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Hi Richard,
Great to hear from you again sir
Your habits obviously rubbed off, on me
.... I'm always on the lookout for bits of scrap metal on the pavement these days

I well recall at Taunton, every time you saw a piece of interesting looking tiny bits of scrap
you bent down & snatched it up quicker than I would have done if it were a pound coin! ;)
 

See you @ market Harborough

Marc


 

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Hi Scott,

 

I did my usual re ballast
i.e. I use N gauge fine woodland scenics

I keep the OO sized ballast for O gauge
To my eye, this method seems to work well
as I find most ballast is a tad overscale.....

The ballast is deliberately a bit "thin" in areas of Cahmores yard though....
There's quite a lot of general "muck" in there too....
I've used a mixture of PVA, DAS and black powder paint / weathering powders.....
 

I'm fairly pleased with this effect

I've painted it, using acrylics, but quite a lot of decorators match pots - mainly grey-ish colours

 

Chris Nevard uses decorators match pots quite a lot

and I have to say, I'm pleased with the effects you can get
Also, if you make sure your previous coats of paint are dry,
you can blend the colours quite nicely.....
.... I used my fingers to rub much of the top coat off, and soften any edges.....

Cheers again

 

Marc

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Cue more ramblings . . . . .

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Other BR (SR) items of interest that made a one-way trip to Cashmores, Newport included:-

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The last steam locos I recall leaving the SR for Cashmores, Newport were probably 34034, 34102 & 35023 which left Salisbury on 30/03/1968.

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Cl.70 - 20002 left Brighton for Newport on 21/07/1969, followed by 20001 on 08/08/1969. (20003 was bought by Cohen's of Cransley,Kettering)

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Ex-SR - 15203 which left Norwood Jct. for Cashmores 14/04/1966.

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Cl.12 - 15226 & 15233 which left Eastleigh on 19/11/1969.

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Departmental No.52 also arrived at Cashmores, by rail on a low loader, from Woking after being moved south (IIRC from West Hartlepool) for PW work in connection with the Bournemouth electrification - but, spotter gossip at the time suggested the buffer beams fouled the new third rail.

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Brian R

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I've found some of the tester pots are good for track weathering etc - assuming you use the correct shades!

Hi Richard,

I haven't tried the match pots for track weathering...

Are they hard wearing enough? and do they need some form of keying, or primer?

I've used them on landscaping and buildings mainly

 

Also, folks, don't forget Cashmores will be at the Newport show

this weekend, 1st and 2nd June, in the old Odeon cinema

 

It's a fascinating place to visit, with all the old projectors, film posters and memorabilia

It also houses a lot of railwayana too

But there will also be a slide show during the exhibition :)

 

Cheers again

Marc

 

 

 

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Hi Richard,

I haven't tried the match pots for track weathering...

Are they hard wearing enough? and do they need some form of keying, or primer?

I've used them on landscaping and buildings mainly

 

Also, folks, don't forget Cashmores will be at the Newport show

this weekend, 1st and 2nd June, in the old Odeon cinema

 

It's a fascinating place to visit, with all the old projectors, film posters and memorabilia

It also houses a lot of railwayana too

But there will also be a slide show during the exhibition :)

 

Cheers again

Marc

 

 

 

 

I've had no problems using the match pots - being water based, I've just mixed them to create varying shades.

Also, I've tended to thin the paint with water and wash over the ballast.

I also mixed with acrylic gloss medium to create 'wet / oily' areas.

 

Hope the show goes ok.

Unfortunately can't get there this weekend - off to Exeter show instead.

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Thanks Dave,

It was quite busy, especially on the Saturday....
I like this show, it's new, it's in a very different venue, and with all the railwayana on the upstairs gallery
It's a nice setting and feel to the show

Their numbers were up, on last years' figures, and I hope it will grow
and evolve into something even better
The only trouble I had, was that there were a few "niggles" with the layout;
floor levels and couplings mainly - and the organisers had left me in charge of a couple of tables of 2nd hand books

This left me unable to chat to either set of punters successfully
so appologies if I seemed a tad distracted...
Gladly, they took the books away later
and left me to ramble, bluff & waffle ;)

A huge thanks to a couple of gents who gave me some really useful info on Cashmores
especially the chap who worked there for 20 odd years!

 

Edit; I'm really pleased with the wooden fence at the back
And I must now add the metal supports / strengthening barackets
which I will probably bend up, from square-section fine brass rod.....

 

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Hi Marc,

 

Glad you had a good show and Cashmores was well received. ;)

 

This latest set of photos really set the scene.  The Class 22 reflected in the puddle is very atmospheric.

 

Great stuff ans keep the photos coming.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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It was quite busy, especially on the Saturday....

..................................and the organisers had left me in charge of a couple of tables of 2nd hand books

 

Gladly, they took the books away later

 

 

 

Yes, the organisers put them next to us and Castle Works.

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But att least I got an old Bradford Barton album "Western Region Diesel Hydraulics" for  the £2.50 I proferred ........ less than the cost of a magazine, and some nice shots I haven't seen before.

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Marc, are you interested in a sketch of the 'tool' I knocked up to make baled scrap ?

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Brian R

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Yes, the organisers put them next to us and Castle Works.

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But att least I got an old Bradford Barton album "Western Region Diesel Hydraulics" for  the £2.50 I proferred ........ less than the cost of a magazine, and some nice shots I haven't seen before.

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Marc, are you interested in a sketch of the 'tool' I knocked up to make baled scrap ?

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Brian R

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Yes, I spotted the fact that they moved the books to your corner....

I envied Paul's roundy-roundy layout

It meant he could sit & have a read,

while the rest of us were pi****g about with couplings & shunting manoeuvres ;)

 

I was annoyed with myself re the books,

because I missed some real crackers, which went for a song!

 

Anyhow, if it's not too much trouble

I'd like to see that tool for making baled scrap

Of course, we really should be doing a regional pub-nite

so you could bring it along.....

Or are you at Brain T's forthcoming slide show?

 

Anyway, great to see you sir

 

Glad you made it to the show

 

Cheers again :)

 

 

 

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Looking great Marc!

 

Are you taking this to Minehead in August?

 

I will also drop you a pm later.

Thanks Mudmagnet,

 

Yes, I am taking it to Minehead in August

If Dave forgives me for being so late with the booking form ;)

 

Marc

 

 

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Hi Marc

 

Cohens of Kettering had piles of wagons stacked alongside the sidings, have photos of piles of 16 tonne mineral wagons. Also they dealt with hundreds of vans, must explain why every farmers field in Northamptonshire has a van body in it.

 

Slightly off topic, worked with a ex Wellingborough fireman who remembers working a train of ex works 16 tonne coal wagons direct from repairs at Wigston wagon shop straight to Cohens for scrap. They had been condemned during maintanance and sold for scrap, Cohens would sell brand new buffers and bearings back to BR ! He also told me about delivering a rake of parcel vans into the yard for scrap, whilst they made a cup of tea the workers opened the doors to set them on fire to burn of the wooden bodies only to discover they were full of mail sacks !

 

Keep up the good work,

 

Richard

i grew up minutes away from Cohens scrap yard, but by then it only had cars in, my first car ended up there before it shut and became an un used tarmac trading estate.

 

Great Layout Marc, excellent detail

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So did I ess1uk. Being a Broughton boy I used to cross the bridge on the school bus to and from Kettering every day in the 70's. I can remember the clouds of clag the old yard shunter used to kick out first thing. I think Cohens lads used to get it started and then get a cuppa while it 'warmed up'!

 

Disgusting of Market Harborough

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Just a couple of quick shots, taken with my tablet last night...
I've mentioned before that I found a couple of old tenders
which were from Airfix kits I built as a teenager - a few years ago now ;)

 

Anyhow, the 1st thing I had to do with these, was to cut out the moulded coal load
An example of this is on the left hand side of the 2 photos...

 

Sadly, a couple of these tenders need more work in getting them to run reliably
- I suspect a couple of new chasis need to be built
A couple of the others seem to run fine though

 

The tender on the right is one I bought secondhand, quite cheaply

and in my hast to get it running for the Newport show

I opted to save time, and not cut the coal out...
Instead I simply painted the coal black, drybrushed it with metallic paint
and topped up the load with odds & ends of scrap

It just occurred to me that this was something a little different -

an old tender, full of rubbish, effectively being a temporary scrap wagon
I have no idea whether this happened at either of Cashmore's sites

but I do recall seeing a couple of old oil drums and other rusty metallic debris
in a tender, while clambering over the locos at Barry
 

I faded the green paintwork, added some rust & streaks
and am quite pleased with what only took a very short time

Anyhow, enough rambling....


 

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As Per Brian, br2975's suggestions
The class 04 has been repainted, albeit not 100% finished yet
Perhaps it needs to be a slightly darker shade of blue?

 

It needs a bit of "tweaking" - mainly the pickups, which seem to short in 1 or 2 spots on the layout...

 

Thanks to Brian Tucker for posting a link to his photo of D2244

Amazing to think he snapped it, just across the way from Cashmores

In this condition! - i.e. no number or emblem / logo

 

Thanks indeed to the 2 Brians :)

 

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Thanks Daniel,

 

Here's another shot, this time I thought it might look good in B&W..

The only 2 figures on the layout.... so far

Stood in front of "Octopus Bridge"

 

I had wondered why there was a girder bridge at the site,

and why it had apparently been "filled in"

 

At the recent Newport show, a former worker at Cashmores told me;

The amusingly named Octopus Bridge was so called because from an aerial perspective,
there were 3 roads, 1 walkway and several railway tracks branching out from the top of the bridge

 

The bridge and the arches were filled in with brick

and several of them, including the bridge had metal doors installed

These areas, effectively under the road, were used for storage of higher value scrap metals,
such as brass & copper...

 

"I didn't know that" - I told the former Cashmores employee

"No, no-one did! - we didn't want anyone knowing that" was his reply

 

I now know I need a doorway in that wall, and one or 2 of the arches

From what few photos I've seen, the arches with doorways were mainly to the left of this scene

I'd better get me scalpel or dremmel out!

 

Don't forget, Cashmores is appearing tomorrow at the Lord & Butler show,
in the old pumping station antiques centre, for their charity weekend

Appologies, but I can't make both days

I'll just be there on the Saturday...

 

 

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Hi Marc,

 

It was good to see you and some of the gang yesterday. I went back today for another look at the show before going to my parent's for Fathers Day. Cashmores is looking good, I think you have captured the look of a working scrap yard very well and it was nice to see some old 16t minerals being banged about in the yard as well, I'll be following this with interest.

 

Well I wont ramble on, just thought I'd say a few words.

 

PS: I'll be in touch about the pictures being taken if you still dont mind doing it?

 

 

Cheers,

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Hi Marc,

 

It was good to see you and some of the gang yesterday. I went back today for another look at the show before going to my parent's for Fathers Day. Cashmores is looking good, I think you have captured the look of a working scrap yard very well and it was nice to see some old 16t minerals being banged about in the yard as well, I'll be following this with interest.

 

PS: I'll be in touch about the pictures being taken if you still dont mind doing it?

 

 

Cheers,

 

Hi Wayne,

 

Yes, nice to see you & have a chat at the L&B show on Saturday too

Of course, no problems re those photos you want taking - you're more than welcome

 

Re the minerals, it's another curiosity of my questionable personality ;)

I like beaten up, rusty old wagons too.... oh dear!

 

Here are a couple of said vehicles, loaded with all manner of metal rubbish

and looking as if they won't be making the return journey from whence they came!

 

 

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Marc.

What a great little layout you have produced.

It Oozes realistic claggy atmosphere and is simple.

I like the use of the puddles as mirrors.

Love the bashed about wagons, so typical of the era.

Keep up the good work.

Andy.
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