40044 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 With Dave's kind permission, I'll make a start on uploading some of mine from the docks. A new 60022 at Gladstone Dock, now the site of LBT, while being tested for the Fidlers Ferry trains which the 60s soon took over. 60022, Gladstone Dock, 7th November 1990. by Stuart's-Phots, on Flickr One of Merlin Stevedores Cat 980s has already made a start on loading the train [/url] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 15, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2013 Excellent stuff Stu - keep them coming ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2013 With Dave's kind permission, I'll make a start on uploading some of mine from the docks. A new 60022 at Gladstone Dock, now the site of LBT, while being tested for the Fidlers Ferry trains which the 60s soon took over. 60022, Gladstone Dock, 7th November 1990. by Stuart's-Phots, on Flickr One of Merlin Stevedores Cat 980s has already made a start on loading the train [/url] A top notch example there of the way not to bucket load wagons - excellent pic that should be shown to all bucket loader operators. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroken1 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Good photos chaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 The class 60 is on original Mersey docks and Harbour board trackwork there. laid in cobbles. wouldnt like to guess how old it is there, notice how close the loco is to the wagons. its been replaced now in this area but there is still a lot of it unused around the dock estate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroken1 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 The class 60 is on original Mersey docks and Harbour board trackwork there. laid in cobbles. wouldnt like to guess how old it is there, notice how close the loco is to the wagons. its been replaced now in this area but there is still a lot of it unused around the dock estate. Yes i agree with you.stil track in most places left behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 More nice old photos!! keep them coming guys... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroken1 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Anymore pictures guys?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 22, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2014 Anymore pictures guys?? Yes - I must get around to posting some more ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMartin90125 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Be good if things the other side of the river in Birkenhead could be brought back into use, lines are still there. All those containers coming in by ship, how many of those could be put more-or-less straight on a train instead of earch container needing it's own lorry. Insn't the Stone Manganeese building empty nowadays, could be used for a loading terminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 One of mine from earlier this year: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2014 been in there a few times, with that loco too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Was talk at one point,about Network rail re-opening the Canning street north dock line,when EWS were stil operating... Few years back now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMartin90125 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Was talk at one point,about Network rail re-opening the Canning street north dock line,when EWS were stil operating... Few years back now... It was on that line where I saw my first ever real train, an 03 with some wagons - in those days, I never considered the 503s as real trains, was only a kid though! Are the lines part of the Mersey docks or the national network, I wonder? Would have loved to have been just a little bit older, to be able to see those fab L&Y Pugs go around the streets on the way to the docks in the 'pool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 It was on that line where I saw my first ever real train, an 03 with some wagons - in those days, I never considered the 503s as real trains, was only a kid though! Are the lines part of the Mersey docks or the national network, I wonder? Would have loved to have been just a little bit older, to be able to see those fab L&Y Pugs go around the streets on the way to the docks in the 'pool. The NR/MD&HC boundary seems to be to be at the Vittoria Dock end of Canning St sidings at one end; the junction at the other end is just to the dock side of Birkenhead North EMU depot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMartin90125 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Where the signal box was, am I right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 25, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 25, 2014 Where the signal box was, am I right? Yes, there used to be a boundary marker there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMartin90125 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Haven't read it for ages but one of the excellent (and now late) TB Maund books I think had something about the lines around there and the companies could not agree to some terms over running over some of the lines hence extra trackwork going in? Used to go cycling around there when I was a lot younger, before all the big old warehouses came down. So sad to see so little there now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 A top notch example there of the way not to bucket load wagons - excellent pic that should be shown to all bucket loader operators. How so? Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerhaul 70 Pey Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Just come across this thread tonight when I did a search for Fiddlers Ferry Power Station. Some really good photos of a place that I am quite familiar with. I've seen EWS/DB Schenker, Fastline, Freightliner and GBRF class 66's, EWS/DB Schenker class 60's and Colas and Freightliner class 70's down there on various trains in the last 7 years. When I go on the docks I usually look whats due on RTT and grab some sneeky photos. Oh, also seen GBRF 59003 recently. In 7 years I have never seen a scrap train as these used to run during the night/early morning. Just used to see the wagons in the sidings at European Metal Recycling. After a period of domination by EWS/DB Schenker, GBRF trains are now the most common site on biomass from Liverpool Bulk Terminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrobuscp Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Remnants of the Liverpool Overhead Railway - still intact the best part of 50 years after closure. DAS41566.JPG I've just come across this thread, and I note the query about the location of this bricked up gate. I'm not certain of the location of this gate but, the confusion as to which gate it is may be caused because there was a gate, very similar to the one illustrated, which was on the West Side of the Dock Road(Regent Road at that point?) on the East Side of North Mersey Yard, at the bottom of the slope down from the Seaforth Sands bridge and the Overhead Railway. I think this is the gate Michael was thinking of, however, it is not that gate because a few yards to the right(facing the wall) of it was another gate providing a rail connection across the road to the Langton Dock goods yard. These two gates were more or less on the opposite side of the North Mersey Yard to an Overhead Railway station from where my grandfather took me to see the Empress of Canada on it's side in the dock after it had turned on its side as a result of the methods used to fight a fire on board. I was brought up in the area and knew most of the old yards very well although some facts(precise names) I would now have to check - it was over 50 years ago. My grandfather used to spend Saturday mornings with us and often took me down to view and go around the docks. I remember the grain silos at the bottom of Strand Road, and frequently visited Alexandra Dock Goods Station in the early evening when there would be a number of outgoing freights to Edge Hill, and also spent time at North Mersey - mainly Mickey Mouse 2-6-0s, and Langton Dock which often saw WD 2-8-0s. I hope this is of interest. Edited for clarity - I hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 A few years I was at Seaforth Container Terminal and was surprised to hear that it was possible to get the train from there all the way to Italy. Does anybody know if this is still possible?Not at present; the through workings stopped at around the time of the first 'stow-away' crisis in 2002. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Not at present; the through workings stopped at around the time of the first 'stow-away' crisis in 2002. Possible - yes. Has it happened - yes. Is it likely to happen again in the near future - no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 66749, Gladstone Dock, 22/11/15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2015 cant believe ive not added any of my pics to this thread! back in fastline days we used to go down there for coal for ratcliffe and ironbridge, but we had to learn it first, so we took this... then we took a 56, this is in wapping sidings, the far end of wapping tunnel then the service trains started, at the stop board waiting to get into the docks running round another fastline train arriving, love the fact the lampost is wonky but the attached the sign is straight got more if anyone is interested, including cab pics from a run along the bootle branch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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