RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted April 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2021 Wow, amazing progress Steve! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2021 Hi Steve, I've used Brian's square posts but how do you fix then to the metal base? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted April 20, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Rowsley17D said: Hi Steve, I've used Brian's square posts but how do you fix then to the metal base? Thanks Hi Jonathan, I'm not sure what "Brian's" square posts are? Did you mean "Les's" - i.e. what I am using? My method is to make a socket out of brass into which the bottom of the post is a good fit. This brass socket is turned up to also support the Guide Tubes for the operating wires and has a shoulder or flange to allow it to be fixed immediately below the baseplate. This ensures that everything is square and vertical. The 3D printed post is turned at the bottom to make a spigot which closely fits the Socket. I use Super Glue to finally fix the post in place. This photo shows the Brass Socket soldered into the baseplate. The Guide Tube (1/16in Brass tube) can be seen adjacent to it. I hope this answers your question. Steve. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2021 14 hours ago, Steve Hewitt said: Hi Jonathan, I'm not sure what "Brian's" square posts are? Did you mean "Les's" - i.e. what I am using? My method is to make a socket out of brass into which the bottom of the post is a good fit. This brass socket is turned up to also support the Guide Tubes for the operating wires and has a shoulder or flange to allow it to be fixed immediately below the baseplate. This ensures that everything is square and vertical. The 3D printed post is turned at the bottom to make a spigot which closely fits the Socket. I use Super Glue to finally fix the post in place. This photo shows the Brass Socket soldered into the baseplate. The Guide Tube (1/16in Brass tube) can be seen adjacent to it. I hope this answers your question. Steve. Thanks, Steve. I meant Les, I don't know where Brian came from. Brain in a bit of fog since an op last week is my excuse. I never thought about turning a spigot but I would have to use a drill as I haven't a lathe but it would give the glue more surface to grip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Steve Hewitt Posted April 21, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2021 On 19/04/2021 at 21:50, Steve Hewitt said: Just one Westinghouse Ground Disc to add before cleaning, painting and adding the moving parts.......... Or 'a little something on the side'................... The Westinghouse ground signal was very widely used on the SR/BR(S). Its "semi-circular" disc making it quite distinctive. The model I am building here is based on a Les Green 3D printed signal body and foundations with the moving parts from a MSE/Wizard kit. The reason for the 3D print rather than the assembled etch provided in the kit is avoiding a quite fiddly soldering job and the built in features I have standardised on for lights and signal installation. Here is the basic 3D print: View looking onto the front face. The large boss under the base fits into a 5/16th in Brass Tube to form the foundations. Looking at the L.H side, the pivot for the weight bar can be seen. This view shows the hole through the base of the signal which will locate the Guide Tube for the operating wire. The 1/16in Brass guide tube is a push fit in the base. The optical fibre is routed up through the base and then through the signal body. The hole through the body is printed on a curve to facilitate alignment with the spectacles on the Disc. The weight bar is assembled from etched components in the kit. The operating wire - 0.31mm N/S - is formed to move the weight bar and locate in the Disc. The hole for the operating wire is seen just below and to the right of the Disc's axle. The wire passes thru' the weight bar en-route to the disc. Here the weight bar has been mounted on its axle - a 0.45mm dia lace pin glued into its printed bearing. The operating wire is waiting for the disc to be fitted. This shot also shows quite well how the optical fibre is routed. The Disc has now been added, with its axle in its printed bearing and operating wire through its hole in the disc. Here's the Foudation Tube which will locate the signal in the baseboard and also align the servo motor when it is fitted. The foundation tube fits its printed boss very well and is secured with a drop of Sper-Glue. To prevent any buckling of the operating wire it is sleeved with 1/32in brass tube which is a sliding fit in the guide tube. The small hole in the lower end of the tube is to make soldering easier. The tube in place. Trying it out by hand. STOP! CLEAR! This shows the routing of the various components as they pass up through the signal. The Back Blinder is still on the etch and will be fitted after apinting and final assembly. Once secured on the Disc's axle the Blinder will prevent everything coming apart. Now to take it all apart for cleaning and painting....... Steve. p.s. A few more shots which might make some of the features a bit clearer. 9 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Roger Sunderland Posted April 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2021 Beautiful work as always Steve. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 22, 2021 Having made working models of MSE's Midland ground signals but shied away from getting the weight bar working, I am much in admiration. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Steve Hewitt Posted May 5, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2021 Painted and re-assembled............... Less than half an inch total height! Clear to go. Here's a little video: 14 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted May 22, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2021 And finally ??................. Tony has requested an additional signal for Churminster & Stowe Magna. This is a Rail Built Bracket with the two Starters for the little terminus at the Aerodrome. And finally a little video: I now have a total of some 16 signals ready for delivery. They vary in size from Ground discs to a bracket with four arms. Original plans for delivery and installation of the Churminster signals got put back by the first Covid Lockdown. Let's hope the relaxation of restrictions allow our current plan to proceed in a few week's time. Steve. 8 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted May 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2021 Lovely delicate work as usual, Steve. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted May 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2021 Great work Steve! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Tony Teague said: Great work Steve! You're biased!!! Mike. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted May 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: You're biased!!! Mike. I certainly am! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Steve Hewitt Posted June 25, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2021 A Cantilevered bracket for Acton Wells....... This model is located in a very tight part of the railway and consequently requires a large overhang from the main post. This would normally have been a balanced bracket, but sighting requirements demanded this design. The model follows my usual methods, with the main post being 4mm square brass tube, the bracket is a modified MSE etch, the dolls are 3D prints from Les Green's shop on Shapeways. The operating wires are routed up the R.H. side of the main post to three cranks mounted between the trimmers. Each of these cranks is conneted to one weight bar: The main doll, which also carries a fixed distant arm. The second doll with a single arm: The third doll has a short arm to a goods siding: Each of the arms in turn showing their "Clear" position: I have a few shaky video clips which I'll try to edit together and put on YouTube...... Steve. 10 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2021 Very nice Steve. Was the prototype guyed to a retaining wall or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted June 26, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2021 9 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Very nice Steve. Was the prototype guyed to a retaining wall or something? Thanks. The design is "free-lance" as the layout is based on a ficticious location. If it was a real design I'm sure significant Guying would have been necessary, most certainly opposite the bracket. The layout owner may well add another "tie bar" when he installs the signal, but I don't know the precise details of the site. Steve. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 26, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2021 There were 3 doll brackets rather like that which weren't stayed or supported by guy wires but whether they lasted their life without such support being added is arather different matter 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted June 27, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2021 18 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: There were 3 doll brackets rather like that which weren't stayed or supported by guy wires but whether they lasted their life without such support being added is arather different matter Thanks Mike, Very helpful as always. Steve. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted July 1, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2021 The video at last....... Appolgies for the quality - I shot it all hand held on my phone. Steve. 8 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 25/06/2021 at 21:30, Steve Hewitt said: A Cantilevered bracket for Acton Wells....... This model is located in a very tight part of the railway and consequently requires a large overhang from the main post. This would normally have been a balanced bracket, but sighting requirements demanded this design. The model follows my usual methods, with the main post being 4mm square brass tube, the bracket is a modified MSE etch, the dolls are 3D prints from Les Green's shop on Shapeways. The operating wires are routed up the R.H. side of the main post to three cranks mounted between the trimmers. Each of these cranks is conneted to one weight bar: The main doll, which also carries a fixed distant arm. The second doll with a single arm: The third doll has a short arm to a goods siding: Each of the arms in turn showing their "Clear" position: I have a few shaky video clips which I'll try to edit together and put on YouTube...... Steve. That's superb Steve. I have to remind myself sometimes how small these 4mm scale signals are in real life! JF 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted July 2, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2021 On 01/07/2021 at 21:32, Jon Fitness said: That's superb Steve. I have to remind myself sometimes how small these 4mm scale signals are in real life! JF Thanks Jon, Your 7mm models continue to inspire me. The new etches you are creating are exquisite, just too large! Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium tingleytim Posted July 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 8, 2021 Can anyone help please with parts for some signals on my “Templecombe Lower”? Richard Dunning has built very fine model signals using parts from MSE and Alan Gibson, some of which show in the attached pictures. Still to be modelled are those shown in: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/517280707194092351/ Trouble is that kits from AG needed for these 2 pairs of junction signals are not being produced – priorities being elsewhere it seems. The kit numbers are 4MM84 and 4MM90 (both listed at £20 in the AG online catalogue). I’m also short of a LSWR bracket - 4MM66 (£3.30). Has anyone by chance got – or would know where to get – unwanted purchases of these kits? I would of course refund the list price and any other expenses. The extras to get the signals operating are already in place. I’ve connected those already built using MSE’s “Retford” mounts (so can be easily removed for transportation). GF Controls operate them and they are programmed into route setting using Big Bear software. All this is also ready for the junction signals in readiness for the kits being located. The junction signals really are crucial to many key movements and are a frustrating omission when so much else is complete. Many thanks in anticipation. Tim. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Freeman Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 hours ago, tingleytim said: Can anyone help please with parts for some signals on my “Templecombe Lower”? Richard Dunning has built very fine model signals using parts from MSE and Alan Gibson, some of which show in the attached pictures. Still to be modelled are those shown in: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/517280707194092351/ Trouble is that kits from AG needed for these 2 pairs of junction signals are not being produced – priorities being elsewhere it seems. The kit numbers are 4MM84 and 4MM90 (both listed at £20 in the AG online catalogue). I’m also short of a LSWR bracket - 4MM66 (£3.30). Has anyone by chance got – or would know where to get – unwanted purchases of these kits? I would of course refund the list price and any other expenses. The extras to get the signals operating are already in place. I’ve connected those already built using MSE’s “Retford” mounts (so can be easily removed for transportation). GF Controls operate them and they are programmed into route setting using Big Bear software. All this is also ready for the junction signals in readiness for the kits being located. The junction signals really are crucial to many key movements and are a frustrating omission when so much else is complete. Many thanks in anticipation. Tim. Stunning model, I can't help with the kits though I do have a spare 4MM66. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Steve Hewitt Posted July 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) Hello Tim, I can help with the following: 4MM66 x 1 9ft brit. 4MM63 x 2 27ft lattice post. 4MM64 x 3 23ft lattice post. 4MM62 x 1 36ft lattice post. 4MM84 x 1 SR brkt kit. MSE do a taller lattice post at about 45ft as well as most of the parts you will need for that tall bracket signal in the photo. If you want to buy any of the above please get I touch by a personal message. Steve . Edited July 8, 2021 by Steve Hewitt Spelling error Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) I was fiddling about outside earlier when I thought of your lovely smooth operating semaphores. Solenoid operation is a bit quick… Slow mo first then real time https://www.flickr.com/photos/32297024@N08/51298536313/in/photostream Edited July 8, 2021 by LNERGE 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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