john flann Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Nick, very fair comment and thank you: as you said you know me well enough that all those matters will be attended to, the back of the signal box will be finished off to match and a coal bin will be added to stand with the lamp shed; behind the water tower will be a rough area along with bushes and a tree, all to obscure the back scene and add a bit of mystery, whilst the hut will be painted black as it is the enginemen's bothy. I prefer the back view of the signal box, I think it more in the correct location too. The signalman also has a better view of the running lines etc from there and it is more convenient for access from the station itself. The building at the front will be a warehouse/store for some use or other (not decided yet) and behind will be its yard. That will be open and not cluttered so as to leave, and not distract from, the clear a view of the line that I wanted. That's why the new building (actually it's from Hintock Diaries so a new build is required) is rather plain yet dignified and interesting. Any other comments welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Nick, after my last post I returned to my leaf blowing activities in the garden (it's a beautiful crisp sunny day, though snow is forecast for later in the week) and I was thinking more about that building in the front. Now after lunch I have decided that that building return to Hintock Dairies and a new of the same general dimensions take its place. I too have decided it shall be a cooperage and in the yard be casks and barrels as well as other small items. These will not detract rather they will embellish and add to the concept. I have yet to find a name. Thanks for making me think a little more about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 In light of current events at Hintock a look back at several aspects might be of interest. The water tower in its last position. Ayling and Strudwick's building sat on a lift off sub-baseboard that obscured the main baseboard joint. As did the signal box. (And a view of the front for Nick.) These arrangements will be maintained in the new build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberdare Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Hi John Looking forward to seeing the completed changes. I don't actually feel comfortable making any negative comment but as a personal choice I prefer the water tower in its original position, as for the others I think they are fine as it does open up the view and improve the setting. It's just that in my mind the tower in its new position then dominates the cottages, though how too fill the gap is another issue, it's a bit difficult to tell as being in front of the layout and getting an overall view is different to seeing the separate views. Like Nick in his earlier post there is no offence intended, just a personal view on things from what I've seen and like. All the best Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 Fair comment Jim, none taken nor likely. Constructive ones are always welcome. I accept the tower is a little dominant but I suggest there is a need for a striking feature between Dairy Cottages and the Crown Prince Brewery as otherwise they tend to run one into the other. In the broader scheme of things that does not now occur. The photos have rather exaggerated the tower but later and better ones will illustrate how it fits in. There is also the point that locos can now take water whilst running around and not need make a special movement to do so. As to dealing with the back scene I shall use the same techniques as I did with the signal box (as above) and they seem to work nicely. One other thing, that I have not yet quite worked out in my mind, is the reason why there is that gap between the cottages and the brewery is because a culverted stream runs under the railway and that provides the a source of water for the tower. This stream I could use as scenic feature for the front area-and that does rather appeal to me. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 This old 'Dean' set is allocated to Hintock and restricted to running between there and the Junction. It forms the first outward train and is used by quarrymen employed at the Little Hintock quarries and workmen along the branch, it also offers a connection onward to Dorchester. It is used too by boys attending Dorchester Grammar School. On its return journey it brings children to school in Hintock. In the afternoon it takes the schoolchildren back and after laying over at the Junction, returning brings the workmen home. It is also employed on Hintock market days. These coaches are original Triang that I converted to a corridor set way back in the 1960's. In the current use i changed the bogies to Bachmann, blanked off the gangway ends and connected them by a drawbar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 In the 1960's the modeller did not have the variety of choice offered today by Bachmann and the like, so when Triang introduced their compartment clerestory coaches it was a great step forward (they are still in demand today and command high prices on e-bay). But with a little imagination and some ingenuity it was possible to turn them into 'Dean' corridor stock and that was what I did. (The fellow flat on his face had not been noticed by the platform staff when the photographer took the photo. That was soon taken care of however.) As they were replaced by Collett main line stock they were downgraded and some as seen at Hintock in the previous post, were dispatched from Swindon painted overall brown and adapted for use in workmens trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 Looking for another image I found this one. It's one of my favourites and now has added interest as this scene is no more with the signal box having been moved. But I/m convinced that the water tower, now in this position, will serve equally well. More on those development soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 A little more progress has been made in installing the water tower and other work remains to be done, as follows:- Above and below, from the East, And above and below from the West, These are working shots only, and using the cameras a tool to enable me to see how things are looking and to find faults in finished work that need be rectified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 An interesting set of photos. The ground disc in the first and second photos really needs to be moved about 6" to the right (along the siding) so that a loco of vehicle in the siding standing at it wouldn't get hit by a train passing on the main line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Quite right Keith, thank you, I missed that ( something I shouldn't have done) and shall attend to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 More work in progress; the water tower is settling in, bodgering is going on at the back of the signal box, the station yard squared off with the new building at right, the sub lift off baseboard lowered by about 1", an extension to A&S in course of construction and A&S itself turned through 90 degrees and being re-furbished. A closer look, the water tower does not impose and the signal box is still centre stage. All in all, this I consider when complete, will be an improvement over what went before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberdare Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Hi John It looks as if the planned alterations are coming together nicely, I think the biggest difference is the moving of the A&S building, with the smaller extension it has left the view much more open. The new position of the water tower has grown on me a bit now too. Good to see that even complete layouts can still evolve, one last question, are you still intending to include the stream or not. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Gentlemen, the 'likes' are much appreciated. Jim, if you could see the layout as a whole, and you'd be welcome but its rather a long way to come, I think you'd find the water tower is now very much part of this scene, Give it time, you'll come to like it. I did spend time trying to create a water element and cut a chunk out of the baseboard to accommodate it, putting a bottom in and building a bridge and abutments but it just didn't look right. Too much open space. Hintock is after all a thriving market town and not a remote country village served by a BLT so land around the station is valuable for commercial uses. Thus it was that A&S commenced business and built their original woolen mill in the late 1800's when the branch was constructed. The turning point here (pun intended) came when I realized that by turning their mill through 90 degrees and lowering it a view blocker was nicely created, as was an interesting new scene incorporating the extension, tidying up the station yard and the newly positioned water tower and signal box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 In the last few posts the signal box at Hintock has featured and these shots might be of interest. It is basically a Ratio kit 503, the platform /ground box that I 'improved'. I built it on a sub-baseboard because it helped obscure a baseboard joint and that arrangement will continue in its new site opposite. I do not intend to spell out what I did as that should be apparent. [ I didn't get around to the fiddly job of adding its name, and as it's not now visible in the new position in that state it shall remain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bedding Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Hello John As one who is attempting a similar concept, albeit Southern and just "over the hill", I am always in complete awe of your layout, modelling and photographs. True inspiration PB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 Generous words Peter; glad you like it and has given some inspiration. The kit and subject matter does rather lend itself to 'improvement' and this turned out well. As does the box look in its new situation, if anything I think it looks better. This is the only 'kit' structure on Hintock, virtually everything else is scratch built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 A further report of work in progress, this time looking from the east. The signal box and water tower complement each other nicely and A&S ceases to impose itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2012 The Water Tower does look good in its setting but I do like to see the front of a signal cabin. Yes it does show the lack of movement in the box but I just prefer it. Mind you the modelling is good its just choice. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 Quite right Don, it is a personal choice, and, it does save me the tricky job of adding the box's name! It's taken a while to get this composition right; the turning point was removing the tree that opened up a clear line of sight toward the box, then came placing the small goods shed next the siding and slightly widening the sub baseboard on which A&S sits and thus setting it further back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 There is not a great deal new here but the A&S sub baseboard has been tidied up, secured by a 3" bolt and butterfly nut and undercoat added to the buildings. I was also able to set the A&S building further forward and opening up more the view behind it. Next task is to get the signal box settled in and then A&S itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 The original and rather uninspiring end of the line at 'Hintock' More of the same. So, I thought, why not extend the line to Port Bredy? Simple enough to do. That's a big improvement and all it needs is finishing off (the results after another photographic session.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Browsing 'My Pictures' I came across these and in no particular order they illustrate how Hintock has developed and so might be of interest. The foundations-all straightforward and easy enough to do.. It's a lot more convenient to have baseboards of a convenient size than otherwise. And to get the back scene in first. The corners were eventually coved. . And following up recent postings these are of what was there before. Rather a tunnel like affect. What remains and what has been changed around illustrates the benefit from the alterations. Undoubtedly beneficial,. I have more and will see what they show, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john flann Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 More early days. And another. And ther's more to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve22 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I was very taken by this railway when i saw it first in RM. I particularly liked the station platform on an angle to the baseboard frame, rather than parallel, I've always found that feature quite fascinating and the way It also stops the eye running straight up and down the line. At our rather small model railway club I'm always talking about modelling cameos (I talk more than I model!) and seeing each as part of a larger whole. This is exactly what I like here. It's equally fascinating to read the various comments between you and fellow RMWebbers, somewhat akin to the musings of Peter Denny in his articles and books as to why he changed this or that particular feature and how at times he looked back on Buckingham Mk 2 with a fondness but realised that Buckingham Mk 3 was the natural way the railway and city as it became would and should develop. I also very much enjoy the artistic skill (no other word for it) you possess to include so much yet still create a real sense of space. I can quite understand comparisons mentioned here between yourself and John Ahern, Peter Denny and others. Something here too of John Charman and Philip Knife. That modelling skill to create something which contains a great deal within the baseboard limits yet you still somehow give each scene room to 'breathe', if that makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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