markyb208 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Hi All, Does anyone have plans, or know of any for the above crane please? Better still, does anyone know if one has ever been produced? Given the number of these cranes that seem to have been used all over the GWR, it just seems a bit strange no manufacturer (as far as I can tell) has ever produced one. Maybe it's not the right time now given the recession, but would any manufacturer like to consider producing one? Yours in hope, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Mike's Models do a GWR Medium Yard Crane - is this the 6-ton crane? http://www.holtmodel...o.php?code=MM37 There is also the wagon-mounted 6-ton crane from Cambrian. http://cambrianmodels.co.uk/gwwagons.html Adrian Edited August 21, 2012 by Adrian Wintle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Great Western Journal have published a few plans of cranes - you could check them out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Diagrams of the 6-ton yard crane were in the GWRJ Preview Issue (Issue 0). I don't have it handy, so I can't refresh my memory as to the look of the crane (hence the different suggestions above). Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyb208 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 Mike's Models do a GWR Medium Yard Crane - is this the 6-ton crane? http://www.holtmodel...o.php?code=MM37 There is also the wagon-mounted 6-ton crane from Cambrian. http://cambrianmodel...k/gwwagons.html Adrian Thanks for the replies. The Mike's Models crane as far as I can tell is not the 6 ton crane. I'm aware of the Cambrian 6 ton crane and match truck, these were used at locations that didn't have a yard crane of their own. I will get in touch with the GWR Journal people, I know they have published plans for one. Scratchbuilding one is probably the only answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 The most common (I think) variety of crane was very distinctive - it looked like a larger version of the Mikes Models one (the capacity of which looks rather less than 6 tons)s and could be found at Lambourn, Moretonhampstead, Hemyock and Helston amongst others. So far as I'm aware, there are no kits available - I wish there were! However, there were a number of different designs in use, probably purchased from different suppliers than built in house. The Cambrian version could be dismounted and stuck on a brick plinth - I'm sure I've seen an almost identical crane somewhere at a GWR BLT but which one I can't recall! If going down this route, then I suspect the jib might be too short to be very useful i.e. it doesn't look as though it could lift a container on or off a conflat, for instance. My solution was to adapt the Peco yard crane by replacing the jib with a scratchbuilt one - a relatively simple build using Evergreen plastic girders and plastic rod. The result is very similar to the 6 ton example at Tetbury, although the winding mechanisms, gears etc are not identical. When I get the chance, I'll post a pic of it. David C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Just realised that there are couple of shots of my version of a GWR 6 ton crane in "Layout Topics". Just type in "Woodstowe" in Search. David C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Missy did a scratch built one in 2mm http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/220/entry-9038-ally-pally-the-results/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 21/08/2012 at 13:50, markyb208 said: Hi All, Does anyone have plans, or know of any for the above crane please? Better still, does anyone know if one has ever been produced? Given the number of these cranes that seem to have been used all over the GWR, it just seems a bit strange no manufacturer (as far as I can tell) has ever produced one. Maybe it's not the right time now given the recession, but would any manufacturer like to consider producing one? Yours in hope, Mark sorry to invigorate an Old thread as it’s probably a touch useless now but I also struggled to find a source of a decent 6T crane this has been the results of my own 3D printing to produce one 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Very tasty, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Not a bad rendition - compares well with an original. Is the top level? From your angle of picture, it doesn't quite look it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tim V said: Not a bad rendition - compares well with an original. Is the top level? From your angle of picture, it doesn't quite look it. The top section was the hardest to work out the correct angle, I think this is the best shot of it from what I took today. just as I finished it and did this print, someone from the pendon lot sent this to me which I wish I hand I was designing it. I definitely think My design is a little bit too pointed up but as you can see the prototype is not as level as you and certainly I first thought John Edited February 27, 2020 by Johndc120 Correction 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Looks like there's some disparity between the photos and the drawing! I took a series of photos all round of this crane at Bath - it was a rare survivor at this date (1978). 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 It’s a really difficult angle to work out from photos as it’s also going away from you to meet the main pulley block Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 This one is better lit. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philou Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 A question if I may? Am I correct in assuming the jib is at a fixed angle given the solid metalwork between the jib end and the gearing at the base? Cheers, Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 48 minutes ago, Philou said: A question if I may? Am I correct in assuming the jib is at a fixed angle given the solid metalwork between the jib end and the gearing at the base? Cheers, Philip Hi Philip, Yes, pretty standard for a hand crane, they are a fixed angle so they were placed at a set distance from the rails so they could lift objects out of the wagons and then move the load to anywhere on a radius. Usually onto a road vehicle or onto a pile which would later be put shifted. It was manual labour though so double handling was avoided John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 It seems ages since I did my prototype and after a lot of rework particularly on the mechanical workings on the base Can finally say it’s to a standard I’m happy with. Seen below on a friends layout who has fully finished it including hanging the block on the chain. I’m really happy with the way it hangs If anyone is particularly after one then give me a message and I’ll be happy to do one for you john 10 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatts 8 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Hi John Would it be possible to produce one for me. Cheers Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMS Posted August 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2021 Could i join the queue for one please? Thanks Basil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Keane Posted October 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2022 Could anyone with access to drawings of the gwr six ton yard crane pm them to me as I need to build one. thanks andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ullypug Posted October 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2022 Osborne Models do a kit for one if it helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Keane Posted April 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2023 On 25/10/2022 at 21:53, ullypug said: Osborne Models do a kit for one if it helps. Could you post a bit more on your build of the Osborne kit please. What did you think o& it etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ullypug Posted April 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2023 I found the instructions confusing and was not sure I had sufficient parts. They’re laser cut ply which I glued together with cyano. I seemed to end up making extra bits myself. There are scale drawings in Great Western Journal edition 0 (preview) that I used as reference. If you treat the kit as a useful set of scratch aids that gives you about 80% of what you need you won’t be disappointed. With perseverance it’ll make up into a nice model. Hope that helps. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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