Roy L S Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Hi George I wouldn't box the old one up just yet. Unless they have gone by air freight we will still have a 6 plus week wait for them to arrive. Cheers Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Mremag.com Pat Hammond says that the lined BR black versions have left the factory. Time to retire my Minitrix models George Mine retired itself a couple of months ago - contrary to previous reports it was a reasonable puller - romped up my 1 in 44 branch line gradient with 2 Mk1s and a CCT in tow many times... I'll be on the lookout for a new one when they appear in the shops - looks like I'll have to settle for a green one as the black one has an early crest. I also have a Minitrix 2-6-2T and a 9F - the tank is still going strong, and I can just about get a circuit out of the 2-10-0 before having to take it to bits again to correct the quartering of the drivers, as they are prone to jumping out of sync. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I just had a quick look (mere seconds) at the review of the Ivatt in the latest edition of Model Rail in the Supermarket, and the reviewer mentioned chunky valve gear. Who would have thought things like that would have been considered seriously when you look back at some of the generic models (hall/castle/king) we have put up with for years. We N gauge modellers are becoming spoilt. They look stunning models though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I just had a quick look (mere seconds) at the review of the Ivatt in the latest edition of Model Rail in the Supermarket, and the reviewer mentioned chunky valve gear. Who would have thought things like that would have been considered seriously when you look back at some of the generic models (hall/castle/king) we have put up with for years. We N gauge modellers are becoming spoilt. They look stunning models though Just read the RM review. What a little stunner, and from all accounts running qualities to match (as one would expect given the new style loco drive mechanism.is akin to the WD Austerity's). The valve gear will inevitably be a bit overscale to make it robust enough to handle, and I agree, this little loco is absolute light years ahead of the old poole-derived stuff we were putting up with just a few years ago. Roy . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The big question is when do they hit the shops and how many can I justify on my Pre-Nationalisation layout......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 All we need to know now is when they actually hit the shops, and for me how many can I justify on my Pre-Nationalisation layout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom J Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The stakes are high for Farish with this one - mine is a belated birthday present but I fear if it doesn't work out of the box my wife will refuse to buy N gauge locos for the boys of the household ever again! ;-) I agree - they look nice in the RM review pictures. Can't decide whether to have 46521 in SVR/89A guise, or whether to model it as it is today, in plain unlined BR black with early crest - at which it's a question of whether to try and take the lining off a BR black one, or put new emblems on an LMS one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I cant wait to get my hands on one, and I have to admit that the pictures of the BR liveried ones are very tempting, even to a die hard pre-nationalisation chap like me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Does anyone remember the Minitrix version all those years ago? It was a nice looking loco for its time but performance was not too brilliant, main problem was lack of haulage power, which I am sure the New farish one won't suffer from! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLD Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I just had a quick look (mere seconds) at the review of the Ivatt in the latest edition of Model Rail in the Supermarket, and the reviewer mentioned chunky valve gear. Who would have thought things like that would have been considered seriously when you look back at some of the generic models (hall/castle/king) we have put up with for years. We N gauge modellers are becoming spoilt. They look stunning models though Just read the RM review. What a little stunner, and from all accounts running qualities to match (as one would expect given the new style loco drive mechanism.is akin to the WD Austerity's). The valve gear will inevitably be a bit overscale to make it robust enough to handle, and I agree, this little loco is absolute light years ahead of the old poole-derived stuff we were putting up with just a few years ago. Roy Just read the same two reviews in the local supermarket. An interesting contrast which shows the different editorial style of those two magazines. MR tends to set out to pick even minor fault (yet often misses quite significant details or makes silly errors or strange comments) to come up with a "You should/shouldn't buy this" conclusion, whereas RM credits it's readers with a little more inteligence giving a comprehensive but unbiassed set of facts without any hype from which it allows the reader to draw their own conclusion. As to the model itself, from the photos and performance reported in the reviews, it looks a cracker - streets ahead of the old minitrix version (which was a good effort for it's day) and up there with the best N gauge steamers of the present generation. [HM was bagged and BRM is no longer stocked so I can't compare their styles/comments if they indeed have reviews of it...] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas G Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The report of the Model Rail review has got me wondering if when they say the valve gear is "chunky", are they saying that it could be better in a commercial N gauge model such as this (which has to withstand handling and be viable to mass-produce), or is it a comment on the limitations imposed by the small size of N gauge models? Having had a Minitrix Ivatt and a Kato 2-6-4 bought for conversion to British outline, the Farish Ivatt 2MT 2-6-0 looks excellent to me, except perhaps when viewed head-on. The small wheels don't help the appearance compared to their BR Standard 3MT 2-6-2. Douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I took a little time looking at the almost head-on picture in the Railway Modeller- it looked wrong in some respect, and I couldn't figure out why. Then I got it- they'd not straightened the pony truck wheels before taking the picture- at that point the image "self-corrected" and I thought "oh, nice!" At least they took the front coupling off- gave it much more chance of acceptance against a OO model. Shame they couldn't pose it on a section of track. Still; eagerly awaiting mine. With my 4MT running badly (still locking occasionally) the 2MT may have to work duties other than the inspection saloon. All the very best Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I have mine already allocated branch goods and local passenger duties, all we need now is a decent 4-4-0, see we N gauge modellers are never happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephenson Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I have mine already allocated branch goods and local passenger duties, all we need now is a decent 4-4-0, see we N gauge modellers are never happy You have only to look at Colin's at Union Mills, fantastic runners and will almost anything ;-)) Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I think I may have a look at adding a couple to my collection, I have been tempted by the super D for a while now, I guess my shopping list just gets bigger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Just bought one from an ebay seller in Taiwan. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Graham-Farish-N-Scale-Modern-372-626-Ivatt-Class-2MT-2-6-0-46440-BR-Lined-Black-/261273413841?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item3cd51be8d1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted August 29, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2013 Interesting, they are clearly out in the wild then! TINGS release in the UK? Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 is there an advantage to purchasing them outside the country? I have never done this before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 It was a lot cheaper than here and it hasn't even been released yet. Postage was reasonable too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orcadian Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 is there an advantage to purchasing them outside the country? I have never done this before? It would suggest that the very much shorter supply chain has led to someone getting them very quickly. If you can get them almost from the factory gate, so to speak, and then use air mail, it will save a few weeks of waiting for a load in a container to leave the port, cross the oceans, be unloaded, pass through Customs and whatever, get to Barwell and then out to British retailers. Elvinley has also found this route to be cheaper as well as quicker, clearly, but I'm fairly sure he didn't see it running on the shop's test track before he bought it! That's his own choice, and I hope his model arrives safely and in perfect condition! Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I will let you know Richard! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted September 5, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2013 Well, looks like the slow boat has docked! My 2MT has just been processed for delivery. Guess i'll be decoder shopping at Leamington on Saturday now. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted September 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2013 Showing as in stock at some retailers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Looks like the LMS ones have been shipped in first? If so seems like a cunning marketing strategy to tempt sales - this being the livery that will almost certainly sell the least/slowest. Cheers, Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Only problem with the LMS version is that it is unlined. Having just done a pair of lined black repaints in N I'm losing the will to live-- I'll just recrest/renumber my black 2MT once it arrives and I'm happy with it. Some other masochist can do LMS black ones into lined BR......... All the very best Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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