landscapes Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ray Flintoft said: Hi David , The kinked ejector pipe ( the steam pipe along the boiler you mention ) was already fitted to no. 60501 by 1950 so Hornby should really get this right . Another variation is that 60501 had no backing plates to the sandbox filler's during the 1950's unlike the others . I've set my layout in the period 1957-1968 to allow me to model engine's as I remember them best & give some latitude ( Jubilee's with yellow cab side stripes alongside A.2/2's for example) Anyway , some more "Big Thommo's" to look at . Best Wishes , Ray . Hi Ray Some very nice Thompson Pacific’s, do you have your own thread on RMWeb? If you do please tell me where it is, if not please feel free to post more photos of your layout and locomotives here anytime. Thanks for posting them, always nice to see other members models. Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 Hi Just getting away from Haymarket for a moment, on Sunday just gone My Wife and I had a rare day out during these unsettled times and had lunch at a railway related location. Any guesses where? Regards David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) Hi Now back to Haymarket and its locomotives. Today's photos show two visiting Pacific locomotives standing in the Easy Yard awaiting passage to Waverley Station to return home. Regards David Edited September 1, 2020 by landscapes Additional Photo 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bell Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, landscapes said: Hi Just getting away from Haymarket for a moment, on Sunday just gone My Wife and I had a rare day out during these unsettled times and had lunch at a railway related location. Any guesses where? Regards David Looks like Bath Green Park 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, David Bell said: Looks like Bath Green Park Hi David Spot on, still much of the charm of the old station still remaining, it's just a shame about the cars and vans parked there. Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bell Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 It is a beautiful structure. I remember a few years ago they parked a SDJR 2-8-0 under the roof. If you took a picture from a low angle you could almost turn the clock back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, David Bell said: It is a beautiful structure. I remember a few years ago they parked a SDJR 2-8-0 under the roof. If you took a picture from a low angle you could almost turn the clock back! Hi David Yes it is a very impressive building and so much still intact. there is even the two wooden platforms in situ but not sure if they are the original floor boards Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bell Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Your portrayal of Haymarket is very impressive. I have fond memories of it from a later era, 1976 or thereabouts. Even when I was at the rugby at the old Murrayfield I would always have half an eye to what was on shed. Cheers David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 Hi As Ray kindly posted some photo of his exquisite Thompson Pacific's a few days ago I thought I would rekindle the Thompson theme. Two Thompson Pacific's side by side on shed, one a home based locomotive and a visitor from the North East. Regards David 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Flintoft Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 On 31/08/2020 at 17:25, landscapes said: Hi Ray Some very nice Thompson Pacific’s, do you have your own thread on RMWeb? If you do please tell me where it is, if not please feel free to post more photos of your layout and locomotives here anytime. Thanks for posting them, always nice to see other members models. Regards David No , I don't have my own thread , David . The layout has been complete for several years & is in need of some remedial work , Also I don't feel I have enough time to spend on the web ( so many engines to build & so little time to do it in!!) I feel I am very much an average modeller & appreciate your kind comments & generous offer . I will continue to post the odd picture where it fits in with a topic being discussed but don't wish to take over your thread & look forward to work restarting soon on your rendition of 64B . Best Wishes , Ray . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 Good Evening My latest offering was a controversial class of locomotives as far as Haymarket MPD was concerned. The BR Clan Class, four locomotives were temporarily transferred there in 1958 and again in 1959 and by 1960 they were all all gone. According to Harry Knox's first book on the depot they were disliked by the Haymarket crews. This is No 72005 Clan Macgregor one of four of the class to be transferred, I have just finished weathering this model, it has had an LMS lamp fitted and real coal added to the tender plus a new three link screw coupling apart from that its all Hornby. It wasn't easy finding a prototype colour photo of a class member in a reasonably clean state. Regards David 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I seem to recall that the East coast sheds and crews hated them, but the West Coast mob, e.g. Carlisle thought they were brilliant! But then if you're used to the vagaries of firing Stonier designs versus the free steamers of Gresley and Peppercirn you would say that wouldn't you! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 Good Evening Another photo of Clan Class 72005 Clan Macgregor, a slightly different angle and a high level view across the East Yard. Regards David 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bell Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I must say I look forward to your posts. It is like having a shedbash in your living room! Keep up the good work. Cheers David 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, David Bell said: I must say I look forward to your posts. It is like having a shedbash in your living room! Keep up the good work. Cheers David Hi David Thank you for your kind comments, the layout is actually in a spare bedroom. Thats the main reason I have only so far constructed 4 of the 9 baseboards. The whole layout has been plotted in Templot but I need a house move to complete the entire layout which in feet measures 19’-0” x 4’-0”, and that’s no joke we are proposing to move home within the next three to four years and part of our requirements is a model railway room. Thanks again for your reply , more photos to follow soon. Regards David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 Hi Todays photo shows two Gresley Pacific's and two of Thompson's Locomotives. Regards David 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Flintoft Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Hello David , I see you have been asking on Tony's thread about the Thompson class K.1/1 . Most of the differences are quite minor such as the position of the lubricators & the sandbox fillers on the footplate . More awkward would be the curved front footplate & the different slide bar arrangement . The real stumbling block to using the Hornby model would be the tender as the 3,500 gall tender fitted to no. 61997 is noticeably smaller than the 4,200 gall tender . I'm not sure how you would get round this ! To show the differences I enclose a couple of shots of my attempt, using a Nu-Cast loco. with a Dave Alexander tender . All the best , Ray . 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Ray Flintoft said: Hello David , I see you have been asking on Tony's thread about the Thompson class K.1/1 . Most of the differences are quite minor such as the position of the lubricators & the sandbox fillers on the footplate . More awkward would be the curved front footplate & the different slide bar arrangement . The real stumbling block to using the Hornby model would be the tender as the 3,500 gall tender fitted to no. 61997 is noticeably smaller than the 4,200 gall tender . I'm not sure how you would get round this ! To show the differences I enclose a couple of shots of my attempt, using a Nu-Cast loco. with a Dave Alexander tender . All the best , Ray . Hi Ray Thanks for posting the photos your K1/1 is a stunning looking model. I did consider trying to adapt a Hornby K1 to a K1/1, Tony was kind enough to point out the main differences. To be honest the tender would not have been a problem as I could purchase the correct tender in kit form but the curved down would slope at the front of the footplate would be an issue. So I have put the idea on hold and hope that either a K1/1 or even better a K4 may one day be available RTR. Regards David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, landscapes said: Hi Ray Thanks for posting the photos your K1/1 is a stunning looking model. I did consider trying to adapt a Hornby K1 to a K1/1, Tony was kind enough to point out the main differences. To be honest the tender would not have been a problem as I could purchase the correct tender in kit form but the curved down would slope at the front of the footplate would be an issue. So I have put the idea on hold and hope that either a K1/1 or even better a K4 may one day be available RTR. Regards David Good evening David, 'Tony was kind enough to point out the main differences.' I didn't get all the main differences right, as Andrew (Headstock) quite rightly pointed out. 'but the curved down would slope at the front of the footplate would be an issue.' I must admit I haven't done any measuring, but what about a scrap Bachmann B1 body? Glancing at pictures, the angle/depth of the curved drop-down is pretty similar (though, no doubt, the purists will be annoyed). If it's suitable, why not try and meld the two together? The B1 might 'tuck-in' a bit more at the front, but the curve and the steps on it are there. If it helps, I have a scrap Bachmann B1 here (just the loco). It's not damaged, but it's got the horrid split chassis. You're welcome to it. Just PM me your address, please (I might have it, but it'll take some finding). I'll send it to you and just make a modest donation to your chosen charity if you're happy, please. You mentioned a K4. I know Dave Alexander did one, though I don't know if the kit is now available. Here's mine, which I scratch-built in 1983. It featured on my thread of late, and I've not long ago repaired/patch re-painted it after some chums dropped it on the floor, over a decade ago. I think they're a very attractive prototype. Regards, Tony. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: Good evening David, 'Tony was kind enough to point out the main differences.' I didn't get all the main differences right, as Andrew (Headstock) quite rightly pointed out. 'but the curved down would slope at the front of the footplate would be an issue.' I must admit I haven't done any measuring, but what about a scrap Bachmann B1 body? Glancing at pictures, the angle/depth of the curved drop-down is pretty similar (though, no doubt, the purists will be annoyed). If it's suitable, why not try and meld the two together? The B1 might 'tuck-in' a bit more at the front, but the curve and the steps on it are there. If it helps, I have a scrap Bachmann B1 here (just the loco). It's not damaged, but it's got the horrid split chassis. You're welcome to it. Just PM me your address, please (I might have it, but it'll take some finding). I'll send it to you and just make a modest donation to your chosen charity if you're happy, please. You mentioned a K4. I know Dave Alexander did one, though I don't know if the kit is now available. Here's mine, which I scratch-built in 1983. It featured on my thread of late, and I've not long ago repaired/patch re-painted it after some chums dropped it on the floor, over a decade ago. I think they're a very attractive prototype. Regards, Tony. Hi Tony That is a vey kind offer from yourself. But your idea has given me something to think about and possibly the solution to still convert my Hornby K1. I do have an old replica Railway B1 model in my loft I purchased many years ago and it’s been up there for at least six years. I will find it and measure the boiler dia compared to the K1. I will keep you posted on how it goes. Again thank you for your offer and your idea on using the B1 body. Its about time I found a use for it, this may be the reason I have been looking for. Best Regards David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hi Following on from yesterday with Tony's very kind offer and idea I ventured into the loft to find my old Replica Railway's B1. At the same time I found an old photograph album which includes a photo I took some time ago on the Severn Valley Railway of preserved K4 61994 The Great Marquess when it was in BR Black lined livery. Ironically it was photographed on their turntable at Kidderminster Station and the turntable once belonged to Fort William MPD which made it a little bit more authentic. My original photo was a Cibachrome print from a Medium Format Slide which in turn I have scanned onto my computer. Copy below it could have done with some weathering. Regards David 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Flintoft Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 16/09/2020 at 22:54, landscapes said: Hi Tony That is a vey kind offer from yourself. But your idea has given me something to think about and possibly the solution to still convert my Hornby K1. I do have an old replica Railway B1 model in my loft I purchased many years ago and it’s been up there for at least six years. I will find it and measure the boiler dia compared to the K1. I will keep you posted on how it goes. Again thank you for your offer and your idea on using the B1 body. Its about time I found a use for it, this may be the reason I have been looking for. Best Regards David I wouldn't use the B.1 body myself as it has a much higher running plate & the front lower section is somewhat shorter than the K.1/1( sorry , Tony .) If you are happy to build the tender yourself then you'll be interested to know that the front curve down on my 61997 was made from thick card curved to shape & glued on , with a sheet of thin brass glued on top to give the sharp edge . High tec. or what ! I've had no problems with this & it is over 20 years old . What you could do with the B.1 is to transfer the slide bars as a cosmetic fitting to give the right appearance to the K.1/1 . If you do go ahead with this please put photos of the completed model up here as I would love to see it . Cheers , Ray . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Ray Flintoft said: I wouldn't use the B.1 body myself as it has a much higher running plate & the front lower section is somewhat shorter than the K.1/1( sorry , Tony .) If you are happy to build the tender yourself then you'll be interested to know that the front curve down on my 61997 was made from thick card curved to shape & glued on , with a sheet of thin brass glued on top to give the sharp edge . High tec. or what ! I've had no problems with this & it is over 20 years old . What you could do with the B.1 is to transfer the slide bars as a cosmetic fitting to give the right appearance to the K.1/1 . If you do go ahead with this please put photos of the completed model up here as I would love to see it . Cheers , Ray . Hi Ray Following Tony's suggestion I did get my old Replica Railways B1 out and compered it with the new Hornby K1. I must admit I came to the same conclusion that the work involved would be way beyond my skills and there would still be differences from the finished model to an actual K1/1 which again in fairness Tony did mention. The Horny K1 is a superb model and my fear is I will end up spoiling a perfectly good model locomotive to achieve a model that would not be entirely accurate. Disappointed, Yes but will re think the project and to be honest I would prefer a K4 to the K1/1. Thank you for posting the information Ray. Regards David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Flintoft Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 On 18/09/2020 at 18:46, landscapes said: Hi Ray Following Tony's suggestion I did get my old Replica Railways B1 out and compered it with the new Hornby K1. I must admit I came to the same conclusion that the work involved would be way beyond my skills and there would still be differences from the finished model to an actual K1/1 which again in fairness Tony did mention. The Horny K1 is a superb model and my fear is I will end up spoiling a perfectly good model locomotive to achieve a model that would not be entirely accurate. Disappointed, Yes but will re think the project and to be honest I would prefer a K4 to the K1/1. Thank you for posting the information Ray. Regards David I understand completely , David , the Hornby ( is it horny !!!)K.1 is a superb model & I wouldn't like to spoil it either . You could renumber it as a Fort William based engine & have it appear occasionally on 64B in transit to or from Doncaster works . As Tony says Dave Alexander made a very nice kit of the K.4 ( I have one on my to do list for next year ) which you may find second hand but I wouldn't recommend it for a first kit build . Regards , Ray . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Ray Flintoft said: I understand completely , David , the Hornby ( is it horny !!!)K.1 is a superb model & I wouldn't like to spoil it either . You could renumber it as a Fort William based engine & have it appear occasionally on 64B in transit to or from Doncaster works . As Tony says Dave Alexander made a very nice kit of the K.4 ( I have one on my to do list for next year ) which you may find second hand but I wouldn't recommend it for a first kit build . Regards , Ray . Hi Ray many thanks, but I know my limitations and kit building is it one of them. Also I do have the Caley locomotive from Rail of Sheffield on order and an A2/2 with Hattons and I will probably order an A2/3 as well so funds will be needed for them. Good luck with your K4 kit and I look forward to seeing your progress. Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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