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Try this link for a start, I've centred it on Walkden Station, the A6 and Bolton Road. You should be able to scroll around and explore the area. It's the OS 6inch map 1888-1913.

 

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=53.5223&lon=-2.4011&layers=171&b=1

 

If you use that slider bottom left you can fade in Google Earth as an overlay and compare then to now.

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Try this link for a start, I've centred it on Walkden Station, the A6 and Bolton Road. You should be able to scroll around and explore the area. It's the OS 6inch map 1888-1913.

 

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=53.5223&lon=-2.4011&layers=171&b=1

 

If you use that slider bottom left you can fade in Google Earth as an overlay and compare then to now.

 

 

Hi Thanks for this very helpful. Great tool with the overlay, really interesting to see the changes. Amazing what you learn! Do you know if maps or records are kept of where old coal mine shafts are located? Thanks again,

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Yeah it's a neat bit of software, you can waste hours....

 

Yes, it's obviously a good idea to know where old shafts were and the old NCB kept extensive records though I've no idea where they are now. I would have thought it very likely that local authorities keep a record of shafts in their area to help with planning applications etc.

 

Can't be any more specific than that I'm afraid.

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The NLS (National Library of Scotland) are slowly releasing the larger scale 1:1250 / OS 25" 1892-1905 map series, shown in white on this link - just zoom in.

 

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/index.cfm#zoom=5&lat=55.7511&lon=-3.1000&layers=168&b=1

 

Unfortunately not yet up to the north of england, but getting there bit by bit !! Another valuable resourse as these large scale maps show actual track layouts, signal positions etc.

 

Edited to add - at this scale, old shafts are shown (up to 1905) - as in this example at parkend in the Forest of Dean

 

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/index.cfm#zoom=17&lat=51.7712&lon=-2.5591&layers=168&b=1

 

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Hi

The NLS (National Library of Scotland) are slowly releasing the larger scale 1:1250 / OS 25" 1892-1905 map series, shown in white on this link - just zoom in.

 

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/index.cfm#zoom=5&lat=55.7511&lon=-3.1000&layers=168&b=1

 

Unfortunately not yet up to the north of england, but getting there bit by bit !! Another valuable resourse as these large scale maps show actual track layouts, signal positions etc.

 

Edited to add - at this scale, old shafts are shown (up to 1905) - as in this example at parkend in the Forest of Dean

 

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/index.cfm#zoom=17&lat=51.7712&lon=-2.5591&layers=168&b=1

 

Brit15

, Thanks!! More homework
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Just one quibble: 400 tons at Bickershaw Colliery. The resident diesel generally took 14 loaded MGRs over the hills to the reception sidings, although rather slowly; the saddle tanks took seven, but much faster. For some reason I forget, Fred Larner decided that No. 7 could do a lot better and I watched them take eleven loaded MGRs one day. And yes, it was an awesome noise!

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Gandydancer thanks for posting your videos, the Walkden ones are superb !! Brings back memories (of Giants Hall Wigan, Bickershaw and Wogdin (sorry, Walkden) !!

 

NLS maps now have 1250 maps available. Here is the Walkden map, double click on the area you want, then choose the map in the right hand window.

 

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=14&lat=53.5166&lon=-2.4213&layers=101&b=6&point=53.5157,-2.4098

 

Here is the 1936 1250 detailed map

 

http://maps.nls.uk/view/126521666

 

Hope this is of use,

 

Brit15

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Yeah it's a neat bit of software, you can waste hours....

Yes, it's obviously a good idea to know where old shafts were and the old NCB kept extensive records though I've no idea where they are now. I would have thought it very likely that local authorities keep a record of shafts in their area to help with planning applications etc.

Can't be any more specific than that I'm afraid.

It's all centralised now under the Coal Authority - in Mansfield, Notts, I think. All planning applications are usually pushed in their direction.

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Just one quibble: 400 tons at Bickershaw Colliery. The resident diesel generally took 14 loaded MGRs over the hills to the reception sidings, although rather slowly; the saddle tanks took seven, but much faster. For some reason I forget, Fred Larner decided that No. 7 could do a lot better and I watched them take eleven loaded MGRs one day. And yes, it was an awesome noise!

I went to Bickershaw a lot and loads of up to 400 tons is accurate. I regularly saw 8 MGR wagons taken up to Abram sidings by Gwyneth and Respite .  Warrior and No.8 I often saw on 9 and 10 MGRs on their own which would be well over 400 tons. One of the older drivers got 24 16 tonners up with Hurricane.

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