dave flint Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 With respect, 25 years younger doesn't guarantee a better looking model, but probably means a better running model. I cite the Heljan 86, which at least 25 years younger than the Hornby one (at least) doesn't look as good to many people. Thank goodness for Dapol, who brought out the best 86 and did it in the right gauge too. My 2 powered/uncovered pairs are brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 With respect, 25 years younger doesn't guarantee a better looking model I can't think of one N gauge model that this would apply to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreamnos Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I can't think of one N gauge model that this would apply to. You're absolutely correct and I completely agree. Newer models in N gauge are not necessarily better runners, though. I've got some 25 year old Poole Farish models (steam and diesel) that will creep along slower and more smoothly than anything new from either of the two major manufacturers. Of course, that just means I get to admire their deficient looks longer... Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Very true. Still a lot of room for improvement in this area, especially for steam outline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locofan Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 When's this model due for release to the public? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted March 23, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2013 Painted samples on display at Alexandra Palace. Have to say that they look fantastic, and to my eyes I think it's just as good as the Farish Blue Pullman, in looks at least. Top job Dapol! Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted March 23, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2013 Very nice, and I see that they had 22's behind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Yes please to a blue one!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BECMAYE Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Lovely photos of the Westerns, is there any news on when they will be available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 They look good. Biggest problem will be deciding which one to buy. Might have to get two... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted March 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2013 The shade of maroon looks promising Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Now that looks lovely, I feel a maroon one for 'Champion-ising' when they're release. It looks to sit very well, with some cracking detail, particularly round the roof grill and fuel fillers. Not to sure on the wipers though, but if that's the worst thing on the model...bring it on! Oh and what's that Colas delight I spy...mmmm jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibuchan Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Oh and what's that Colas delight I spy...mmmm jo That was the first thing I spotted as well!! The westerns look very nice. Might have to get myself a maroon one, I see D1015 in my future! Alistair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 They look good. Biggest problem will be deciding which one to buy. Might have to get two... I already have 2 on order. Trouble is, now I want a green one as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1059 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 OMG - they look good. If it wasn't for the couplings they could easily pass for 4mm examples The next few months are going to be expensive with 22s and Westerns Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I already have 2 on order. Trouble is, now I want a green one as well! I was thinking of getting a green one and a blue one. I love the look of a green loco at the head of a rake of maroon coaches; but Westerns do look mighty fine in maroon too (and I had a Hornby Western in Maroon back in the day). But I'm a sucker for a bit of rail blue too. Maybe I need to get three... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 These do look superb and as others have stated, the plan is to replate as 1015 for me!! Just wish that other Westerns would join the mainline fleet. I am right in saying Western Chapion is the only one so far? Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 By the way, does anybody know which Westerns they are releasing? Obviously the desert sand one is Western Campaigner. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Hi hope not Simon 'Enterprise' ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 D'oh!!! dosey geezer!! hehehe Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rprodgers Posted April 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 14, 2013 Be good to see in the future a maroon one or Western Enterprise without the yellow warning panel. But please give me some time to save for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 am right in saying Western Chapion is the only one so far? So far, although there seems to be mumbling about trying to get D1062 back out there too. Pix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreamnos Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Is D1000 Western Enterprise in Desert Sand livery a special commission for one particluar retailer or will it be available to all retailers who wish to order it into their stock? It is not listed as a special commission on the Dapol website but given the apparently perpetual work-in-progress state of the Dapol website I am wary of the information imparted there. Didn't there used to be a product code list on that website? I could be mistaken. I cannot find it now. Hatton's does not list the Desert Sand livery as available for pre-order. Given I am keen on this livery, especially after seeing the photos posted above, I'd like to know from where I will be able to buy one! Many thanks, Matt Edit: I managed to answer my own question. After a check of Kernow produced no joy, on a whim I checked Osborns Models and it is their commission. For anyone else interested: http://www.osbornsmodels.com/nd-osb3-osborns-exclusive-Dapol-western-enterprise-d1000-desert-sand-livery-12625-p.asp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreamnos Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I don't know if anyone else has noticed but prices have gone up for these. I pre-ordered a green one a few weeks ago at Hattons for £83. Today I received an email notice from Hattons that the maroon one I was contemplating (but hadn't pre-ordered) would probably arrive in the shops this month and would cost... £91. So I checked the whole lot of them and yep, while Hattons were offering all of them for £83 (for the non-DCC versions) as recently as mid-April, all of them are now £91. Rails of Sheffied are also quoting about that same price but since I didn't pre-order with them I can't say if their price has gone up or not. Osborn's special commission of desert sand D1000 has not increased in price. It's still listed for £122. This has put paid to any plans I might have had for getting a maroon one. I've got a desert sand one on order with Osborns along with the green one at Hattons (who will honor my pre-order price) and I'm afraid that will do it. Both of the major N gauge manufacturers are quickly reaching (or have already reached) a price point where I think a lot of modellers are going to start re-evaluating if they really need to purchase their wares. Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Both of the major N gauge manufacturers are quickly reaching (or have already reached) a price point where I think a lot of modellers are going to start re-evaluating if they really need to purchase their wares.Sadly this is caused by inflation but more significantly by the steady decline in value of the pound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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