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Been trawling the inestimable Railbrit archive again, and thanks to the usual legends, here are links to, Waverley before and post-closure, a 37 at Whitrope, Clayton taking water at Carstairs, Ilfracombe being demolished, and a 26 on single line at Whitrope on April Fools Day 1971.

 

EDITED 28th December to include caption highlights.

 

And an Early Blue 47 at Melrose (image 26778), check out the headcode, I would LOVE confirmation that this is 1547, that I have now based a Bachmann i.d. tweak on, as covered in my W/B Blog.

 

Enjoy...

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26820 Keshopefoot looking north towards L/C

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26778 1547 (?) at Melrose, check out headcode

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26771 GRCW at Leith Central DMU shed

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26756 Selkirk Sta 1970

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26755

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26736 St Boswells northwards view

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26733 D2720 ready to lift Kelso - Tweedmouth section

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26719 Riccarton from Up Peak-hauled Class 1

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26663 Early Blue 24 at Whitrope, i.d. confirmation sought

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26600 Up view into Whitrope from 40-hauled 4M45

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26572 5307 at Whitrope, obbo special April 1st 1971

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26541 Class 37 D6838 at Whitrope December '68 RARITY

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26522 Non-Waverley: last Corstorphine DMU at Waverley

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26493 Class 08 across Hawick rooftops, demolition 1971

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Pure gold 'Chard, pure gold. You seem to be better at sniffing this stuff out than I am mate!

Thanks for your sterling efforts - stuff like this has potential for turning my layout project! :blink:

 

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And the next set, now with added detail:

 

3-car Met-Cam near Selkirk Jct on 4/1/69, this is the very essence of Waverley and the houses are spot-on the style of my semis!

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26427

 

The less-photographed Deltic special with 9002, in a very rare photographic locus, approaching Gala from the south, telegraph pole and signal cabling in evidence:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26402

 

BFYE D5337 at Penton in the frost just before the end:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26387

 

Shankend on 1/4/71 with D5307:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26380

 

Lyneside SB, this will blow your mind, Millerhill Boy!

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26353

 

Subject of recent frothing, City of Truro on the border ECML-style:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26332

 

Green EE Type 4 at the very start of the Waverley in Carlisle, Dec '68:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26316

 

Scotch Dyke

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26311

 

Looking back at Gala from a Clayton cab:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26307

 

Ballymoss on Shankend 1967, load 13 ECML diversion:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26286

 

80113 Hawick

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26260

 

A 50 glimpsed from a Waverley service

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26254

 

Border Counties trackbed, Plashetts

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26241

 

The last Hawick freight, April '69. Beyond poignant, these Clayton pics -

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26237

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26182

 

Last Hawick freight at Millerhill, with awesome period cars in shot:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26210

 

Heriot and a BFYE 64B 40, this shot is as good as it gets??

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26200

 

B1 approaching Hawick:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26146

 

Holy grail time: Early Blue 1536 at Copshaw Holm, note carriage boards

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26129

 

A4, Whitrope, snow aplenty

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26065

 

Sir Visto, Hawick

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26037

 

Seldom photographed: Longtown

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26026

 

Tudor Minstrel, Shankend

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26011

 

D49 at Hawick (see, I'm not biased!)

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=25948

 

That's all for now, it's turkey time! Enjoy!!!

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Excellent un-earthings Chard - I do regularly look at the Raibrit site but it is vast and not totally straightforward to negotiate

 

-the '24' pics have had made me realise I was not that far out with the 'Deadwater' layout, with the way the N gauge stuff is coming along, especially the idea of a Dapol N 26 Steele Road or Whiterope Sidings looks just the ticket!

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The 40 at Heriot shot is worth a second look. The caption is only half right, because far from passing through the station with a party of students on board, one of whom is taking the picture (because he later turns up taking a picture from the train itself entering Whitrope Tunnel), at the time the shutter is pressed the driver is actually setting back into Heriot refuge siding to detach a wagon that was running a hot box.

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Any sane, joined-up plan would question the closure of a railway serving towns that were clearly experiencing growth. Here??™s a very tasty 40 role-playing a vulture at Burnfoot in ??™72:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25060

 

Where do you start with signature Waverley like this at Kelso Jct?:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25032

 

Pretty shot of a Type 2 entering Gala, around the time of rationalization:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24991

 

Fancy weathered twenties? Here??™s a rare Langholm branch shot:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24986

 

Stobs Camp ??“ scars of MoD tramway on Acreknowe hillside:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24980

 

Round Arnton Fell, today this would rival the beauty of the West Highland:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24960

 

I lingered here eating lunch in 2003. I saw my only ever red squirrels, but no GSYP EE Type 1s came past:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24958

 

Pass the remote:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24956

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24860

 

Read the caption, it??™s my branch??™s entire raison d??™etre:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24948

 

To the other Mr McCartney, a knighthood surely awaits:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24941

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24942

 

Enough to bring grown men to tears:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24868

 

Stobs with one of the 64B GFYE ladies (1968/9 0r 72), suitably informative headcode but this is 2M54

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24864

 

Gresley N2 at Hawick, it says here:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24829

 

Caption caution, mid-60s must be pre-'64 if Riddings Sta is open, as it appears to be, now check out the smoke from this 12A Black 5!

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24585

 

Steele Road, with only a handful of trains left to call, this station building makes a very tempting model...

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24553

 

Hawick then and now, note oval wheel on the Vauxhall Omega!

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24768

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The extensive Railbrit archive is not the easiest to navigate nor the most searchable, thus it rewards persistence. Because it is, as we all know, a goldmine.

 

The past two days' work has enabled me to definitively i.d 1547 as my second Early Blue Brush. I say this with 60% certainty, which is sufficient for decaling and detailing purposes. Pictured at Melrose and photographed when I think, the last digits suspiciously look like 47 after I manipulated the image as a screengrab, she would have been a DO5 (Crewe) machine at the time, and therefore very plausible indeed.

 

Now to research the i.d of the 24 at Whitrope with the early style serif D-numbers. :P

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Bust the Bank Holiday Blues with this selection of links to awesome pictures of the Waverley route on the Railbrit site, including some great signalbox pics towards the end...

 

PESCO special ??“ sounds like something from Wallace & Monument, sorry Gromit!

One of my fav people shots on the line:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24638

 

Did I link to this V2 already? If I did, look again and check out the concrete sand? bin foreground:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24617

 

Ok, who hasn??™t stood here yet?

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24607

 

Five days before my DOB!

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24525

 

Pair of V2s on the seldom recorded stretch south towards Barnes

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24510

 

??¦and as the driver??™s eye view looks today:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24492

 

I have never seen this location before:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24346

 

OR, incredibly, Newtongrange ??“ last station to see a photo of?

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24342

 

Shankend Peak ??“ signature Waverley

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24320

 

How about THIS little piece of history, was the fare expensive for ??™68?

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24272

 

Newcastleton box, incredible record shot

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24239

 

Falahill

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24216

 

Kershopefoot box

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24172

 

Longtown box and Mossband chord

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24154

 

Shankend box and refuge

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24143

Scotch Dyke box

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24135

 

Tarras Viaduct on the Langholm branch, visited here but never heard it called by that name, wonder if the 4MT is 43139 or 43106!

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24093

 

St Boswells Sth box

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24063

 

BRCW on special 4th January ??™69, Riccarton

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24052

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Fortunately, due to contaminated mazak, this unwelcome insurgent disintegrated near Melrose and was cut up on site in Darnick Siding during 1960.

 

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24644

 

:lol:

 

Never seen a shot of it on the Waverley, though its WHL and Far North trials are documented. Not the only one to traverse the route though, IIRC there was one on a troop special c.1965/66

 

The extensive Railbrit archive is not the easiest to navigate nor the most searchable

 

Slight understatement. It's what we in the trade call 'pants' :huh: ;)

 

Now to research the i.d of the 24 at Whitrope with the early style serif D-numbers. :P

 

This might have come up before Chard but assuming it's a disc one (and you mean it's blue), 5062 and '68 were the early repaints in that condition

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Bostin set of links there 'Chard.

 

One which really drew me was 5307 on the saloon.

 

5307 thought I - surely that should have had it's boiler removed and SSC added by then, but due to some unknown reason 5307 became 26020.

 

Anyone know why ?

 

The only reason I can think of is that D5300 was in the works being fitted with the extra gubbins, and couldn't have become 26000.

 

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5307 thought I - surely that should have had it's boiler removed and SSC added by then, but due to some unknown reason 5307 became 26020.

 

Anyone know why ?

 

The only reason I can think of is that D5300 was in the works being fitted with the extra gubbins, and couldn't have become 26000.

 

 

 

Kind of. Because xx000 numbers werent used, gaps were filled - 5328 had been withdrawn, so 5320 became 26028, 5307 became 26020 and 5300 became 26007 - complicated, but it kept all the subclassses and braking variants together. (I havent been upstairs to check but I think I've got that sequence right) :lol:

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Mate, great spots! I'm not conversant enough with Flickr to search the site effectively, and fortunately I am pedestrian enough to trawl Railbrit - as Pennine says it's a bit user-fiendish.

 

The closure notice is awesome, it lists two dozen 'stations and halts,' including Whitrope, which was presumably staff-only (so why list it, as there won't be any jobs there on 6th Jan '69?), and the inclusion of Harker suggests that there was still a staff service, presumably into Carlisle, at this date, including non-Waverley staff who would still be required to turn up for work on Black Monday. Parkhouse RAF personnel were the other non-public affected.

 

 

Ian, the appearance of another 31 on a troop special doesn't surprise me at all, but 28s and 29s remain in the tantalizing basket. [EDIT: there is no evidence that either of these classes, nor any other pedal-cars ever rode the Waverley's metals.] Incidentally, like 31s, I do not want any evidence they were even intermittent performers on the line. Regarding the 24 i.d - yep those two do tally with my notes, I'll double-check the position of livery elements as these may be subtly different on them.

 

 

Phil, I'm no expert on 26 works visits, but now you mention it 5307 is that odd-man out, shame that in detail she differs from the HJ model, as she's probably the essential 64B specimen. You just know that last comment I made will trigger more W/B tomfoolery...

 

 

Cheers for the comments guys, guess the Bank Holiday bounce brought it to the attention of more people.

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Bust the Bank Holiday Blues with this selection of links to awesome pictures of the Waverley route on the Railbrit site, including some great signalbox pics towards the end...

 

Chard, you've done it again man. Whilst browsing these, a Donovan mid '60s ballad I ain't heard of, but totally fitting came on the radio, I was bl**dy choked mate! :icon_e_sad:

 

But cheers anyway - superb selection! :icon_thumbsup2:

 

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I'm glad someone took a photograph of the famous last stand by the locals at Newcastleton!

 

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=18723

Indeed, this legendary episode in the disgraceful closure process is captured in several pictures, including by one of the papers, if I'm not mistaken. The daytime and Downing Street elements of the protest ae also well catered for. However, as my layout will be the line in suspended animation in late '68, I will never have cause to model this in 00!

 

I wonder at what point in the procedings this picture was taken, because the constabulary seems to outnumber the protesters here!

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This might have come up before Chard but assuming it's a disc one (and you mean it's blue), 5062 and '68 were the early repaints in that condition

 

Just gone back over these links and have never seen a 1160hp / class 24 with the arrows on the cab doors before. Are you suggesting that 5062 and 5068 were the only two like it Ian ?

 

Fascinating stuff.

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Just gone back over these links and have never seen a 1160hp / class 24 with the arrows on the cab doors before. Are you suggesting that 5062 and 5068 were the only two like it Ian ?

 

Fascinating stuff.

When you inflate that pic to the limits of reasonable resolution, the anonymous Type 2 looks like it could be D5071, which IIRC was a 64B machine at this time, along with TTGSYP sister 5072 that is the subject of the Kernow L/E. At the moment the intended recipient remains recumbent in her Bachmann box awaiting clarification on this point, for she will end up in this very era-specific early livery variant.

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http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=22956

shows D8574 and D5071 most definitely in GSYP Summer 68, so did the 64B Type 2 receive Early Blue before the winter?

 

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23139

this appears to show D8574 again later that summer but now BFYE? It's got GSYP D5310 (I think) inside anyhow, so Haymarket's stayed green after Inverness' were going wholesale BFYE, also seen here http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23307 check out the chalk-marked leading PMV - is it? don't recognise the origins

 

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23147 familiar tracklifting shot at Hawick '71

 

A memorable Class 25 face from the freight-only period:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=22929

 

some 45 contrasts from Russell Saxton's 'Name that Peak' thread:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23740

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23712

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23706

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=22905

but what is this:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=22765

Green, full yellow end, centre glass panel Class 45, red 55A shedplate?

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