'CHARD Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Philou said: Well done Rails! Mine arrived this lunchtime in deepest darkest France by the post. (Now to sneak it in past SWMBO). Cheers, Philip Well done Rails! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philou Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) Hi 'Chard, Just as an update - I have snucked it into the house and I've had a look - pig ugly - but it looks excellent. I'll give it a run to check it out tomorrow. Cheers, Philip Yeah - I've amended the offending brain-f@rt - it's an age thing - particularly as I was in the right thread too!! Edited March 19, 2019 by Philou Incorrect attribution amended :( 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Pteremy said: These look very tempting - on a Rule 1 basis in my case - but what is it with diesels that were that were relative failures? Some sort of inverse rule seems to apply: their attractiveness as models is inversely proportional to their success in real life. At least with Hymeks/Warships/Westerns you can blame management decisions rather than performance. I think you can blame management decisions for the D600s, too, but in different way. Even the Kernow instruction leaflet starts with the words "These were the locos no one wanted." The BTC didn't want hydraulics but the WR did. The WR didn't want heavyweights but that was the only thing the BTC would let them have. D600 came in summer 1958 but by the end of the year the WR had D800, which was the lightweight diesel-hydraulic with the quick-running engines that the region wanted. From that moment on, there was no future for the D600s. I've read that, well driven, a D600 could produce a tractive effort close to that of a Western but 'success' is a subjective judgement. The D600s do not seem to have been mechanically unreliable but they were certainly let down by that Achilles heel of early BR diesels, the dreaded train-heating boiler. (CJL) 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Gwiwer said: Questions :- 1. Has anyone been able to access the cabs and fit crew? I had hoped the cab units might come away in a similar manner to the 22s and 52s (i.e. takes a bit of care, glue needs unsticking but with some effort they will lift out) but even with the obvious screws removed nothing seems willing to budge. 2. Has anyone yet found any issue with the overhang of the couplers on train-set curves? They are not a bogie-mounted arm on these but a separate fixing beneath the buffer beam. I applaud that since bogie-mounts are wont to droop but there is quite a prominent out-swing of the coupler on tight curves in consequence. It seems to be within gauge however. 3. Those slightly sloppy nameplates - who has re-set them straight and is there any issue with the glue mark if one does that? Mine has a little ooze around the plate concerned and I would rather leave that on the "hidden" side than risk popping the plate off only to find I had a bigger problem to fix. Thanks. I've seen four, so far, and the nameplates on all of them are fine. I think the one illustrated here was just unfortunate. (CJL) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, dibber25 said: I've seen four, so far, and the nameplates on all of them are fine. I think the one illustrated here was just unfortunate. (CJL) Not quite - I've seen photos of quite a few with wonky nameplates, and both of the ones on my model were sloping to the right; (which seems to be the case whenever the nameplates do slope). Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Just trialing a new sound decoder for the Class 41. Charlie (www.dckits-devideos.co.uk) Runs nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, cctransuk said: Not quite - I've seen photos of quite a few with wonky nameplates, and both of the ones on my model were sloping to the right; (which seems to be the case whenever the nameplates do slope). Regards, John Isherwood. Of course, the easy way to ensure they are straight is to put them in a little recess..........or to just print them! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2019 One of my four nameplates leans slightly to the right. None is entirely free of excess glue though the amounts were very small. Neither problem troubles me; they are minor in the overall scheme of things. They could have arisen where ever the locos were produced and would not necessarily have been avoided with additional checking. Printing the nameplate on does not guarantee it will be straight but will always leave it looking printed not rendered as a raised plate. Full marks to Kernow MRC for including fitted plates within the price on these models. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted March 19, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2019 8 hours ago, dibber25 said: I've seen four, so far, and the nameplates on all of them are fine. I think the one illustrated here was just unfortunate. (CJL) No problem with the plates on my Cossack, either. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Gwiwer said: Printing the nameplate on does not guarantee it will be straight but will always leave it looking printed not rendered as a raised plate. Full marks to Kernow MRC for including fitted plates within the price on these models. Of course. I was being facetious. (CJL) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 They could always have modelled them in post 1967 condition. Then they wouldn't have needed nameplates. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waraqah Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 On 17/03/2019 at 17:42, Geoff Endacott said: Warships didn't have a number one end. They had an A end and a B end. Geoff Endacott Wouldn't it have been a bow and a stern? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 17 hours ago, dibber25 said: Even the Kernow instruction leaflet starts with the words "These were the locos no one wanted." Perhaps that's why they look so sad. I'm almost tempted to give one a loving home, if it weren't tantamount to abusing rule#1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) On 18/03/2019 at 18:01, Gwiwer said: Questions :- 1. Has anyone been able to access the cabs and fit crew? I had hoped the cab units might come away in a similar manner to the 22s and 52s (i.e. takes a bit of care, glue needs unsticking but with some effort they will lift out) but even with the obvious screws removed nothing seems willing to budge. The screws up front just behind the buffers and the black plastic cover that they secure also need removing, fold back the LED circuit board the light tube fittings are glued in place inside the nose all 4 of mine in one end came away in-tacked with gentle persuasion then the cab interior drops out. I haven't tackled the other end yet. Edited March 19, 2019 by bubbles2 Add picture 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Here's the 2nd pic too big to add both on the same post. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted March 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2019 Splendid effort by Kernow, a good job well done! NBL may have been hopeless at building diesel locomotives but they were always nice looking. I never thought we would see these as RTR models. Kernow could teach a few others a thing or two about spotting opportunities and working well with their manufacturer. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Crew added, I had to cut the seats out and reduce the seat height before refitting them so the figures are virtually bums on the floor as with most other diesel cab interiors even though I use 3.5mm, HO scale figures. Yes I know they need painting, this is just a test fit. 9 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted March 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 20, 2019 Like many others I received my 'Ark' today. The many years of waiting are over and this beautiful loco does not disappoint. Lots of detail and nice touches, I remember seeing these locos on the Western region in my youth and they bring back fond memories. I think I was one of the few people who liked these more than the D800 Warships, but I am a fan of these early diesel locos of the 1950/60s Kernow have done us proud with this model, thank you to all the team in Cambourne who have worked so hard to bring this loco to fruition. Am looking forward to my other Warship which is on a following ship. The next job will be a sound chip to bring them to life 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 On 18/03/2019 at 17:02, BMacdermott said: I well remember being a short-trousered train-spotter standing at the end of one of Paddington's platforms when one of the class - brand new at the time - came into the station. The assembly of spotters all booed! Little did I think that some 60 years later I would buy a model of the type Yup - did the same thing in '75 (but denim & Parka-clad) when the prototype HST appeared - how time mellows one. Would have snapped the model up if it had come to fruitition ......................................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 15 hours ago, 7013 said: Like many others I received my 'Ark' today. The many years of waiting are over and this beautiful loco does not disappoint. Lots of detail and nice touches, I remember seeing these locos on the Western region in my youth and they bring back fond memories. I think I was one of the few people who liked these more than the D800 Warships, but I am a fan of these early diesel locos of the 1950/60s Kernow have done us proud with this model, thank you to all the team in Cambourne who have worked so hard to bring this loco to fruition. Am looking forward to my other Warship which is on a following ship. The next job will be a sound chip to bring them to life Mine arrived in West Oz today, along with 'Lord Rodney'. also from Kernow, for a very "naval" day! I can only re-iterate 7013's comments, and also add my thanks to CT for his perseverance in seeing this through. It has been worth the wait. I have run mine in on a rolling road. and spent the late afternoon putting on the 'bits', nearly losing one front lamp iron. Thanks again Mr. T, .another model of the year? Cheers from Oz, Peter C. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Kernow deserve congratulations for bringing this fine model to market; my only 2 'niggles' are that the finish could have been a little more satin - subjective I know- and the front faring at the side of the of the loco by the buffers could have been 2-3mm lower, but I may be wrong here. Its also good to praise the quality of customer service offered by Kernow; all email queries answered promptly and the goods delivered in good time and well packaged. Model of the year?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, paulbb said: ...the goods delivered in good time... I think I ordered mine seven years ago and it still hasn't arrived. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Looking forward to receiving mine, only ordered them in November or so, though, so could be waiting a while yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9001 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 It’s rather sobering to realise that in the 11 years between ordering mine and receiving it today, a fifth of my life has passed by and I probably have half the time left to enjoy it as I thought I would have. nice model, though... 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 20/03/2019 at 14:34, bubbles2 said: Crew added, I had to cut the seats out and reduce the seat height before refitting them so the figures are virtually bums on the floor as with most other diesel cab interiors even though I use 3.5mm, HO scale figures. Yes I know they need painting, this is just a test fit. Is that Her Maj in the left hand seat? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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