RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: I don't know the speed ranges on the D6XX transmission but I suspect the first change point can't have been far away from that speed. Anybody got a set of training notes for them? Mike, 29 mph and 57 mph according to this page: http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/d600m_in.htm 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, St Enodoc said: Mike, 29 mph and 57 mph according to this page: http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/d600m_in.htm Seen that, that's why I asked the question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted March 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2019 This video may not show outside Facebook, but some excellent class 22 sounds at around 10 minutes in. Very nice they sounded too, not dissimilar to Hymeks in my opinion. neil 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2019 Fantastic video, it’s just a shame the presenter talks through the entire film otherwise it would be great for DCC sound. it is however fascinating to watch ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubaimike Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Are the class 14 and class 22 sound effects in this video authentic? I ask because I'm sure the sound which accompanies the class 37 leaving the Dean Forest is of a class 25. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I think one has to be very careful about engine sounds. For myself, I’m only interested in the correct engine noise. So it’s not so much about the loco class, more about what a MAN L12V18/21, Maybach MD 650, MD655, Paxman 6YJXL etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 The class 14 sounds authentic but the 22 sounds a bit too Maybach. The MAN engines had a softer sound. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted March 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Dubaimike said: Are the class 14 and class 22 sound effects in this video authentic? I ask because I'm sure the sound which accompanies the class 37 leaving the Dean Forest is of a class 25. Yes indeed that class 37 footage certainly has a class 25 soundtrack Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted March 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2019 Will soon be getting around to chipping mine. Please can anyone recommend a suitable non-sound chip? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted March 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2019 I generally use Lenz decoders they can handle most motors and give nice smooth running, they are not the cheapest but are superbly made. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 On 21/03/2019 at 20:06, Ouroborus said: Some weren't so lucky For 159 of HMS Cossacks' crew it ran out very suddenly in 1943, http://www.hmscossack.org/images/LO3_Sinking2.JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted March 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2019 9 hours ago, 7013 said: I generally use Lenz decoders they can handle most motors and give nice smooth running, they are not the cheapest but are superbly made. I haven’t tried Lenz before so I’ll give one a go. Thanks for the tip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 3 hours ago, TrevorP1 said: I haven’t tried Lenz before so I’ll give one a go. Thanks for the tip. The Lenz Standard has been my constant purchase as the lowest price for high grade motor drive (which is pretty much all I require, mostly running steam). At about £16 until quite recently - now about £19 - it was real steal. Downside for many, only in eight pin wired format. Doesn't bother me as I hardwire most models because the manufacturers are still often clumsy in their decoder socket positioning and internal space provision for decoders. It took some years for a price competitor to emerge, but now the Zimo MX600 series are available with the considerable benefit of a choice of connector formats, all at the same price, typically £20. Same style of high grade motor drive, and even more adjustment refinement, (which you won't need on an intrinsically smooth running competent centre motor drive such as this Kernow model has; but a good capability to have available if you want a less sophisticated mechanism 'tamed'). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted March 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: The Lenz Standard has been my constant purchase as the lowest price for high grade motor drive (which is pretty much all I require, mostly running steam). At about £16 until quite recently - now about £19 - it was real steal. Downside for many, only in eight pin wired format. Doesn't bother me as I hardwire most models because the manufacturers are still often clumsy in their decoder socket positioning and internal space provision for decoders. It took some years for a price competitor to emerge, but now the Zimo MX600 series are available with the considerable benefit of a choice of connector formats, all at the same price, typically £20. Same style of high grade motor drive, and even more adjustment refinement, (which you won't need on an intrinsically smooth running competent centre motor drive such as this Kernow model has; but a good capability to have available if you want a less sophisticated mechanism 'tamed'). Thank you. Another one to consider. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium stephennicholson Posted March 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2019 I grabbed a few moments at our club rooms before the start of our junior modellers club that I run, to record my Warship with Sound added (purchased from DC Kits/Legobiffoman at Ally Pally). Ignore extraneous mobile phone sounds and derailing coaches! Hopefully those of you on this thread can pass comment on how accurate you think the sound is. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) It doesn't really sound like a diesel hydraulic to me - no revving up as it gets a grip of the train to start away and no hint of a change of engine note for a gear change. Mind you it's one heck of a long time since I last heard a D6XX and not far short of 61 years since I first heard one so memories do change a a bit Edited March 30, 2019 by The Stationmaster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I used to stay with my grandparents near the GWR main line west of Plymouth in the 1960s. I heard the trains more often than I saw them. The D600s were relatively common but it didn't hear anything which sounded like that. Sorry. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, stephennicholson said: I grabbed a few moments at our club rooms before the start of our junior modellers club that I run, to record my Warship with Sound added (purchased from DC Kits/Legobiffoman at Ally Pally). Ignore extraneous mobile phone sounds and derailing coaches! Hopefully those of you on this thread can pass comment on how accurate you think the sound is. Sounds a bit like a German BR215 to me, especially when idling. Edited March 31, 2019 by adb968008 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium stephennicholson Posted March 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) "It doesn't really sound like a diesel hydraulic to me - no revving up as it gets a grip of the train to start away and no hint of a change of engine note for a gear change. Mind you it's one heck of a long time since I last heard a D6XX and not far short of 61 years since I first heard one so memories do change a a bit Edited 8 hours ago by The Stationmaster" My D800 has youchoos sound with a couple of "set off" sounds which might be needed here? "I used to stay with my grandparents near the GWR main line west of Plymouth in the 1960s. I heard the trains more often than I saw them. The D600s were relatively common but it didn't hear anything which sounded like that. Sorry. Geoff Endacott" Looks like I will need get the chip reblown when someone comes up with a better reproduction. In the meantime I will enjoy because as still sounds quite good. "Sounds a bit like a German BR215 to me, especially when idling." A quick google says thats a Maybach engine but same transmission. Maybe it is a german locomotive with Man + Voith? Edited March 31, 2019 by stephennicholson addition 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium stephennicholson Posted March 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2019 Thanks for the responses. RMWeb at its best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 It sounds like a recording of the NBL MAN generator unit in the container on YouTube. The problem is there is only one engine and it runs at a constant speed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I received mine a week ago but have only just found the time to run it in. Really pleased and looks the part on a train of mk1's. never saw an all green one but I wanted something appropraite for my 'special' trains that appear inbetwen the 1930's stuff. I did see a blue one hauling a breakdwon crane, when I was quite young and may be convinced to part with more cash. Mike Wiltshire 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I am right in thinking that the indicator boxes were only fitted at the end of 1966? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted March 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2019 Was going to buy the DC kits sound chip myself, however after the comments I may wait to see if anyone works on the sound to make it more authentic. Always difficult if there are no decent recordings of the prototype. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 The best approximation would probably be D821 or D832. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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