RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 18, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Not too sure about that Squadron stuff, I had to clean my file a lot more than I would have done with Milliput. The finish is almost the same, I have had some dodgy finishes with Milliput when it gets old. No other work on it apart form filing off the excess filler. Peter mentioned the BRCW Lion the other night. Look what I came across today. Not as good as the Heljan model, except I think I got the ivory finish better than Heljan's lilly white. Now had BRCW not had Wilkes and Ashmore interfere help with Lion's looks it could have been something like this. Stay tooned for more Brush four. Edited January 18, 2018 by Clive Mortimore 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Clive, What about one of those Cuban "Class 47s" built by Clayton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Fascinating thought on the BRC&W Type 4. It had never dawned on me that they already had an "in house" style with the 26/27/33 that vanished with "Lion". John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 19, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2018 Clive, What about one of those Cuban "Class 47s" built by Clayton? Hi Peter When I built the non working but being worked Type 4 with its radiators held up I took the radiators off another one. This has been ear marked as a Cuban 48 for a long time. Last year when I built the class 48 I found out that Castro's engines not only had different radiators but also engine room roofs. It is on the cards as they did run on BR metals before being sent to Cuba. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 19, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Fascinating thought on the BRC&W Type 4. It had never dawned on me that they already had an "in house" style with the 26/27/33 that vanished with "Lion". John. Hi John I have a collection of could have beens, they all need finishing off. The English Electric ones have been painted but none of the others have. This one will be D666.....a NBL diesel electric type 4 Edited January 19, 2018 by Clive Mortimore 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted January 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2018 I love a 'neverwazza'! Would really like to see the end results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Is there any British (non-steam) loco you've not attempted Clive? Bet you've not done the NBL/Parsons gas-turbine ordered by the Ministry of Fuel & Power in the early 1950s though..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 19, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2018 Is there any British (non-steam) loco you've not attempted Clive? Bet you've not done the NBL/Parsons gas-turbine ordered by the Ministry of Fuel & Power in the early 1950s though..... Hi Peter I have the drawings, wasn't going to be like the Union Pacific turbines fired by coal dust? There is quite a few. The Fell, the GWR gas turbines, some of the early LMS shunters, the GWR gas turbine converted to an electric loco, a class 82 and D2999. I did start classes 83, 84 and 85 but gave them away before finishing them. Class 74 electro -diesel, I did start a class 71 and two of the Hornbys but a change in modelling direction called time on them. Bulleid's 0-6-0 shunter. BEL 1 and 2. The NER and Woodhead electrics. I better get my act together and build them. One of my biggest inspirations was seeing conversion done by some geezer in Model Railway Constructor and a book he done about modelling diesels, just wish I could remember his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Or spell it................ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hi Clive, I've been looking though some of your threads and this is what I call proper modelling. I remember reading about pig lane in a mag years ago and wishing I could do what you achieved. Keep up the good modelling and updates on your projects. Mark Towers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 19, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2018 Not much progress tonight. I marked and cut out the layers of plastic card that will give the tanks and battery boxes their depth. only to find I had made them too short so after at first saying sod it, I went back and done one side. Luckily the miss-measurement was between the complicated bits on the ends so I inserted some scrap plastic card and this will be covered by the battery boxes. Only one side done tonight. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Hi John I have a collection of could have beens, they all need finishing off. The English Electric ones have been painted but none of the others have. This one will be D666.....a NBL diesel electric type 4 021.JPG Yes, this would have been even more lumbering than the D600's with all the electrical gubbins. Wise of them to use a 1Co-Co1 chassis to spread the weight a bit! Off on a tangent but just before Christmas I came across my 2 Joueff Class 40's, not run in at least 30 years I guess. Took out of box, plonked on track and they roared away - how amazing is that. John. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 The NBL DE type4 would be a interesting loco, will NBLs ability to add weight. The D600 came in at 117 tons, and the DE class 21 was about 5 tons heavier than the DH class 22. That would put it at 127 tons, so needing the 1Co bogies, which would add another (let's be generous) 5 tons. That would give you a 2000bhp 132 ton loco with the legendary NBL reliability. All this when Swindon was designing the same BHP loco for only 80tons. Wonder why it never got built? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 20, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 20, 2018 No photo tonight as I did the other side. If you want copy last night's picture and in your image program just flip the illustration and you'll see what I done tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 22, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2018 Nothing done yesterday. I wasn't feeling 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 22, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) I marked out where the radiators are and started filing one side, after a few strokes I heard CRUNCH!!!!!! I had a look and the windscreen had broken. Not the end of the world I can knock a replacement up. Trying to get an angled flat area on rounded surface is quite hard and I think to do both sides will take some time. No photo tonight as time is running out, spent too long gluing cork to baseboards. Edit Tomorrow's photo will include the broken windscreen. Edited January 22, 2018 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 23, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2018 I am still working on the radiators It is going to take a long time to file the area flat enough to either lay a set of closed Serck shutters or the earlier 3 part fixed radiator. Still can't make my mind up. As you can see scratchbuilding has its problems, looking at the damage I can either cut out the windscreen and make a new one or replace the pillars. It is mendable. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbowilts Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I am still working on the radiators It is going to take a long time to file the area flat enough to either lay a set of closed Serck shutters or the earlier 3 part fixed radiator. Still can't make my mind up. As you can see scratchbuilding has its problems, looking at the damage I can either cut out the windscreen and make a new one or replace the pillars. It is mendable. 100_4721a.jpg 100_4723a.jpg 100_4726a.jpg Clive I have had old (thirty year old) plasticard go brittle. Could this have happened here? Tim T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 24, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2018 Clive I have had old (thirty year old) plasticard go brittle. Could this have happened here? Tim T Hi Tim No it was lack of care by a 60 year old with a file. I can do the same thing with something I built the day before and with new plastic card. Press too hard and very little flex in the model something has to give. It happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPH 603 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) That's some great modelling there Clive. Once I can get meself more plasticard hopefully I can start some more 'proper' modelling. EDIT: Sorry I've spammed your notifications box with 'DoubleDeckInterurban rated your post Like and Craftsmanship/Clever!' I have a habit of doing that. Edited February 27, 2018 by DoubleDeckInterurban Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 Brush 4s do seem like a strange model to scratch build as there have been so many RTR ones (5 or 6). Would I be right in saying it was made to use up some spare 47 bogies? I do have a soft spot for the old Hornby ones. But you are getting that 47 shape very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 27, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 Brush 4s do seem like a strange model to scratch build as there have been so many RTR ones (5 or 6). Would I be right in saying it was made to use up some spare 47 bogies? I do have a soft spot for the old Hornby ones. But you are getting that 47 shape very well. Hi Martin the bogies are left overs from a cut and shut Baby Deltic using a Tri-ang Type 3 body. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hi Martin the bogies are left overs from a cut and shut Baby Deltic using a Tri-ang Type 3 body. I knew it! Good reuse of components there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CloggyDog Posted March 16, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2018 Hi John I have a collection of could have beens, they all need finishing off. The English Electric ones have been painted but none of the others have. This one will be D666.....a NBL diesel electric type 4 021.JPG I dunno Clive, I reckon D666 should have the D600-style bonnets 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 16, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) I dunno Clive, I reckon D666 should have the D600-style bonnets Now the NBL design team did think about that until some geezer at BR said it will be too long for the L1 loading gauge. Edit....And it won't fit in Clive's shoe box with the other N-gins. Edited March 16, 2018 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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