RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted October 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2012 I'm not sure where the inspiration to build this came from. Quite often, I'll be sitting with a collection of parts in front of me on the workbench and an idea will form. In this case, I had a set of Peco castings for an N gauge Peckett saddle tank. These came out in the early to mid 1970s and were intended to fit on an Arnold 0-4-0 chassis. The problem with that was to accomodate the motor, the cab ended up about 22mm wide, way overscale. The boiler & saddle tank castings were less of a problem, being of a more rational scale size. The actual castings were good, being made by Wills for Peco. The chassis was easy, I had an Ibertren Cuckoo chassis converted to 2mm finescale using replacement wheels. It was missing its valve gear so I was considering what to do. Then I had one of those lightbulb moments. Hadn't I seen some industrial saddle tanks with enclosed motion? A scan through various books of industrial photos threw up 2 possibilities, Aberdeen Gasworks http://www.flickr.co...ckr/5756549848/ which was a Black Hawthorn, so not quite right and The Guinness Brewery in Dublin http://www.flickr.co...57628618688939/ which was more like it, albeit a Hudswell Clarke. In the end I decided to build my own interpretation using the parts on hand. This was the result before painting: These are the various sub assemblies, first, the chassis. This had the boxy Ibertren motor replaced by a small flat can 1015 Mashima, which fitted within the profile of the saddle tank. Next the footplate & sideskirts. These were made from plasticard, with a mounting plate for the body fixing screw epoxied in place. The remaining Peco castings were assembled, with the cab being narrowed by simply sawing it down the middle then rejoining joining with ordinary high melting point solder. This can be a bit tricky but the resulting bond is strong, being more like a weld than a solder joint. Once painted, this was the final result: The photo is many times lifesize and it highlights where I've taken a few shortcuts. In real life, it doesn't look too bad. And, having looked again at the Aberdeen Gasworks loco, a cunning plan for one of those has come to mind... Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Very nice! I must admit, I was wanting to do something similar, but when I saw the price those Peckett body shells make on ebay, I HAD to sell. It allowed me to get an N brass Peckett, which is a bit more scale, but great to see how you've altered the insane loading gauge on your model, and It looks excellent! Happy modelling Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted October 23, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2012 Well, it's two scarce things that were used for this loco. The Ibertren chassis is fairly sought after by OO9ers and there's the Peco body kit. The Peco body came to me as a badly assembled kit which was dunked in paintstripper and reduced to its component parts. I'm told the moulds still exist and are in good order but the chassis is no longer produced. I also have an N-Brass Peckett and I'm thinking of doing mine as an inside cylindered Y class. Dimensionally, it's pretty close. Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 could be worth keeping an eye out for the Manning Wardle they used to do too, as the shape of the saddle tank and smoke box are pretty close to that Black Hawthorn linked above. .. Happy modelling Paul A.Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted October 24, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2012 could be worth keeping an eye out for the Manning Wardle they used to do too, as the shape of the saddle tank and smoke box are pretty close to that Black Hawthorn linked above. .. Happy modelling Paul A.Paul A. I have one of those too, hence my cunning plan... Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted November 5, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2012 could be worth keeping an eye out for the Manning Wardle they used to do too, as the shape of the saddle tank and smoke box are pretty close to that Black Hawthorn linked above. .. Happy modelling Paul A.Paul A. The origins of 'Kimberley', see here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/38581-highbury-colliery/ are the Peco Manning Wardle - body bits kindly donated by Mark many years ago. The castings on these Peco kits are a little on the chunky side but are generaly of very good quality and well worth working up. The weight of white metal castings is always useful in 2mm. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Hi Mark, Ever since you first posted this I've been thinking there was something that just didn't look right and I've finally realised what it is... There are no cylinders! I think it would look better if you cut back the skirts from the front (including the part under the bufferbeam) to just in front of the front wheel. Then add some cylinders with just enough of the slide bars to show up until the point they disappear behind the skirts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted November 5, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2012 Hi Mark, Ever since you first posted this I've been thinking there was something that just didn't look right and I've finally realised what it is... There are no cylinders! I think it would look better if you cut back the skirts from the front (including the part under the bufferbeam) to just in front of the front wheel. Then add some cylinders with just enough of the slide bars to show up until the point they disappear behind the skirts. I think my interpretation is still valid. The photo of No. 2 here: http://www.irsociety...22/Guinness.htm shows no outline of cylinders. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 The origins of 'Kimberley', see here http://www.rmweb.co....hbury-colliery/ are the Peco Manning Wardle - body bits kindly donated by Mark many years ago. The castings on these Peco kits are a little on the chunky side but are generaly of very good quality and well worth working up. The weight of white metal castings is always useful in 2mm. Jerry Very true, here's one I had a go at over the summer (awaiting steps, sandboxes, leaf springs and pipework) Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I think my interpretation is still valid. The photo of No. 2 here: http://www.irsociety...22/Guinness.htm shows no outline of cylinders. Mark Fair play. I guess I was thinking of locos such as the Barclay at Huddersfield gas works. http://www.flickr.co...axi/5277607195/ or the Aberdeen loco http://www.srpsmuseum.org.uk/images/10002/10002_0.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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