arran Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbbuspics/8063571976/in/pool-1374548@N22/ HI All I sometime get asked by people if Freightliner still haul 30ft containers and i tell them the bulktainers can be seen from time to time, Well the evidence is in the pic. Regards Arran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emdpowerrules Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Regulars on the Bristol 'boozeliner' from Tilbury, train normally has a pair of Megafret twins for them as not all the route is cleared for the wide bulktainers yet. IFF, Interbulk and UBC branded boxes, all are now owned/operated by Interbulk. Fully loaded Megafrets(early Remafer version), shows the difference in height and width of standard boxes and the bulks. Current bulktainers are 2.5m wide 3DB0 and 2,55m wide 3MB0, I think both are 9' high though manufacturer WH Davis gave a height of 8'9" on their old website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I wonder what they're carrying in the Bulktainers? I know that some versions have normal container doors, rather than the more specialised 'letterbox' ones , and so can be used for ordinary dry cargo, but I'm surprised to see so many in one train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emdpowerrules Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 The Bristol trains are contract services for Accolade Wines who have a large bottling and boxing plant at Avonmouth. According to Accolade's website the wine is delivered in bulk, bulktainers carry food products in giant plastic bags but I'm not sure they would carry liquids! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggy0_1 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 The Bristol trains are contract services for Accolade Wines who have a large bottling and boxing plant at Avonmouth. According to Accolade's website the wine is delivered in bulk, bulktainers carry food products in giant plastic bags but I'm not sure they would carry liquids! Hi Brian, they carry plastic pellet used for anything from car bumpers to syringes,they normally carry about 26ton, i only know because i've delivered them for the past 7 years. darren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Hi Brian, they carry plastic pellet used for anything from car bumpers to syringes,they normally carry about 26ton, i only know because i've delivered them for the past 7 years. darren I'd heard of them being used for this, as well as for things like bulk malt; I just couldn't think what a wine importers might be using that would come in a bulk container, rather than a tank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbringer Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 A colleague of mine once ran from Felixstowe to Avonmouth with a 20' box loaded with a plastic bag full of wine. According to him not a nice experience. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 A colleague of mine once ran from Felixstowe to Avonmouth with a 20' box loaded with a plastic bag full of wine. According to him not a nice experience. Pete Now that's what I call a 'bag-in-box'...I can imagine how unpleasant that drive would have been, as that plastic bag wouldn't have all the baffles that a purpose-designed road tanker would have to 'damp' the effect of the liquid moving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2012 I wonder what they're carrying in the Bulktainers? I know that some versions have normal container doors, rather than the more specialised 'letterbox' ones , and so can be used for ordinary dry cargo, but I'm surprised to see so many in one train. As most of the pics are of trains from Bristol I presume they might be carrying product from Accolade or do the boxes go down loaded with imported stuff and back up empty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 As most of the pics are of trains from Bristol I presume they might be carrying product from Accolade or do the boxes go down loaded with imported stuff and back up empty? The latter,alas, Mike- Accolade's outgoing traffic would be to supermarket and licenced-trade distribution centres around the UK. I just had a look at their site and saw how many 'New World' brands they own or distribute- no wonder they can run block trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arran Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 HI All Its nice to see the twins with a 50ft deck loaded fully,you don't see that to often. i will ask about the bulks going to Bristol this week as i have a contact in Interbulk who will know if you can load them with liquid. Regards Arran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emdpowerrules Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 A colleague of mine once ran from Felixstowe to Avonmouth with a 20' box loaded with a plastic bag full of wine. According to him not a nice experience. Interbulk's website does mention plastic liners in standard dry box containers, I did find a pic a while ago of a bulktainer loaded with plastic bags suspended from the roof but can't remember where. Accolade's website details unloading methods and refers to 'containers' rather than tanktainers. The loaded boxes are heavy, KFAs and FSA/FTA can only carry one fully loaded 20' box and FEAs two, this is what happens when you put one in the middle of a KFA; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXHALL Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 A colleague of mine once ran from Felixstowe to Avonmouth with a 20' box loaded with a plastic bag full of wine. According to him not a nice experience. Pete They showed a 20' box being unloaded on one the of the 'Eddie Stobart Trucks and Trailers' episodes last series on channel 5. Can't remember where it was at but the wine was from Australia. They basically connected a hose to the bag and then it went straight to the bottling machine. I remember commenting to my wife about how fun it would have been to have driven that as would most likely have no internal baffles. IIRC though the bag was only about 1.5 metres deep so centre of gravity would have been kept as low as possible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Within Australia, a reputable wine-maker (Brian Crozier of Petaluma) uses refrigerated containers to ship freshly-harvested grapes from Western Australia to his winery in NSW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arran Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 HI All I asked my contact in Interbulk and they dont use liquid bags in 20ft or 30ft Bulks in the UK. but if you think about it a 30ft bulk has a cubic capacity of about 45cubic meters and if thats wine it would be 45 tons payload. Regards Arran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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