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Interesting point with WD 12 as its home depot being Bramley which would have been an easy transfer to Longmoor via Borden if major attention or need was required.   Roger Hateley's "Locomotives of the Ministry of Defence" shows "Bramley No.1" (WD 74553) has new to Bramley and seen there in 4/52 and 6/52.   Next seen at Long Marston on 3/55 and 1958 but was disposed off in 1959.   I can find no reference to WD 12 (WD 74553) being at Longmoor in "LMR - Part 3".   As David R said to me after Part 3 was published he and Mike C could not guarantee that every piece of army rolling stock based at Longmoor was included.   Have any books been published that refer to operations at Bramley?

 

 

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Of which Longmoor brake, van wagon prototypes are there reasonable RTR models?   Bachmann/Invicta's 37-537X provide the LMR 'standard' brake van.   Strangely van ARMY 47555 was chosen by Bachmann for 37-806.   That may have been chosen deliberately as no record can be found of the prototype's allocations!!!   So why not make it a Longmoor van.   Dapol do have moulds for some diagrams of vans which the army purchased.   Large amongst these were batches of BR diagram 1/208 for general allocation with Longmoor receiving a batch.   Maybe a future candidate for Wessex Wagons.   When it comes to wagons, Wessex model No.345 is a 'dead ringer' for LMR's 24t. hopper AD 82692.   Nice if this could be repeated but as AD 82691.   Their models Nos. 246, 314/5 show a very good decoration for WD 46276 and 46299 can only be affixed to Dapol's 4-plank 'merchandice' body as there are no 'dropside' ones available for true accuracy.

 

With so many model RTR Longmoor locos, it is a pity that there are so few vans and wagons to add to the brake van to make a reasonably Longmoor freight train.   So what more can be done?   There are not even transfers available to easy renumber undecorated bodies.   Geddi had a good try with the artwork he produced but a technical hitch in preparation bought that to an end.

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2 hours ago, coline33 said:

Interesting point with WD 12 as its home depot being Bramley which would have been an easy transfer to Longmoor via Borden if major attention or need was required.   Roger Hateley's "Locomotives of the Ministry of Defence" shows "Bramley No.1" (WD 74553) has new to Bramley and seen there in 4/52 and 6/52.   Next seen at Long Marston on 3/55 and 1958 but was disposed off in 1959.   I can find no reference to WD 12 (WD 74553) being at Longmoor in "LMR - Part 3".   As David R said to me after Part 3 was published he and Mike C could not guarantee that every piece of army rolling stock based at Longmoor was included.   Have any books been published that refer to operations at Bramley?

 

 

Thanks for the information, really appreciated.

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2 hours ago, coline33 said:

Of which Longmoor brake, van wagon prototypes are there reasonable RTR models?   

IIRC they had some LSWR road vans which will soon be available from Kernow models.

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12 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

IIRC they had some LSWR road vans which will soon be available from Kernow models.

Unfortunately, KMRC are not doing an army version.   I pre-ordered mine when first announced but cannot recall in which century!   I was either going to use it on my Wenford Mineral or repaint for Longmoor.   Times change and I got fed up waiting so cancelled.   Now if an army version was to be released then I will again be amongst the first to place an order now that I am purely RTR.

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I have checked the numbers of the 4 wheeled brakes, vans and wagons between "LMR  Part 3" and my 'Bicester records' and set out those further vehicles that have been allocated to Longmoor.

 

AD 46054        10t. 5-plank open ex-LBSCR 

ARMY 46182   10t. open ex-LBSCR diag.1369

47027               ramp wagon (there seems to be a number problem here}

ARMY 47872   10t. non-vent. van ex-MR diag. D360

49013               ex-SR diag.1579 finally allocated to FIBUA Longmoor

49024               This appears to have been the allocated number for listed 13139 in the 1956 renumbering but the                                  1956 Palmers Ball  accident wrote it off beforehand.

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I used to attend the model railway club at RAF Brüggen in the mid-1980's (I was a civvie working in the Big House at Rheindahlen). The club had an old german railway carriage, which was parked by a warehouse at the far end of the tracks. Sometimes it was shunted away from where we could plug in to the mains, so we had to give up on those evenings. Rheindahlen had a model railway club based in an old SSVC building, with a large OO scale layout, but I was more into N.

 

The carriage had been used as a bar and disco at RAF Wildenrath (now Siemens testing ground), and when it was no longer fit for that, it was moved from the Wildenrath branch, along a stretch of the DB line to the Brüggen branch. I believe a crate of beer left in the local signal box allowed the movement of an un-braked, un-maintained vehicle to pass un-noticed.

 

The interior had been stripped for disco use, but the coal bunker underneath was still full of coal for the heater that had been removed. We were building a long thin N gauge layout in it.


A new base commander came along and did not like a tatty old carriage making his nice clean base look tidy, so it went for scrap.

 

I was told that the line into RAF Brüggen was fairly regularly lifted and relaid, as practice/training/punishment.

 

Now I live not far from Bramley (and the former military line to Burghfield that does not appear on maps). The Middleton Press book covering the Reading-Basingstoke line has some photos and a few details about Bramley.

 

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Thanks, Ian, for the background.   Certainly I was not aware of its existence in the fifties.   I assume you used the daily Rheindahlen coach from/to Bruggen.   I used to get to/from the Rheindahlen model shop in my lunch times by hiding under the cloth covered table in Bruggen's postal van!

 

Yes, Bramley is short of detail but my records show no army brakes, vans or wagons being allocated to that depot.   Colin.

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