Leeds City, the Midland Side, in 4mm.

[jamie92208]

I think part of the art deco north concourse was used for car parking as well.  The entrance opposite the Majestic cinema never closed but then you had to go up a sort of footpath through the concourse with metal crowd barriers between pedestrians and the car park bit. It was a bit intimidating at night to some and it's use seemed to be tolerated rather than encouraged. I did catch trains from that part of the station in the late 50's early 60's when going to and from Giggleswick where we lived. Of course the most interesting part of that are won't be on the model, namely the Tatler cinema club in the basement of the hotel, not that I ever went in there apart from once whilst policing a royal visit but that's another story altogether. 

 

Jamie

[Dave Holt]

John.

Coming along very nicely. The addition of the buildings and canopies will make a tremendous difference to the look and feel of the station area. They'll also make judging the precise stopping point over the uncoupling magnets rather interesting.

Dave.

 

[St Enodoc]

7 minutes ago, jamie92208 said:

the Tatler cinema club

I think that's the same place that was the News Cinema and Cleo's at different times? Entrance on the corner where the North Concourse opened on to City Square?

[jamie92208]

34 minutes ago, St Enodoc said:

I think that's the same place that was the News Cinema and Cleo's at different times? Entrance on the corner where the North Concourse opened on to City Square?

Yes that's right. I did pnce go into it when it was a News Cinema. It was The Tatler by 75 and I believe then became a nightclub of sorts.

 

Jamie

[TheLaird]

This pic shows the entrance from Aire St I believe, about where the parcels dock would have been.

 

[jamie92208]

4 minutes ago, TheLaird said:

This pic shows the entrance from Aire St I believe, about where the parcels dock would have been.

 

I remember  the gloomy ambiance well.

 

Jamie

[Barry O]

1 hour ago, TheLaird said:

This pic shows the entrance from Aire St I believe, about where the parcels dock would have been.

 

When I worked at Barnbow if I had a meeting with the MoD in London I was given and "Executive First" Rail ticket. It had the train tickets, reservations breakfast and tea tickets and... a car park ticket for the car park shown. Turning left at the "roundabout" was interesting as you could never see what was  coming the otherway. You can see why the roof leaked!

 

Baz

[TheLaird]

When the railways came to the West Riding, industrialisation was in full swing making some areas unpleasant to live in. The privileged few were able to take advantage of this new form of transport and move away to more pleasant surroundings and so was born the age of commuting. This gave rise to what we call outer suburban services. From Leeds, on the Midland, they operated along the Aire valley across to the west coast and are generally referred to as the Morecambe-Carnforth’s. I obtained a copy of the 1959 West Riding carriage workings from Robert Carroll’s site and as I have no other information, used this as the basis for the carriage workings on the model. At this time, the workings are predominantly made up of corridor 3 sets. Unlike other areas, the sets are made up CK-BTK-TK, nearly all ex LMS period 3 Staniers. A number of sets are coupled together to form longer trains and some have strengtheners attached. It is quite common that the services were combined or separated at Wennington, where the Lancaster/Morecambe line parts company with the Carnforth line. Other services ran independently to Leeds but were combined here for the return journey.

Here we see 43039 arriving into platform 5 at 1204 with a train from Morecambe Promenade, formed of a 3 set with 3xBG’s attached in the rear. Over in platform 4 can be glimpsed the ECS for the 1353 Morecambe/Carnforth formed of two 3 sets.

The pilot will shortly remove the ECS to the sidings and dispose of the vans. The carriage stock will be combined with another 3 set and form the 1514 Morecambe/Carnforth.

Edited May 10, 2020 by TheLaird
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[jamie92208]

Those look good. Had they finished spitting iff the Bradford portions at a iIRC Skipton by then. Also I seem to remember a morning train from Morecambe known as the Resy or Residential that in Midland days had a Club car. I think some version of it was still running when we moved to Giggleswick in 59.

 

 

[Ian_H]

Hi John

 

Leeds is looking good! May I ask what do you mean "and some have strengtheners attached", I'm work from a low knowlege base so would appreciate any information.

 

Thanks

Ian

[Joseph_Pestell]

24 minutes ago, Ian_H said:

Hi John

 

Leeds is looking good! May I ask what do you mean "and some have strengtheners attached", I'm work from a low knowlege base so would appreciate any information.

 

Thanks

Ian

 

Strengtheners. Extra coaches added to a train on busy days/times. At quieter times, the train would be formed from a fixed set of coaches.

[Ian_H]

Okay, got it .... Thanks Joseph!

 

Ian

Edited May 10, 2020 by Ian_H

[TheLaird]

19 hours ago, jamie92208 said:

Those look good. Had they finished spitting iff the Bradford portions at a iIRC Skipton by then. Also I seem to remember a morning train from Morecambe known as the Resy or Residential that in Midland days had a Club car. I think some version of it was still running when we moved to Giggleswick in 59.

 

 

 

Yes, Jamie you are quite correct. The Morecambe Residential was a specific train aimed at the businessmen of Leeds and Bradford. It is slightly different to the normal services in its formation and working. From around 1900ish, the Midland added club cars to each portion, but they disappeared pre-war. The document I have from 58 (not 59 as previously stated) gives the formation as follows, BSK-SK-SK-BFK Leeds portion and BSK-CK-CK-BSK Bradford portion. The morning train left Morecambe with both portions and split at Skipton. In 62, the Leeds portion arrived P6 at 0932. The ECS was shunted to the north sidings and coupled to an ordinary set that had arrived from Morecambe at 0907 P5. The ordinary 3 set included an SK strengthener, making an 8 coach rake that remained in the siding all day, forming a return working of the “residential” to Morecambe at 1655. However, this train was split at Skipton, the “residential” portion being attached to the Bradford portion and working forward limited stop. The remaining four coach rake departed shortly afterwards forming a stopping service to Morecambe.

[jamie92208]

I remember  it coming through Giggleswick non stop. I'm glad my memory isn't faulty. One day I will get my club car finished for running the ressy on Green Ayre. 

 

Jamie

[TheLaird]

Further to Jamie’s post and my reply about the Residential, it just so happens that the last few pictures I took before clearing the decks were of the ECS move later in the afternoon. I am fortunate to have made contact with Keith Long who started his career as a BR Signalman in the Leeds area and was the booking lad at City Jct from 1961. Keith tells me that at that time, the most common loco for the Morecambe Residential was a Jubilee. On this occasion, 45562 “Alberta”, a long time resident of Holbeck shed, is rostered for this duty.

 

 

Alberta has arrived LE in the North Carriage Sidings to collect the ECS.

 

 

The first four coaches are the “Residential” and the rear four will form the slow train from Skipton.

 

 

It is 1620 and Alberta draws the ECS out on to the Down Fast line prior to setting back into platform 4. The signalman has been a bit quick in replacing the inner home, maybe because he needs to get a “shunt into forward section” from Whitehall jct so that the train can clear the pointwork.

[Compound2632]

I hadn't appreciated before that last photo just how many switch diamonds there are there. The switched crossing single slip in the middle is making me go cross-eyed!

[TheLaird]

5 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

I hadn't appreciated before that last photo just how many switch diamonds there are there. The switched crossing single slip in the middle is making me go cross-eyed!

 

They are all un prototypical but the only way to get reliable running because of the shallow angle created by the curvature!

Edited May 17, 2020 by TheLaird

[TheLaird]

A little bit of progress to report at last, the UBeam canopy on P5 temporarily in place.

 

 

 

Constructed from various thicknesses of plasticard with the glazing yet to be added.

 

 

Still a long way to go yet, will the lockdown last long enough!!

 

 

[Ian_H]

Hi John,

 

The canopy is looking good, I remember you building the roof for Bradfield and I was well impressed with that as well.

 

Best

Ian

[John76]

John

 

How did you make the upright supports?

 

John

[TheLaird]

14 hours ago, John76 said:

How did you make the upright supports?

 

John

The beams were made out of plasticard, 20thou for the web and 10thou for the flanges. The webs were cut on a Silhouette Portrait cutter. It doesn't cut through 20thou but scores enough for them to be broken out. The flanges are 3mm strips solvent welded to the webs. It may not be obvious from the pics, but all the beams are slightly different sizes due to the narrowing nature of the canopy. As the beams get shorter they also get lower because they slope at an angle, so to compensate they have to become progressively taller. 

 

Regards John E.

[TheLaird]

The third and final version of the station concourse building.

 

 

 

A close up at the end of platforms 4 & 5

 

 

Still plenty of work to do yet but a bit more progress and it is starting to look like a station.

 

 

Edited July 5, 2020 by TheLaird

[Andrew Duncan]

26 minutes ago, TheLaird said:

The third and final version of the station concourse building.

 

 

A close up at the end of platforms 4 & 5

 

 

Still plenty of work to do yet but a bit more progress and it is starting to look like a station.

 

 

Lovely work John, what are your plans for the platform surfaces?

Kind regards

Andrew

[simontaylor484]

On 05/05/2020 at 11:38, jamie92208 said:

Yes that's right. I did pnce go into it when it was a News Cinema. It was The Tatler by 75 and I believe then became a nightclub of sorts.

 

Jamie

It became Planet Earth at one bit and had a revolving dance floor which made life interesting after a few pints this was late 90s early noughties . Majestyx was too expensive frequented by footballers for a mere mortals Yorkshire man 

[TheLaird]

15 hours ago, Andrew Duncan said:

Lovely work John, what are your plans for the platform surfaces?

Kind regards

Andrew

 

Mostly slabbed Andrew, although as the sixties progressed they were asphalted over to provide a smoother surface for the parcels trolleys. Laying individual rows is very time consuming and back breaking, I have done the longest one first, all 2.5M of it!!

Any progress on the signalling?