CUTLER2579 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 So who can tell me what 61028 Umseke is named after as "Google" is no help ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 On 18/05/2019 at 01:27, St Enodoc said: The only loco sound that I might consider using is the whistle, so that when shunting the driver can give a "pop" to the bobby when he is clear of the points, then another as he starts to move. Fixed speakers would probably work for this - perhaps one at each end of the station. You need one of these! 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 It seems that Umseke is the Kaffir name for the Reitbok or Reedbuck. Apologies if the K word is no longer PC, but the definition comes from an old tome. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 54 minutes ago, 31A said: You need one of these! There must be an opportunity for someone to sell those with British whistle notes! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: There must be an opportunity for someone to sell those with British whistle notes! It's quite good actually; it can do a British whistle if you blow into one end and a chime whistle (a la A4 or Britannia) if you blow into the other. I did try and do some videos but they were rubbish, as I don't think I've got the hang of it on my phone. Might try again later! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, 31A said: It's quite good actually; it can do a British whistle if you blow into one end and a chime whistle (a la A4 or Britannia) if you blow into the other. I did try and do some videos but they were rubbish, as I don't think I've got the hang of it on my phone. Might try again later! I didn't know that Steve. I thought they only had the chime. I must try to find the one I had again. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) Regarding the names for B1s, I was and am hopeless at trying to get my vocals around some Pacific examples. Sad I know but how is 60117 pronounced? Also 60514 and 60530. I can manage 60536 but that is only because of life experience. P. Hil Edited May 19, 2019 by Mallard60022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted May 19, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) I've been doing a few more panning experiments this morning, with various degrees of success and failure. It would seem to be the best combination (along with luck) is to set the ASA to 100, fully open the iris and use a shutter speed of about 25th of a second, with the locos doing about a scale 100 mph. Here are the results. A slight blurring, but it does convey speed. The loco is an old Wills kit on a scratch-built chassis, built by me and painted by Ian Rathbone. A bit too much blurring on this one, as KINGFISHER (Pro-Scale/Peabody/Wright/Rathbone) dashes south on the non-stop. This, and the next one, are probably the best I've managed. The Nikon D3 on burst mode sounds like a machine gun, and I just pick the sharpest image from about ten at a time. KITTIWAKE has the Up 'West Riding'. Originally started and part-built by the late Geoff Brewin from a Pro-Scale kit (yes!), I completed it, painted it and Tom Foster weathered it. MONS MEG (Crownline/Wright/Rathbone) has the Down 'Flying Scotsman'. Nobody will ever convince me, even with them travelling at speed, that these Thompson Pacifics look 'right'. And 60700 (SE Finecast/Wright/Rathbone) heads an Up express. What do all these show? That in model photography form I'm not a patch on the likes of Michael Mensing or Colin Walker in respect of their taking pictures of the real thing? That crews in cabs (yes, they're there in the W1) and fall plates are necessary? That one can spend a few enjoyable minutes mucking about experimenting with panning? Has anyone else tried doing this on their model railways? Edited May 19, 2019 by Tony Wright typo error 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: Regarding the names for B1s, I was and am hopeless at trying to get my vocals around some Pacific examples. Sad I know but how is 60117 pronounced? Also 60514 and 60530. I can manage 60536 but that is only because of life experience. P. Hil Good morning Phil, As a sprog 'spotter, 60117 was always Bowis Russell! Since it's French, it's Bwa Rousey (I think). Perhaps a linguist will help. 60514 (again, I think) is Shamosair (it's also an Alpine mountain), and 60530 is Sayaji Row (as in quarrel). 60128 was always phonic to us sprogs, but, also being French, it should be pronounced Bongrarse. Oh those lovely loco names. Which has set me thinking.............. My personal opinion as to loco names, could be listed thus......... Best of all; the P2s. The most absurd; the Gresley A3s (though not every one). Really good; The 'Britannias'. Also very good; the 'Kings' and the 'King Arthurs'. Most jingoistic; the 'Lord Nelsons'. Most educational; the 'Jubilees'. The most boring; 'Halls', 'Granges', 'Manors', etc. The daftest; 'The Red Nose' on a Virgin HST some years ago, though other modern names are running it close. The most literate; the various classes named from the Scott novels. Those with the most correct English; the post-War 'Counties' - not perpetuated by British Rail with things like 'County of Cambridgeshire', for instance. The most patriotic; obviously the 'Patriots' (at least some) and the 'Royal Scots'. There must be dozens of others........................... Regards, Tony. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: Regarding the names for B1s, I was and am hopeless at trying to get my vocals around some Pacific examples. Sad I know but how is 60117 pronounced? Also 60514 and 60530. I can manage 60536 but that is only because of life experience. P. Hil I would struggle with plenty too, including 60117. 60117_Wymondley_up-YP_3-61 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr I've never been totally sure of the correct pronunciation of D9009 Alycidon. As for 60530, I haven't a clue how to say the name. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buhar Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I think for most educational you'd struggle to beat some of the LNWR names, particularly those on Precursors. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Regarding pronunciation of D9009, a friend in the DPS always says it as A-li-Siddon, if that makes sense 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Britannia's for me as No 1. - Apollo and Shooting Star. Brit15 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: There must be dozens of others........................... I thought British Rail had a good try with the Class 60s - a mix several themes including well-known (but not celebrity) names and mountains, some of which were un-pronounceable except to Highlanders. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Nick Holliday said: It seems that Umseke is the Kaffir name for the Reitbok or Reedbuck. Apologies if the K word is no longer PC, but the definition comes from an old tome. Kaffir, a creole based on Zulu with a smattering of Afrikaans and English. So presumably umseke is in fact the Zulu name. It might be both more PC and chronologically correct to say that reitbok is the Afrikaans name for umseke, and reedbuck the English name. In any case, it shows a fine sense of evenhandedness on the part of the LNER naming committee (even if unintentional) to memorialise the species under all three names! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Good morning Phil, As a sprog 'spotter, 60117 was always Bowis Russell! Since it's French, it's Bwa Rousey (I think). Perhaps a linguist will help. 60514 (again, I think) is Shamosair (it's also an Alpine mountain), and 60530 is Sayaji Row (as in quarrel). 60128 was always phonic to us sprogs, but, also being French, it should be pronounced Bongrarse. Oh those lovely loco names. Which has set me thinking.............. My personal opinion as to loco names, could be listed thus......... Best of all; the P2s. The most absurd; the Gresley A3s (though not every one). Really good; The 'Britannias'. Also very good; the 'Kings' and the 'King Arthurs'. Most jingoistic; the 'Lord Nelsons'. Most educational; the 'Jubilees'. The most boring; 'Halls', 'Granges', 'Manors', etc. The daftest; 'The Red Nose' on a Virgin HST some years ago, though other modern names are running it close. The most literate; the various classes named from the Scott novels. Those with the most correct English; the post-War 'Counties' - not perpetuated by British Rail with things like 'County of Cambridgeshire', for instance. The most patriotic; obviously the 'Patriots' (at least some) and the 'Royal Scots'. There must be dozens of others........................... Regards, Tony. I was quite impressed by the painstaking and thorough naming of the WDs 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tony Wright said: I've been doing a few more panning experiments this morning, with various degrees of success and failure. It would seem to be the best combination (along with luck) is to set the ASA to 100, fully open the iris and use a shutter speed of about 25th of a second, with the locos doing about a scale 100 mph Has anyone else tried doing this on their model railways? Ive done some a few years back on Retford and Leamington, I’ll see if I can dig them out. I also did them on Albion Yard, it being much shorter 10ft, the speed was slower, I think I used 1/8th sec f2.8 100asa on a 70-200 zoom. Single shot mode with autofocus tracking on. Bachmann 57xx, this was one of the first sound fitted Panniers I’m aware of. It’s a SWD chip hard wired into an early release, and written up for the Modeller in 2007 https://albionyard.wordpress.com/dcc-sound-pannier-conversion/ How time flies! (I also managed to get almost a full album of Springsteen song titles into the article..) Edited May 19, 2019 by PMP 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Tony Wright said: I once wrote some notes regarding these for a magazine and found that several were tautological (GNU and WILDEBEESTE for instance) and others were the same species but with different dialect spellings of their names. There is a way of telling the difference between a gnu and a wildebeest. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You can't paddle a wildebeest. (I'll get me coat...…..) 1 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Its elsewhere on the site, but thought would add here too. Market Deeping has set up a crowd funding page:: https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/market-deeping-mrc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 52 minutes ago, Clearwater said: Its elsewhere on the site, but thought would add here too. Market Deeping has set up a crowd funding page:: https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/market-deeping-mrc Amazing, I just watched nearly £1,000 added less than five minutes. Hopefully it will go some way to give a psychological as well as a financial boost to the club. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Jeez... if that valve gear should ever let go at that speed there'll be shrapnell embedded in every wall.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Chamby said: Amazing, I just watched nearly £1,000 added less than five minutes. Hopefully it will go some way to give a psychological as well as a financial boost to the club. Agreed - it’s going viral. Shows some hope for humanity! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: Regarding the names for B1s, I was and am hopeless at trying to get my vocals around some Pacific examples. Sad I know but how is 60117 pronounced? Also 60514 and 60530. I can manage 60536 but that is only because of life experience. P. Hil I bet that whatever way they were supposed to be pronounced, or whatever way the owners pronounced them, the bookies and their clients definitely had their own pronunciation and it sounded totally different from anything else. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) Perhaps I go against the grain but I always thought the LNER naming policies were inspired. I thought many of the A3 were named after racehorses, was that not the case or was it the later A1s that were racehorse names? The Bongos – well I like them even if nobody else does. To me they are more interesting and engaging than Kings and Queens or Dukes and Duchesses et al. The pronunciation that caught me out was the LMS Jubilee Galatea. I thought the 'Schools class' was an odd choice of naming by the Southern but always liked their far more down-to-earth concept of locomotives bearing the names of humble villages, towns and urban districts served by the railway. I wonder if the LMS could have come up with enough names for the Black Fives all with an association to 'black'. Edited May 19, 2019 by Anglian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Anglian said: Perhaps I go against the grain but I always thought the LNER naming policies were inspired. I thought many of the A3 were named after racehorses, was that not the case or was it the later A1s that were racehorse names? The Bongos – well I like them even if nobody else does. To me they are more interesting and engaging than Kings and Queens or Dukes and Duchesses et al. The pronunciation that caught me out was the LMS Jubilee Galatea. Whilst agreeing to an extend bout the LNER naming policy, when it comes to B17.....there is a team missing. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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