Arun Sharma Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 hours ago, micklner said: Mallard has from memory, a Garter Blue cab, as is the Tender front . Never heard of any LNER Loco with white Cab roof .There are plenty of photos at the NRM A4 gathering on here and elsewhere. The Claud Hamilton that was Stratford's royal train engine had a white roof. I'm sure I've seen a colour pic of it in Backtrack or some such over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Arun Sharma said: The Claud Hamilton that was Stratford's royal train engine had a white roof. I'm sure I've seen a colour pic of it in Backtrack or some such over the years. I have read it as and the post above yours as well, as the OP is refering to the cab interior. Cheers. Edited November 16, 2019 by micklner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ROSSPOP Posted November 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2019 yes folks the roof interior........................... ...of course never believing in preserved examples....... ...assuming this might be nearer a 1930`s colour excluding the red ?????? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted November 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) Quote 2 hours ago, CUTLER2579 said: rOY, It was for the wedding of F Katharine Lucy Mary Worsley; to Prince Edward, Duke of Kent @ York Minster on 8th June 1961. There is a photograph in" Top Shed" by Peter Townend it could be that 60003 was the reserve engine or transported guests to the wedding. Regards,Derek 2 hours ago, ROY@34F said: Thanks for that Derek . I'm sure you're spot on there . Roy. Photo of the train here at Kings Cross - 60028 with what looks like a white cab roof. (Click the link below for larger version etc.) The full text in this feature lists the other engines used on the various specials and the stand-by train. Includes a mention of 60003 on one of the other specials - hope this helps. I am fairly sure I recall reading that some worked on to Hovingham with the reception guests and have seen pictures in books on the railways of Ryedale. Sadly cannot remember which ones. Edit: Thinking about this a bit more I may be merging memories of seeing the photos of A4s on the school specials run for Ampleforth Coillege with this run for this royal event. Edited November 16, 2019 by john new Extra info added. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Royal visit to Lincoln and Lincolnshire 1958 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, jrg1 said: Royal visit to Lincoln and Lincolnshire 1958 Presuming that's Lincoln loco shed it's remarkable to think it still exists although much altered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold kingmender Posted November 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2019 The inspiration of this thread is contagious. A few years back I considered building a Comet chassis replacement for a Hornby/Mainline Dean Goods. Oxford then announced one and my enthusiasm withered. However the performance of the Oxford model is lacking so the project was reconsidered. Having built the tender chassis, I got the brake rigging too far off the wheels, and made a coal space my attention has now shifted to the loco chassis. Herein lies a question, should the top hat bearings be inserted from the outside or inside of the frames? Rodger 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 hours ago, great central said: Presuming that's Lincoln loco shed it's remarkable to think it still exists although much altered. The loco shed was rebuilt in the ate fifties and closed in 1964. It was derelict for many years, and then was re-purposed as a venue and concert hall for Lincoln University. Apparently, the original brief was to retain the rail lines and pits, glassed over, but this was not pursued. The old Great Central Warehouse was also re-purposed as the University library-both well worth a look inside with much original detail retained. 10 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGair Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Great work on the Hachette A4. Did you spot the fly on the right hand side of the footplate. Must be ready for a ride. 9 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrovich Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I would like to thank Tony and Mo for their hospitality at the Portsmouth exhibition, it was our yearly catch up and most enlightening it was as well. Also "Sir" solved a N gauge loco problem or two for someone, taught me how to not mix up solders and generally pointed me in the right direction on other matters of life. Regards Peter 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 11 hours ago, kingmender said: The inspiration of this thread is contagious. A few years back I considered building a Comet chassis replacement for a Hornby/Mainline Dean Goods. Oxford then announced one and my enthusiasm withered. However the performance of the Oxford model is lacking so the project was reconsidered. Having built the tender chassis, I got the brake rigging too far off the wheels, and made a coal space my attention has now shifted to the loco chassis. Herein lies a question, should the top hat bearings be inserted from the outside or inside of the frames? Rodger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 11 hours ago, richard i said: Inside. In the loco frames? Are you sure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, gr.king said: In the loco frames? Are you sure? I was thinking it was a set of tender frames in the photo and so put pin point bearings in from the inside and solder from the outside as that would locate them for the ends of the axles. If he meant a loco chassis and bearings for the drivers that is a totally different kettle of fish. It is interesting how different people interpret the same thing in different ways. It how the minds work. Mine has normally been discribed as somewhere out in left field. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2019 12 hours ago, kingmender said: The inspiration of this thread is contagious. A few years back I considered building a Comet chassis replacement for a Hornby/Mainline Dean Goods. Oxford then announced one and my enthusiasm withered. However the performance of the Oxford model is lacking so the project was reconsidered. Having built the tender chassis, I got the brake rigging too far off the wheels, and made a coal space my attention has now shifted to the loco chassis. Herein lies a question, should the top hat bearings be inserted from the outside or inside of the frames? Rodger It depends on several factors, the width over the frames, the thickness of the top hat bush and how much sideplay you need. Top outwards is easiest if that meets the other criteria but I fit them top inwards if they have to be filed down to get enough clearance for the wheels. No technical reason either way, just quicker to file where the bushes are thinner. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted November 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2019 12 hours ago, kingmender said: The inspiration of this thread is contagious. A few years back I considered building a Comet chassis replacement for a Hornby/Mainline Dean Goods. Oxford then announced one and my enthusiasm withered. However the performance of the Oxford model is lacking so the project was reconsidered. Having built the tender chassis, I got the brake rigging too far off the wheels, and made a coal space my attention has now shifted to the loco chassis. Herein lies a question, should the top hat bearings be inserted from the outside or inside of the frames? Rodger I always solder the main chassis bearings in from the outside. If it's of interest. Comet specify the 1015 Mashima for the Dean Goods but there's ample room for the 1024, which gives a bit more torque at low speeds. 7 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted November 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, Barry Ten said: I always solder the main chassis bearings in from the outside. If it's of interest. Comet specify the 1015 Mashima for the Dean Goods but there's ample room for the 1024, which gives a bit more torque at low speeds. Thats worth knowing. I've got a very old Mainline model to overhaul in the future. Kind regards, Nick. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 16 hours ago, kingmender said: The inspiration of this thread is contagious. A few years back I considered building a Comet chassis replacement for a Hornby/Mainline Dean Goods. Oxford then announced one and my enthusiasm withered. However the performance of the Oxford model is lacking so the project was reconsidered. Having built the tender chassis, I got the brake rigging too far off the wheels, and made a coal space my attention has now shifted to the loco chassis. Herein lies a question, should the top hat bearings be inserted from the outside or inside of the frames? Rodger Probably inside................ Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 hours ago, gr.king said: In the loco frames? Are you sure? Outside for the loco frames, and outside on the tender if it's a sub-frame. Otherwise inside on the tender. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted November 17, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 hours ago, petrovich said: I would like to thank Tony and Mo for their hospitality at the Portsmouth exhibition, it was our yearly catch up and most enlightening it was as well. Also "Sir" solved a N gauge loco problem or two for someone, taught me how to not mix up solders and generally pointed me in the right direction on other matters of life. Regards Peter Thanks Peter, It was good to chat to you as well. What a wonderful show the Portsmouth one was. A very high standard all round, very well-organised and wonderful hospitality. Such a range of superb layouts, including....................... Arun Quay in O. Clifton and Lowther in N. Normandy Shed in O. Sanford and Banwell in P4. And Wickwar in N. Mo and I made nearly 20 quid for CRUK in offering advice and my fixing locos - yes, two in N Gauge! Folk also donated as they went by. I had the almost-complete Nu-Cast B16/3 on display - the one started/dismantled/restarted/re-dismantled by Roy Jackson, then built by me. Just the guard irons and the motion to make, then painting. Thanks to all those with whom I spoke at Portsmouth, and particular thanks to the young lad who's going to build a plastic wagon kit I gave him. He showed great interest! And thanks to all those who've responded in my absence over the three days, particularly with A4 livery details. The fund of knowledge out there is enormous. Finally, on the shed-bunking theme. I only found two impossible - Bank Hall and Crewe North (of the ones I visited). My brother and I asked permission at Darlington, and the foreman, noting our 'southern' accents, showed us round. My mate and I got a clip round the ear at Shrewsbury one day, but that was on the way out! Imagine that today - 'railway foreman sacked for assaulting two schoolboys'. We only received 'flesh wounds' and told no one! Regards, Tony. 20 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2019 We did get into Crewe North once or twice but it was difficult and I think we got thrown out part way round anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted November 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2019 Dave Stone, Roger Swan and I did Portsmouth last year with Dave's Sherton Abbas. I have to agree that the hospitality is excellent - they even brought around three cooked breakfasts for us in the morning, while we were checking the layout over prior to doors open. The quality of the other layouts was very high, too, and looks to be maintained this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Barry Ten Posted November 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2019 Progress on my Midland clerestories: I think this shows the benefit of batch building as once I got into the groove of doing them, the chassis, bogies, bodies and roofs went together quite quickly. The roofs as supplied were banana-shaped but I found I could unbend them by immersion in hot water and some gentle persuasion back to the right shape. Once this was done, it was possible to clip the roofs into position as on the two nearly finished examples, so I can still get inside to add seats, glazing etc. I deliberately haven't replaced any of the moulded detail (and I've left off the brake shoes) as I felt that I would lose motivation if each coach became too complicated a job, Al 19 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Barry Ten said: I always solder the main chassis bearings in from the outside. If it's of interest. Comet specify the 1015 Mashima for the Dean Goods but there's ample room for the 1024, which gives a bit more torque at low speeds. Nice work Al, Thanks for showing us. I'm sure I've posted the following images before (though it could well have been over a thousand pages back!). Complete Comet replacements for an old Hornby Dean Goods. I gave this finished model to Simon Kohler. Did Hornby ever re-chassis the Dean 0-6-0? Regards, Tony. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, Barry Ten said: I felt that I would lose motivation if each coach became too complicated a job, Al Readily understood! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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