Tony Wright Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 hours ago, davidw said: Good evening Tony, I saw the V2 at Warley. The Bachmann rep I spoke to said it was completely redesigned. He spoke of multiple body tools and three different tenders. Sadly I didn't see it up close but the rep kindly showed me photos of it on his phone. My only comment is that the dome seems a little small. But it's light years ahead of the RTR offerings for a V2 that we've had in the past. Just a little left of field w.r.t coaches, with the likes of the 3d printing service offered by the likes of Isinglass and mousa models. Coaches only available from metal kits may be available in an alternative media. I appreciate that 3D printing is in it's infancy, but it may suit some and lower the weight of scale length trains. Good morning David, I've only glanced at the latest Isinglass 3D-printed Gresley stock, and, without doubt, it's far superior to what was first available. I made-up one of Andy Edgson's original GE Section BTKs and it wasn't very good (I'll see if I can find the pictures). The 'witness marks' were like a wash-board! The new 'alternative media' might well make any cars lighter than those constructed in 'traditional' brass/nickel silver/white metal, but I'm not sure they'll be for me. The Mousa Models single resin casting ex-GNR Brake Third I made turned out very well, and that medium suits paneled carriages very nicely, but it had to be glued together, and I don't really like glue! I also replaced the resin trussing with brass section because the former just broke as I cut it from the parent sprues. No, all-metal in my case, despite the weight. It's just a compatibility thing with me, I suppose. I've built very heavy trains (I don't add weight, by the way), and I build heavy (and powerful) locos to pull them. For those more-reliant on RTR motive power, then the new media might just be what's needed. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, 30368 said: I'm sure we will all enjoy it Tony. I know I did. Kind regards, Richard B That's very kind of you, Richard, Many thanks. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Cracked on with the O2 conversion today, just need to put the handrails back on, paint the buffer beams, some transfers and a nice heavy weathering. by the way, anyone know where I can get handrails for the tender and cab side? Edited December 10, 2019 by Jesse Sim 14 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jesse Sim said: Cracked on with the O2 conversion today, just need to put the handrails back on, paint the buffer beams, some transfers and a nice heavy weathering. by the way, anyone know where I can get handrails for the tender and cab side? It looks excellent Jesse, Well done. Short handrail pillars and .45mm nickel silver wire, available from Wizard/Comet, Alan Gibson or Markits. I should have thought when you were here - I've got loads. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: It looks excellent Jesse, Well done. Short handrail pillars and .45mm nickel silver wire, available from Wizard/Comet, Alan Gibson or Markits. I should have thought when you were here - I've got loads. Regards, Tony. You’ve already helped a tremendous amount Tony, you started the tender kit and gave me the pieces to finish it off, sourcing handrails myself won’t be a trouble at all. I think it turned out rather nice don’t you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerron Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Jesse, 0.45mm nickel silver wire and handrail knobs from Wizard Models will do the job. I see Tony beat me to the punch! Edited December 10, 2019 by nerron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Tony Wright said: why do folk - not you - use the contraction 'it's' rather than the possessive 'its'? I've never knowingly got this wrong, but I can understand probably more than any other grammatical spelling mistake why people do. Where is the the logic of saying "john's, Christine's, the people's, all in the possessive mode by adding an apostrophe before the "s" but when it comes to a logically identical case of possession for an inanimate object (but only for the pronoun, mind you) , it becomes "its" without the apostrophe. You've got to admit that it's logic gone bananas. Even a banana skin is a banana's skin.... but it's "its skin" when using the pronoun. Nuts. But I still follow this same illogical rule. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted December 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Clem said: I've never knowingly got this wrong, but I can understand probably more than any other grammatical spelling mistake why people do. Where is the the logic of saying "john's, Christine's, the people's, all in the possessive mode by adding an apostrophe before the "s" but when it comes to a logically identical case of possession for an inanimate object (but only for the pronoun, mind you) , it becomes "its" without the apostrophe. You've got to admit that it's logic gone bananas. Even a banana skin is a banana's skin.... but it's "its skin" when using the pronoun. Nuts. But I still follow this same illogical rule. I was taught that with ‘its’, the apostrophe is added when it can also be written in full as ‘it is’. So “Its skin” refers to the skin of the banana in your example, but “It’s skin” could be used elsewhere if clarifying that it is skin (rather than something else). The auto-correct function on my iPad doesn’t always get it right, so it’s often necessary to correct its intervention. 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted December 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: In the top example, could the rear lubricator be slightly bigger? Both lubricators look the same to me, except that the rear one appears to additionally have a lid on it, or something similar. Edited December 10, 2019 by Chamby Added ‘to me’ because others might see it differently... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Chamby said: I was taught that with ‘its’, the apostrophe is added when it can also be written in full as ‘it is’. So “Its skin” refers to the skin of the banana in your example, but “It’s skin” could be used elsewhere if clarifying that it is skin (rather than something else). The auto-correct function on my iPad doesn’t always get it right, so it’s often necessary to correct its intervention. Yes I agree. I was taught the same but for once, I understand why some people get confused. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 15 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Thanks for all your recent comments, Alan, Good to have you on here. Thanks Tony - I tend to post my progress mainly on the N Gauge Forum, but always read this thread for inspiration of folks building things, and see what kit you are rattling through building at any particular time! As I know you like seeing similar, a couple of snaps of my current projects for you - N gauge remember, so cruel enlargements: Southern region Z class 0-8-0 tank - one of 3 I've been asked to build with specific details relating to specific class members: Back on the eastern, I am coming close to finishing a second of Steve's (Atso) D49s - and yes, the valve gear is wrong, but I'm leaving it until a credible alternative can be thought of (origin is Dapol Schools class RTR chassis)! Cheers, Alan 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) I get confused when you have a person's name ending in an s. So if you wanted to write Giles' train is it correct to have the apostrophe where I've put it? What happens if two friends both called Giles each had a part share of a locomotive? Edited December 10, 2019 by Anglian Other posts beat me to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Anglian said: I get confused when you have a person's name ending in an s. So if you wanted to write Giles' train is it correct to have the apostrophe where I've put it? What happens if two friends both called Giles each had a part share of a locomotive? No. Surely it's Giles's. The second part is too unlikely! Edited December 10, 2019 by Clem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Jesse Sim said: You’ve already helped a tremendous amount Tony, you started the tender kit and gave me the pieces to finish it off, sourcing handrails myself won’t be a trouble at all. I think it turned out rather nice don’t you think? It has! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Clem said: I've never knowingly got this wrong, but I can understand probably more than any other grammatical spelling mistake why people do. Where is the the logic of saying "john's, Christine's, the people's, all in the possessive mode by adding an apostrophe before the "s" but when it comes to a logically identical case of possession for an inanimate object (but only for the pronoun, mind you) , it becomes "its" without the apostrophe. You've got to admit that it's logic gone bananas. Even a banana skin is a banana's skin.... but it's "its skin" when using the pronoun. Nuts. But I still follow this same illogical rule. Thanks Clem, It is bananas! On travelling along the Norfolk lanes one day between here and our younger son in Norwich, Mo and I chuckled at a rustic sign proclaiming DEANS LOG'S! Grammar has been mentioned on here many times before, and I know it's a sensitive subject to some. I know I commit too many bloopers, but it's easily done. Where I do find it 'important' is where if one (the generic 'one') is making a case, often slightly contentious (me?), its impact is lessened if the English it's written in is grammatically-ambiguous. However, I hope that doesn't put folk off posting. That would never do! Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 44 minutes ago, Anglian said: I get confused when you have a person's name ending in an s. So if you wanted to write Giles' train is it correct to have the apostrophe where I've put it? What happens if two friends both called Giles each had a part share of a locomotive? My head hurts! Regards, Tony. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted December 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Thanks Clem, It is bananas! On travelling along the Norfolk lanes one day between here and our younger son in Norwich, Mo and I chuckled at a rustic sign proclaiming DEANS LOG'S! Grammar has been mentioned on here many times before, and I know it's a sensitive subject to some. I know I commit too many bloopers, but it's easily done. Where I do find it 'important' is where if one (the generic 'one') is making a case, often slightly contentious (me?), its impact is lessened if the English it's written in is grammatically-ambiguous. However, I hope that doesn't put folk off posting. That would never do! Regards, Tony. I've never been irritated much less offended, I just take it as more knowledge and try to do better. Before moving to Wales I lived around the corner from 'Green's Close', or was it 'Greens Close'. The signs were different on opposite sides of the road... Many years ago I learned a little Italian. Our teacher, a young Italian girl, was genuinely surprised at our lack of knowledge of the 'mechanics' of English. Mind you she could also speak Spanish, German French and Russian... My wife's son is another linguist. He is fluent and colloquial in Japanese and is currently undertaking an intensive course in Arabic. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 It's all the fault of the Normans for bringing French features into the English language, on top of the established features from the Germanic family of languages. Hence we now have words ending in 's' to denote possession (a Germanic feature I believe) and words ending in 's' to denote the plural (French). It would have been much easier to stick to 'en' for plurals, as in oxen and children, eliminating the possessive apostrophe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: It looks excellent Jesse, Well done. Short handrail pillars and .45mm nickel silver wire, available from Wizard/Comet, Alan Gibson or Markits. I should have thought when you were here - I've got loads. Regards, Tony. I've got some 0.45mm brass wire, Slaters I think. You're welcome to a length or two. I might even have some handrail pillars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: Thanks Clem, It is bananas! On travelling along the Norfolk lanes one day between here and our younger son in Norwich, Mo and I chuckled at a rustic sign proclaiming DEANS LOG'S! Grammar has been mentioned on here many times before, and I know it's a sensitive subject to some. I know I commit too many bloopers, but it's easily done. Where I do find it 'important' is where if one (the generic 'one') is making a case, often slightly contentious (me?), its impact is lessened if the English it's written in is grammatically-ambiguous. However, I hope that doesn't put folk off posting. That would never do! Regards, Tony. Over here apostrophes in place names, street names and the like were abolished years ago, which makes life simpler but does result in oddities such as Frenchs Forest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 How does "Dave's Dad's dog's dead" stack up? (once used as an excuse for why 'Dave' didn't turn up for work one day) 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arun Sharma Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Clem said: Yes I agree. I was taught the same but for once, I understand why some people get confused. It's really very simple - "Its" is a Possessive Pronoun therefore by definition it doesn't require an apostrophe. "It's" is an abbreviation for "It is" where the apostrophe represents the missing letter. By combining the two words into one, the apostrophe more accurately replicates how the word is pronounced in normal speech. If you miss out the apostrophe, then it allows you to add emphasis in speech on to one or other of the two words - as you wish. My generation learnt all of this in school and the use of the apostrophe is second nature. "Dave's dad's dog's dead" is a nonsense as "dog's dead" isn't an acceptable abbreviation [in the written form of english] for "dog is dead". Just because what you hear sounds like that, doesn't mean that you can write it like that. In the days when dictation and comprehension still formed part of scholastic testing of english in exams, that would be a fail - whatever part of the country you lived in. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted December 10, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2019 Hi Tony, Thinking back to a conversation earlier this year in which you recommended the Poppy’s Woodtech jig for chassis building, I am a bout to finally get round to ordering one one before I start my next loco build. bit I have a question to clarify before I do. Given they are available in several different lengths, is there any down side in just buying the biggest version available? Or are smaller versions better suited to different chassis lengths? my expectation is that most of what I will build will be six coupled. However there will be at least one 4 coupled loco next year (Bulldog) and at some point in the future there’s a good chance of building something that is longer (I fancy a WD 2-10-0 as a one day build...) So given it’s only a couple of pounds extra I was thinking I should just buy the 5 axle version. Before I do I just wanted to check there are no downsides Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Fatadder said: Hi Tony, Thinking back to a conversation earlier this year in which you recommended the Poppy’s Woodtech jig for chassis building, I am a bout to finally get round to ordering one one before I start my next loco build. bit I have a question to clarify before I do. Given they are available in several different lengths, is there any down side in just buying the biggest version available? Or are smaller versions better suited to different chassis lengths? my expectation is that most of what I will build will be six coupled. However there will be at least one 4 coupled loco next year (Bulldog) and at some point in the future there’s a good chance of building something that is longer (I fancy a WD 2-10-0 as a one day build...) So given it’s only a couple of pounds extra I was thinking I should just buy the 5 axle version. Before I do I just wanted to check there are no downsides Good afternoon Rich, Regarding the Poppy's Wood jig, any chassis can be built on the largest one, whatever the number of drivers it has. It's not the same the other way around. Regards, Tony. Edited December 10, 2019 by Tony Wright typo error 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Every day's a school day, as the saying goes; or should that be everyday's? Or, everyday is.........? I've just found out that the lubricators really aren't in line on the V2s (all you kit-makers have got it wrong!) and that the cab roof ventilators are opposite to each other in the way they open. And yet I was consulted as a so-called 'expert' on such matters to pass on my findings. 'Head' and 'big' spring to mind! 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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