StephenB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 It’s amazing the topics that get covered here, but how did we come to be discussing prostate cancer and the PSA test? As one who has had the disease, and been successfully treated, it is good to see the topic being raised. The PSA test is extremely accurate but it’s what is done with the results that seems to be the problem. We have yet to arrive at a definitive test for diagnosis. It’s not known how many men will die with prostate cancer rather than of the disease without ever knowing but the number is large, believe me. Stephen 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/prostate-cancer/should-i-have-psa-test/ So it isn't very good then, misses quite a few and 75% negative. Need a more accurate test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2020 Anyone heard from Jesse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, MJI said: So it isn't very good then, misses quite a few and 75% negative. Need a more accurate test. There you go, something to do in your spare time find a better test, I am sure everyone would like a more reliable test. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 hours ago, MJI said: Anyone heard from Jesse? My last communication from him was on New Year's Eve/Day. He was very drunk, but fine! Regards, Tony. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 My first New Year's modelling project - three scratch-built N/2mm wagons. Only just started but can you tell what they'll be yet? 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 hours ago, MJI said: So it isn't very good then, misses quite a few and 75% negative. Need a more accurate test. Better not to regard it as a cancer test but as a sign of several potential issues, one of which is cancer. 15% cancer detection failure rate is not great but is probably better than the early detection rate without a test (probably closer to nil). A friend of mine's brother is probably alive today because he had a PSA blood test in his mid-fifties. That led to further investigation and the diagnosis of aggressive prostate cancer which was exhibiting no obvious symptoms. He was treated successfully, and just in time. His brother then had a test too and is on active monitoring as a result. I think it's a worthwhile test and is better than nothing. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 hours ago, MJI said: Anyone heard from Jesse? He’s been enjoying his three week holiday with Dirt Bike riding, going to the beach, wake boarding, having a few drinks and swimming in mine and my mates pools, enjoying the hot weather with my doggo. 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: My last communication from him was on New Year's Eve/Day. He was very drunk, but fine! Regards, Tony. And I have very little recollection of that night......... I think it had something to do with Tequila.... Apologies again Tony. I’ve got another week off till I’m back at work, I’m hoping to spend it in the train room, I’m sure I’ll have some updates by then. Happy New Year to all on Wright Writes. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: My last communication from him was on New Year's Eve/Day. He was very drunk, but fine! Regards, Tony. Ah, so highly flammable then 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Good Morning all, Have you seen Hornby have announced A2/2 and two versions of W1!!!!! Regards Eric 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Its pleasing to see people talking about prostate cancer. I wouldn't have known I had prostate cancer without annual PSA tests from age 50. I was also in a high risk group with both my father and maternal grandfather having had prostate cancer (each of which doubles my chance of having it). I had a slightly elevated PSA for my age when I was about 58, so the GP referred me to a urologist. He suggested a biopsy, although there were no physical indications I had a problem. The biopsy showed two small spots of cancer cells, so my PSA was monitored 3 monthly for 12 months with minimal change and then I had a further biopsy which found a few more spots of cancer cells, so I made the decision to have my prostate removed which occurred early in 2015. I didn't require any further treatment but have regular PSA tests, which are now on a 6 monthly frequency. PSA tests might not be the best answer for monitoring for prostate cancer but its probably the best we have at the moment. Too many men aren't prepared to talk about their health but its important that we do, particularly if we want to see our grandchildren grow up and to complete the vast store of unmade kits that many of us have! I became a member of what we call 'The Wednesday Club' when I took early retirement at 56. 'The Wednesday Club' was a group of 6 BRMA members and one former member who operate each others railways on a weekly rotational basis. Apart from railways we regularly talk about our health issues. The group now comprises only 5 as 2 have passed away over the last couple of years. I'm the youngest by quite a few years! Andrew 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Sorry, and A2/3. Other ‘big models’ as well. regrards Eric 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: There you go, something to do in your spare time find a better test, I am sure everyone would like a more reliable test. I will leave that to the scientists, I am in IT, this is something for people cleverer than me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, robertcwp said: Better not to regard it as a cancer test but as a sign of several potential issues, one of which is cancer. 15% cancer detection failure rate is not great but is probably better than the early detection rate without a test (probably closer to nil). A friend of mine's brother is probably alive today because he had a PSA blood test in his mid-fifties. That led to further investigation and the diagnosis of aggressive prostate cancer which was exhibiting no obvious symptoms. He was treated successfully, and just in time. His brother then had a test too and is on active monitoring as a result. I think it's a worthwhile test and is better than nothing. I had one a couple of years ago due to a peeing issue. It just went away on its own or was it antibiotics, memory fails me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, Woodcock29 said: Its pleasing to see people talking about prostate cancer. I wouldn't have known I had prostate cancer without annual PSA tests from age 50. I was also in a high risk group with both my father and maternal grandfather having had prostate cancer (each of which doubles my chance of having it). I had a slightly elevated PSA for my age when I was about 58, so the GP referred me to a urologist. He suggested a biopsy, although there were no physical indications I had a problem. The biopsy showed two small spots of cancer cells, so my PSA was monitored 3 monthly for 12 months with minimal change and then I had a further biopsy which found a few more spots of cancer cells, so I made the decision to have my prostate removed which occurred early in 2015. I didn't require any further treatment but have regular PSA tests, which are now on a 6 monthly frequency. PSA tests might not be the best answer for monitoring for prostate cancer but its probably the best we have at the moment. Too many men aren't prepared to talk about their health but its important that we do, particularly if we want to see our grandchildren grow up and to complete the vast store of unmade kits that many of us have! I became a member of what we call 'The Wednesday Club' when I took early retirement at 56. 'The Wednesday Club' was a group of 6 BRMA members and one former member who operate each others railways on a weekly rotational basis. Apart from railways we regularly talk about our health issues. The group now comprises only 5 as 2 have passed away over the last couple of years. I'm the youngest by quite a few years! Andrew I had the bowel screening. I was inflated, camera used, biopsy taken, farted a lot afterwards. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted January 6, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Erichill16 said: Good Morning all, Have you seen Hornby have announced A2/2 and two versions of W1!!!!! Regards Eric I have, But I knew already! I've assisted Hornby in the development of the A2/2 and A2/3 models. Not in a major way; just meetings with the designer, poring over photographs, books and drawings and loaning models. I've also loaned books and documents. Am I the ultimate model railway hypocrite? What is one to do? I'm regularly approached by manufacturers for assistance in the research regarding new products. If it's an RTR manufacturer, do I say 'I'm a builder. If I help you (in a minor way), it'll mean the end of an equivalent kit?' No doubt it will, though I still have Thompson Pacific kits to build, and the W1! That's the irony, really. RTR Thompson Pacifics or the W1 will be of little use to me At least the A1/1 and A2/1s are still 'safe'. But for how long? Who would have thought it? RTR models of Thompson Pacifics! Models of locos like these..................... Please (all) observe copyright restrictions. Regards, Tony. Edited January 6, 2020 by Tony Wright to clarify a point 21 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Erichill16 said: Good Morning all, Have you seen Hornby have announced A2/2 and two versions of W1!!!!! Regards Eric Actually A2/2, A2/3 and all 3 versions of W1 (Hush Hush, skirted streamlined LNER and BR!) Be interesting Tony to hear your comments on the models down the track! Of course I don't expect they will go anywhere near pulling a train of 13 kit built coaches! Edit comment - of course the posts above were all made whilst I was trying to get onto the Hornby site and then writing my short post! Andrew Edited January 6, 2020 by Woodcock29 additional comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 In the 80s I would buy Hornby and Lima models and repaint them as I could produce a better model. In the 90s I bought white metal kits of prototypes that weren’t available rtr, some of which I made. Though I enjoyed the projects, they seem crude when compared to the recent rtr release. I know the mantra is ‘it’s my model’ but with some respects I wanted something different. I seldom buy kits now as I know if I wait long enough a rtr model will turn up and will be infinitely better than what I can made. My wife grumbles when she buys something full price and sees it in the sale a week later. I tell her to wear it straight away so as to get the ‘benefit‘ of paying full price. In my stash I’ve still got another N5 and a J6 to make but I think I’d better get my skates on to get the ‘benefit’ I started buying and making industrial loco lately but even rtr models of them are starting to appear. Don’t get me wrong, I still do a great deal of modelling but not building loco kits. That’s enough for now, work to do and then perhaps some modelling later. regards Eric 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Jesse Sim said: He’s been enjoying his three week holiday with Dirt Bike riding, going to the beach, wake boarding, having a few drinks and swimming in mine and my mates pools, enjoying the hot weather with my doggo. And I have very little recollection of that night......... I think it had something to do with Tequila.... Apologies again Tony. I’ve got another week off till I’m back at work, I’m hoping to spend it in the train room, I’m sure I’ll have some updates by then. Happy New Year to all on Wright Writes. Make sure you're fit to drive trains on 18/1/20! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: I have, But I knew already! I've assisted Hornby in the development of the A2/2 and A2/3 models. Not in a major way; just meetings with the designer, poring over photographs, books and drawings and loaning models. I've also loaned books and documents. Am I the ultimate model railway hypocrite? What is one to do? I'm regularly approached by manufacturers for assistance in the research regarding new products. If it's an RTR manufacturer, do I say 'I'm a builder. If I help you (in a minor way), it'll mean the end of an equivalent kit?' No doubt it will, though I still have Thompson Pacific kits to build, and the W1! That's the irony, really. RTR Thompson Pacifics or the W1 will be of little use to me At least the A1/1 and A2/1s are still 'safe'. But for how long? Who would have thought it? RTR models of Thompson Pacifics! Models of locos like these..................... Please (all) observe copyright restrictions. Regards, Tony. Hello Tony Now who was it that told me there would never be a RTR Thompson Pacific, I can't quite recall but I think that person posted such on this very thread. Did you know about the BR Standard Class 2 as well, especially as you sold me the parts of a cab for one so I could convert a Bachmann Ivatt Class 2. That is a nice surprise and the only thing on the announcement that I will be buying. As for your photos, behind 60503 is an early BR RMB, there are not many photos showing these before they were altered to conform with the others. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2020 Looking at DJH's range, quite a lot of stuff that's come out in RTR is still available (and in some cases, has been returned to the range after being unavaiilable) such as S15s, WD 2-8-0s, Duchesses, Halls, DoGs, 7Fs (small and large boiler) etc so perhaps there is enough of a customer base to keep these models afloat. Personally I've come around to the idea that I'd rather build something myself if it's an option, and the kit is within my ability, if only because I like the heavy, chunky feeling of a kit. For that reason I'd rather build a DJH Duchess than buy a new Hornby one, but I'll take Hornby's Princess over the Brassmasters one (assuming it's still available). I must say I thought Hornby's announcements were very bold and a good indicator for the health of the hobby. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) I'm glad to see the ATP-P - DJM was supposed to be doing that but we all knows what happened there! Edited January 6, 2020 by Bucoops DJM not DJH! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 Definitely a good announcement from Hornby for the LNER and BR(E) enthusiast. An interesting choice with the A2/2 and 2/3... of much more specialised historical interest than the more widespread and preserved A3, A4 or Tornado. As an avid Eastern Region enthusiast, but modelling away from the ECML, even I won’t be needing many of Thompson’s Pacifics! I’m surprised Hornby haven’t announced more versions of the P2, that would have seemed a ‘quick win’ given that they already have much of the tooling. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Interesting thing: https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2020/2710-mr-no-1-centenary-year-limited-edition-1920.html Looks suspiciously like 3 rail tinplate?! I suspect it's not prototypically accurate mind, bit of a step back Edited January 6, 2020 by Bucoops 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bucoops said: I suspect it's not prototypically accurate mind, bit of a step back I dunno. It's a centenary product so it's a model of what trains looked like 100 years ago. ;-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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