Tony Wright Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, micklner said: Some of the last few posts make me realise why there is so much abuse and mickey taking aimed at so called self proclaimed titled "Railway Modellers" by the general public. The attitude shown is so over the top it is embarrising to read . If people want to run anything on a layout , that is their choice no one elses , does it hurt anybody and does it really matter ?? No it simply does'nt !!.Its playing trains at the end of the day, nothing more or less . Everybody has standards in model railways as in anything else in life. What is seriously wrong with a young lad asking to run his pride and joy of a Model railway layout ?? why or what is funny?? . The attitude and the smirks probably sent him away ,never bothering to ever go to another exhibition again. We should be encouraging youngsters not taking the mickey out of them . Some people seriously to look at themselves and their attitudes. Mick, I think it's important that youngsters (and others) are encouraged in their railway modelling, and that mickey-taking only works if it's mutual. You say it's embarrassing for you to read some recent posts (possibly some of mine?) and it doesn't matter what anyone runs on their layout. With regard to the latter point, I'm in complete agreement, but I think there is a much greater responsibility at shows to get things 'right'. Not in the 'hair-shirt' sense, where nothing ever gets finished because of the zeal for absolute accuracy, but on two levels in my opinion. Firstly, we should display what's been made/modified, not just something bought. Tony Gee took issue with my criticism (he has every right to) of a scene where a straight-out-of-the-box loco was literally plonked on a very nicely-modelled (my emphasis) railway. It was entirely incongruous in my view - tantamount to having beautifully made and accurate locos/stock running on perfect track, through realistic scenery, where someone has just plonked down an inappropriate, and unaltered RTP building. Secondly, the whole scene should be believable, inasmuch as it's accurate to period and place. Nobody has the right to dictate what anyone does with regard to their model railway in the privacy of their own home (I don't believe anyone has suggested that, by the way). However, if an individual or club has their 'work' on display at a show (where folk have spent money in order to see it), then I believe there is a much greater responsibility with regard to 'modelling' and accuracy. It really doesn't matter whether folk know if something has been actually made or is accurate or not (they'll enjoy it, anyway), but to those 'in the know' so to speak, it'll give great satisfaction if things are made and are correct, and, surely, it's also about education. Finally, I wonder just where this thread would go if all posters took the attitude that "It really doesn't matter whether I make anything (I'll just buy it or get others to do my modelling for me), I won't care whether anything I make is accurate or not and I won't be 'critical' (however constructively) of any model I see in case some are embarrassed". I've found out far more about my own modelling limitations because of critical observation/comment than any sycophancy or anyone not wanting to 'offend'. With that in mind, I learned what a 'snowflake' was the other day. Regards, Tony. Regards, Tony. Edited March 9, 2020 by Tony Wright 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, t-b-g said: Surely any decent photographer would have sorted out the signals and points before pressing the shutter! Portraying correct operation is just as important as correct locos. I would think it's the responsibility of the layout owner/operator to ensure these things are correct just as much as the photographer. If the layout owner wants their layout to be portrayed in a favorable light then they should be just as much on the ball as the person taking the photos. Having had Tony taking photographs of one of my own layouts I can certainly say that he is very professional in the way that he captures his images. Yes, he questions what he sees before him but this is always given in a constructive manner. He also makes it quite clear how the images will be used. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, t-b-g said: I am sure that if people had any idea that the photos you take are going to be used on a public forum to draw attention to what they have done wrong, they may not be quite so keen on you taking them. Criticism that has been requested is one thing, belittling the work of others by calling it "unacceptable" is another. I see much that is wrong either on individual models or on layouts. I will sometimes offer comment in a private way, not drawing the attention of others to the fault, or if I am asked to comment, I will mention things. In your photo above, I can see a couple of things that I would regard as worse than running a RTR loco. Surely any decent photographer would have sorted out the signals and points before pressing the shutter! Portraying correct operation is just as important as correct locos. We all get things wrong sometimes and having our mistakes pointed out to us is bad enough. To have them described as "unacceptable" is a step too far for me. Bravo Tony, 'Surely any decent photographer would have sorted out the signals and points before pressing the shutter! Portraying correct operation is just as important as correct locos.' Exactly the constructive criticism I seek. The picture which first sparked off this debate will not be used, by the way. The reason (in consultation with others) is because it doesn't show the layout in the 'best light'. It is, therefore, unacceptable. Regards, Tony. Edited March 9, 2020 by Tony Wright typo error 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted March 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LNERandBR said: I would think it's the responsibility of the layout owner/operator to ensure these things are correct just as much as the photographer. If the layout owner wants their layout to be portrayed in a favorable light then they should be just as much on the ball as the person taking the photos. Having had Tony taking photographs of one of my own layouts I can certainly say that he is very professional in the way that he captures his images. Yes, he questions what he sees before him but this is always given in a constructive manner. He also makes it quite clear how the images will be used. Tony W has photographed some of my layouts too and produced some lovely photos. That is why I am surprised that he didn't notice the positioning of the trains, signals and points. He usually has a really good eye for spotting such things and making a scene look as realistic as possible by putting them right. I would hope that we know each other well enough to have a degree of mutual respect, even if we don't always agree on everything. I am very much in favour of firstly models that have been made rather than bought and secondly of making every effort to produce a scene that, even if it is of a fictitious place, doesn't include any glaring faults that would never have happened on the real thing. I just don't like the use of the term "unacceptable". I had a boss who used it often at work in the days when I had a real job. If you really think about it, the word is almost meaningless in the context of a layout. Something is either right or it isn't. A layout either has faults or it doesn't. As we all have different things that we will accept or not, there is no measure of what is acceptable. Edited March 9, 2020 by t-b-g 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, t-b-g said: Tony W has photographed some of my layouts too and produced some lovely photos. That is why I am surprised that he didn't notice the positioning of the trains, signals and points. He usually has a really good eye for spotting such things and making a scene look as realistic as possible by putting them right. I would hope that we know each other well enough to have a degree of mutual respect, even if we don't always agree on everything. Thanks Tony, Do I have any excuses? Probably, but they're tenuous...... I was rushed for time (the pictures were taken at a show), I was getting tired and the signals didn't work. That said, I should have shoved that 'Arthur' back! Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headstock Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Thanks Tony, Do I have any excuses? Probably, but they're tenuous...... I was rushed for time (the pictures were taken at a show), I was getting tired and the signals didn't work. That said, I should have shoved that 'Arthur' back! Regards, Tony. Good evening Tony, it's rather a shame about the controversial Atlantic image. The layouts scenic modelling is stunning and the photograph itself is a rather a lovely composition. Two bits of creativity are worth celebrating I think. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 51 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Mick, I think it's important that youngsters (and others) are encouraged in their railway modelling, and that mickey-taking only works if it's mutual. You say it's embarrassing for you to read some recent posts (possibly some of mine?) and it doesn't matter what anyone runs on their layout. With regard to the latter point, I'm in complete agreement, but I think there is a much greater responsibility at shows to get things 'right'. Not in the 'hair-shirt' sense, where nothing ever gets finished because of the zeal for absolute accuracy, but on two levels in my opinion. Firstly, we should display what's been made/modified, not just something bought. Tony Gee took issue with my criticism (he has every right to) of a scene where a straight-out-of-the-box loco was literally plonked on a very nicely-modelled (my emphasis) railway. It was entirely incongruous in my view - tantamount to having beautifully made and accurate locos/stock running on perfect track, through realistic scenery, where someone has just plonked down an inappropriate, and unaltered RTP building. Secondly, the whole scene should be believable, inasmuch as it's accurate to period and place. Nobody has the right to dictate what anyone does with regard to their model railway in the privacy of their own home (I don't believe anyone has suggested that, by the way). However, if an individual or club has their 'work' on display at a show (where folk have spent money in order to see it), then I believe there is a much greater responsibility with regard to 'modelling' and accuracy. It really doesn't matter whether folk know if something has been actually made or is accurate or not (they'll enjoy it, anyway), but to those 'in the know' so to speak, it'll give great satisfaction if things are made and are correct, and, surely, it's also about education. Finally, I wonder just where this thread would go if all posters took the attitude that "It really doesn't matter whether I make anything (I'll just buy it or get others to do my modelling for me), I won't care whether anything I make is accurate or not and I won't be 'critical' (however constructively) of any model I see in case some are embarrassed". I've found out far more about my own modelling limitations because of critical observation/comment than any sycophancy or anyone not wanting to 'offend'. With that in mind, I learned what a 'snowflake' was the other day. Regards, Tony. Regards, Tony. Tony It wasnt aimed at you in particular , but when you read some of the comments made earlier I had to make a serious reply . In my opinion Model Railways is a kind of Holy Grail to some people , who in some cases also like to give the impression only they know, what they are doing etc etc, its all been said on here and elsewhere time and time again. As to some of the said self appointed experts/keyboard warriors , I have never seen one photo of what they have ever made. Where everything shown no matter by whom it , is criticised ad nauseum, no matter how trivial the fault, why do people need to do that ? it achieves very little 99% of the time. Model railways are supposed to be a hobby, the same as any other ,where people are simply supposed to enjoy making things or whatever they do relating to their chosen hobby. It isnt about the attitude ,I need to be the winning, I am clever than you in the points contest created by some, and why not add on some sarcastic comments to give them even more pathetic added pleasure at the same time. I have always thought that any exhibtion is supposed to be fun , why does everything have to be how a real railway is/was run ? where is that rule written down ? how may people actually go so deep into the subject to have this extreme concern ?. I have no idea how many and I dont need to know either, and I am sure the punter with his kids having a day out are blissfully unaware of such intracies or bothered/ expect them to be present , I know I dont. If something runs well and looks good, thats enough for me perhaps I am too "normal" in my attitude? I agree re kits being made, I have been doing them for far too many years, on all kinds of subjects. That does'nt stop me buying r.t.r if i want it , and being grateful for the time saved and in some cases they are far better items than I could ever manage to produce , with some of the prehestoric kits still being sold at inflated prices. As I have said before on here each to their own and enjoy, lifes too short . Mick 6 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 59 minutes ago, Headstock said: Good evening Tony, it's rather a shame about the controversial Atlantic image. The layouts scenic modelling is stunning and the photograph itself is a rather a lovely composition. Two bits of creativity are worth celebrating I think. Agreed and a beautifully made Loco as well, I ignore tension locks !! . Well done to Bachmann in this case. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 4 hours ago, zr2498 said: I have brushed it on coach sides and as John suggests it gives another step in the weathering process. I also airbrush it on when there has to be a very even or thin coat. No problem to air brush - usually 2 or 3 very fine mists. Cleaning of the airbrush - use Windolene which works a treat. Dave Must admit, was wondering ‘floor polish through my airbrush?. How am I going to clean it?’ Now I know. regards Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headstock Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, micklner said: Agreed and a beautifully made Loco as well, I ignore tension locks !! . Well done to Bachmann in this case. Evening Mick, it is a beautifully looking locomotive. However, I would like to see much more of the creativity of the individuals who participants in the hobby displayed on this thread. There are many threads already on RM web that celebrate the beauty of such models. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted March 9, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) Having once been a teacher, I think the word 'acceptable' has great meaning; and equally 'unacceptable' when it comes to some behaviour. It's use is also most-pertinent in describing model railways as well in my view. For example.......... I built the MR/M&GNR girder bridge for Little Bytham 12 years ago. I had to 'accept' its limitations because, at the time, it had to do. The span was right, and the width, but the girder arrangement was wrong - limited by its being made from Airfix/Dapol parts and bits of brass section. Then, along came Jamie Guest and Dave Wager. Jamie did the CAD work for Grainge & Hodder to produce the etchings, and Dave has built it - it arrives complete tomorrow. Watch this space! Having put some of Jamie's etches together, Dave posted the parts to me last summer for me to test the fit (using my original deck). The fit was perfect. Tomorrow, the completed bridge will be installed. As I say, watch this space......... My most-grateful thanks to both chums, and equal thanks for turning something which was unacceptable into a work of art (I've seen pictures of the finished bridge). Edited March 9, 2020 by Tony Wright 27 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Sorry for delay in thanking everyone regarding the use of Kleen, too many to mention individually.Had a very busy day. Regards Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clem Posted March 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2020 I finished (construction of) the LMS hopper. I'm afraid it's a bit of a pig's ear of a job, but it is got me back into doing some modelling and it will just about pass muster in a rake of hoppers or 'a layout wagon' as you would say, Tony. I wish they made 3.5mm plastic channeling to use for the sole bars. I've had to use 1/8", take off the bottom protrusion and add a new one out of 5 thou plasticard and to be honest it hasn't turned out that well. Also I find flexibility of evergreen channel not helpful in getting true square and rigid under frames. These wagons have open frames and the next one I do, I'll in plan a bit more subtle support to keep it more true. Building these wagons is very labour intensive, particularly getting all the strapping and riveting in place. I could make 10 from kits in the time it takes to scratch build one of these, but nobody does them (subtle hint to any kit designer out there :-) ). I'll get it painted, along with the Charles Roberts conversion later this week. One thing making life a little more difficult is an unsteadiness in my left hand (particularly my index finger) which is starting to hamper fine detail work and has become more substantial in the last year. I'm trying to find a way of controlling it better. My right hand seems as steady as always. Andrew, thanks for the information about the way the photo of Leicester South Goods and O1 was lit. I think sometimes a photo can capture that little something extra and I thought that picture had it. I had already noticed the significance of the directional lighting and it was one of the things which made a difference. I may be looking at a new camera sometime later on this year so I can take better photos. I'll need one that I can close the aperture right down to increase depth of field. I'll have to do a fair amount of research to see what's available unless anyone has any recommendations. I also have to look into stacking as I have never tried that. Tony, great photos as usual and plenty of interesting observations and conversations. 9 1 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: But it was advertised as a recreation of the ECML in the 1930s using the actual timetables. It wasn't at a general show for the public and I doubt many attendees weren't enthusiasts. BTW he was a lad in his forties, not a child and didn't seem to have any "issues", he was standing drinking pints at the bar. We call everyone lad around here. Jason Even so, how did/could you know whether or not the chap had some form of learning difficulties? Certainly there’s been a time or two on rmweb where I’ve read a comment from a poster that I’ve thought was monumentally inept, poorly written, terrible grammar, atrocious spelling etc but something has made me pause and think to check some of that poster’s other comments. Often I’ve realised that the person may well have some sort of learning impairment and I’ve bitten my tongue. David 2 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Headstock Posted March 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2020 Before the thread got a bit angsty, the topic of titivating RTR came up and the fear associated with such a course of action. I was thinking that a bit of customising of cheap plastic wagon kits might be more agreeable. I've recently been working on this old Ian Kirk Boplate that I picked up quite cheaply. There are no unobtainable parts required, a set of Gibson wheels, the superb specific buffers from LM&S, and a bunch of plasticard, brass strip or etch off cuts will do quite nicely. The needle beams are handrail knobs filed back to the shoulder and soldered to 0.8 mm brass rod. Two inner sets of needle beams and their turnbuckle trussing are still to be made up. I'm sure that other methods could be employed if solder makes people sad. For example, the bang plates are glued to the sole bars and then pined through with 4.5 mm brass wire, this conveniently provides a prototypical bolt head. The Boplate is the last of the models to be constructed for my Steel train, I also got a couple of cheap Kirk LMS double bolster, rather an elegant looking wagons and perfect for the photo reference I am working from. There will be plenty to keep me busy, with painting, heavy metal loads to sort out and the securing of the loads in a prototypical manor over the coming month. Every LNER or Eastern region layout should have at least one XB (BZ) as these NPC's were rampant across the railway network. This type of 6 wheel luggage break, built by the NER and the LNER possibly the most successful of the type. They were long-lived, lasting into the 60s in revenue service and later still in departmental service. They were allocated across the country and came in many variants, from luggage, to milk and stores vans, a CCT version named aeroplane van and even a genuine pigeon van version. These were actually deployed in large numbers to pigeon specials. Later versions had electric lighting, and they seem to have been well-loved. This is my second NER XB (BZ) build, though currently it looks more like a BY. NER build number one, conveyed the mysterious cargo described as 'bakery items' (pies or pie trays?) in the overnight Manchester Marylebone 'Mail', it was added to the train at Leicester. NER build no 2 is bound for the 5.22pm Leicester Woodford ordinary passenger train. As part of the trains' formation, it was a stores van, again added at Leicester, along with a non gangway third. The XB (BZ) was detached at Woodford, It worked on a cyclical diagram with two other stores vans between Gorton works, Nottingham, Leicester, Woodford and Marylebone and return. The other two vans working in the late forties and throughout the fifties were an ex GER XB (BZ), already built by myself, and an ex MSLR six wheel non gangway brake third, a really cool looking vehicle (is that too geeky for the General public, build it, and they will come) The ex NER XB, (BZ) remains one of my favourite bits of rolling stock, if you are modelling the LNER or the Eastern, North Eastern, Scottish or Midland regions of BR they are one for the essential list. 24 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headstock Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Clem said: I finished (construction of) the LMS hopper. I'm afraid it's a bit of a pig's ear of a job, but it is got me back into doing some modelling and it will just about pass muster in a rake of hoppers or 'a layout wagon' as you would say, Tony. I wish they made 3.5mm plastic channeling to use for the sole bars. I've had to use 1/8", take off the bottom protrusion and add a new one out of 5 thou plasticard and to be honest it hasn't turned out that well. Also I find flexibility of evergreen channel not helpful in getting true square and rigid under frames. These wagons have open frames and the next one I do, I'll in plan a bit more subtle support to keep it more true. Building these wagons is very labour intensive, particularly getting all the strapping and riveting in place. I could make 10 from kits in the time it takes to scratch build one of these, but nobody does them (subtle hint to any kit designer out there :-) ). I'll get it painted, along with the Charles Roberts conversion later this week. One thing making life a little more difficult is an unsteadiness in my left hand (particularly my index finger) which is starting to hamper fine detail work and has become more substantial in the last year. I'm trying to find a way of controlling it better. My right hand seems as steady as always. Andrew, thanks for the information about the way the photo of Leicester South Goods and O1 was lit. I think sometimes a photo can capture that little something extra and I thought that picture had it. I had already noticed the significance of the directional lighting and it was one of the things which made a difference. I may be looking at a new camera sometime later on this year so I can take better photos. I'll need one that I can close the aperture right down to increase depth of field. I'll have to do a fair amount of research to see what's available unless anyone has any recommendations. I also have to look into stacking as I have never tried that. Tony, great photos as usual and plenty of interesting observations and conversations. We need to replicate it somehow, with some sort of replicator. 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jwealleans Posted March 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2020 Quote I remember at Barrow Hill when they had the A4s there before they went back, they had a layout in the shed. Grantham I think it was and they were running a proper timetable. This lad came up and asked whether they could run his "new" loco. It was a Bachmann Class 37 in some modern livery such as EWS. It was us. Did we let him run it? I don't remember the incident (was it while I'd been carried off to thaw out somewhere?) but I'd have sent it round, assuming we had something it could couple up to. When I was with Thurston at Warley a few years ago we were next to the NRM stand who had their (then) brand new City of Truro with them. We sent it round every hour or so on a passenger all weekend. Got them some sales, got us some interest. I think people can suspend belief for a few moments. If they can't then they may be in danger of taking it too seriously. 21 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 37 minutes ago, jwealleans said: If they can't then they may be in danger of taking it too seriously. Unacceptably seriously, you might say. We are, after all, just talking about playing with train sets in the big scheme of things. Life throws up many of us a lot more concerns worth getting flustered over than that. Cheers Scott 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Thanks Tony, Do I have any excuses? Probably, but they're tenuous...... I was rushed for time (the pictures were taken at a show), I was getting tired and the signals didn't work. That said, I should have shoved that 'Arthur' back! Regards, Tony. Tony, loco ahead of signal? Sort of unofficially allowed on the Southern. Bill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Clem said: What a smashing model of a characterful prototype, well done sir! I actually like its slight wonkiness (forgive me, it's really not all that wonky!) it adds to the character, and avoids that weird fake look that overly precise plastic replicas have. Edited March 10, 2020 by Dr Gerbil-Fritters 3 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollar Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 08/03/2020 at 23:08, Tom F said: Thanks for the kind comments. The Klear was brushed on with a flat brush. I find Klear can be temperamental in it's behaviour on RTR surfaces, so I'm tending to use T-Cut more as can be seen on this model I weathered for a client. I don't get on here as much as I should, great to see you are busy Tony! Very nice piece of work indeed Do you apply the TCut with cotton buds or with scrubby brushes? If brushes - how do you clean them or do you use sweetshop ones and treat them as disposable? I've used TCut to produce a worn-looking finish on coaching stock but have always avoided locos until now for fear of serious accidents. Tone 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 34 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: I actually like its slight wonkiness (forgive me, it's really not all that wonky!) it adds to the character, and avoids that weird fake look that overly precise plastic replicas have. Wonkiness I can do well! :-) 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Clem said: I finished (construction of) the LMS hopper. I'm afraid it's a bit of a pig's ear of a job, but it is got me back into doing some modelling and it will just about pass muster in a rake of hoppers or 'a layout wagon' as you would say, Tony. I wish they made 3.5mm plastic channeling to use for the sole bars. I've had to use 1/8", take off the bottom protrusion and add a new one out of 5 thou plasticard and to be honest it hasn't turned out that well. Also I find flexibility of evergreen channel not helpful in getting true square and rigid under frames. These wagons have open frames and the next one I do, I'll in plan a bit more subtle support to keep it more true. Building these wagons is very labour intensive, particularly getting all the strapping and riveting in place. I could make 10 from kits in the time it takes to scratch build one of these, but nobody does them (subtle hint to any kit designer out there :-) ). I'll get it painted, along with the Charles Roberts conversion later this week. One thing making life a little more difficult is an unsteadiness in my left hand (particularly my index finger) which is starting to hamper fine detail work and has become more substantial in the last year. I'm trying to find a way of controlling it better. My right hand seems as steady as always. Andrew, thanks for the information about the way the photo of Leicester South Goods and O1 was lit. I think sometimes a photo can capture that little something extra and I thought that picture had it. I had already noticed the significance of the directional lighting and it was one of the things which made a difference. I may be looking at a new camera sometime later on this year so I can take better photos. I'll need one that I can close the aperture right down to increase depth of field. I'll have to do a fair amount of research to see what's available unless anyone has any recommendations. I also have to look into stacking as I have never tried that. Tony, great photos as usual and plenty of interesting observations and conversations. Of course Clem, you have made it in such a way that you can take it apart into convenient modules that will serve as patterns for mould-making and subsequent casting of copies in resin, haven't you..... Only kidding. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, jukebox said: Unacceptably seriously, you might say. We are, after all, just talking about playing with train sets in the big scheme of things. Life throws up many of us a lot more concerns worth getting flustered over than that. Cheers Scott That's all true, but I do feel that the terms of reference are different when we are exhibiting to the public, who've paid to come and see what we are showing. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 15 hours ago, Headstock said: it's rather a shame about the controversial Atlantic image. The layouts scenic modelling is stunning and the photograph itself is a rather a lovely composition. Two bits of creativity are worth celebrating I think. I agree; had I been at that exhibition I would have mentally noted that the condition of the Atlantic and when it was out of view, stayed to take in the rest of the exquisite modelling. Similarly, the one time I had the privilege (yes, I do mean that) of seeing "Chee Tor", there were one or two locos or items of stock whose RTR origins were still obvious. I let it pass because it is still the greatest example of railway modelling I have ever seen. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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