RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, t-b-g said: I am struggling to identify the prototype of the 4 wheeler. It doesn't look like one of "ours" (GNR/GCR). Is it the progenitor of the Hattons generic fleet? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, t-b-g said: The Howlden vehicles have much GNR character and I have a number of D & S kits stashed away There’s a nice fella in Australia that will gladly take them off your hands 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 32 minutes ago, t-b-g said: Perhaps we should build such things from wood rather than brass, plastic or resin, so we can model the rotting panels that such vehicles often show. I don't know if it is just me but building something deliberately "wonky" just doesn't come easily, even if I know that the prototype was like that in reality. Bent handrails or footplates on locos, grotty beading on carriages, it just never looks right on a model. No matter what photo evidence exists, it always looks more like shoddy workmanship. I am struggling to identify the prototype of the 4 wheeler. It doesn't look like one of "ours" (GNR/GCR). The Howlden vehicles have much GNR character and I have a number of D & S kits stashed away, which will form a GNR period set one day. Were the metal disk wheels common on these types? The ones I have seen have usually had the wooden type. Thanks Tony, I think the original prototype for the four-wheeler was ex-NBR (meaning it's a little further south than expected - in fact, a lot further south!). The wheels? They were stock items, but, you're right, they should probably be wooden-centred. An easy change. Wonky modelling? Probably been seen before, but still relevant. I can only conclude that one dome-fitter at Haymarket must have been particularly porcine! I'd never fit a handrail on a model as wonky as these........ Regards, Tony. 5 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: It's a transparency, and I've no idea how to scan it. I'll investigate, though it probably will mean breaking the 'curfew'! Regards, Tony. I can scan slides if necessary in any size up to A4. Postage to France wouldn't break quarantine rules. Jamie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, jamie92208 said: I can scan slides if necessary in any size up to A4. Postage to France wouldn't break quarantine rules. Jamie I'll have to see if I can find it. Many thanks Jamie. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Jesse Sim said: There’s a nice fella in Australia that will gladly take them off your hands Nasty Aussie wants my precious......... Well he can't have 'em 'cos they is mine! (Best said in a Gollum style hiss) Sorry Jesse, I still have one more 4mm layout in me and the GNR stock will be needed. Along with the stash of GCR kits and some Midland ones too. A few weeks at home might just see a bit of progress on it. It will be to the old "Manchester EM" standards, which are finer than present EM ones but will allow my more modern EM stuff to run on it too. Here is a little taster. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Thanks Tony, I think the original prototype for the four-wheeler was ex-NBR (meaning it's a little further south than expected - in fact, a lot further south!). The wheels? They were stock items, but, you're right, they should probably be wooden-centred. An easy change. Wonky modelling? Probably been seen before, but still relevant. I can only conclude that one dome-fitter at Haymarket must have been particularly porcine! I'd never fit a handrail on a model as wonky as these........ Regards, Tony. Just what I mean. Imagine having the nerve to make a nice straight handrail, all parallel and level and then do that to it. I just couldn't bring myself. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, t-b-g said: Just what I mean. Imagine having the nerve to make a nice straight handrail, all parallel and level and then do that to it. I just couldn't bring myself. Having spent a great deal of time recently, working through some large, on-line photo collections, I have been amazed at how often deformed boiler handrails appear. I struggle to think of how this damage could occur; the only situation that occurred to me - beside overweight cleaners - was the temporary tying-up of valvegear components as a consequence of a failure. Any thoughts, anyone? Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Flintoft Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 58 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Having spent a great deal of time recently, working through some large, on-line photo collections, I have been amazed at how often deformed boiler handrails appear. I struggle to think of how this damage could occur; the only situation that occurred to me - beside overweight cleaners - was the temporary tying-up of valvegear components as a consequence of a failure. Any thoughts, anyone? Regards, John Isherwood. I believe the handrail came in very useful for flinging a rope or block & tackle over whilst lifting heavy valve gear parts or con rods back into position . Cheers , Ray . 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Ray Flintoft said: I believe the handrail came in very useful for flinging a rope or block & tackle over whilst lifting heavy valve gear parts or con rods back into position . Cheers , Ray . Of course - makes eminent sense. I doubt that the shedmaster would have approved, though. I'd guess that there were a few tickings-off when the load proved too much for the handrail. Regards, John Isherwood. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobw Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Currently looking for a X9181 gear for a Hornby Stanier tank. I know they are like hens teeth. Does anyone know an alternative? Its the gear between the worm and the drive wheel gear. Mine ( like so many others ) is split. Thanks Bob UK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Has Hornby finally cracked the lack of haulage power in its steam-outline RTR locos? I've just finished photographing and writing my review of the latest Hornby 'Princess Royal'. Its haulage capacity is remarkable. Here it is on 14 kit-built bogies (and an RTR horsebox), which it's just walked away with. No Hornby A3 or A4 will touch this, nor Bachmann's Peppercorn Pacifics, either. At last! Here's the 'drive'. I have no idea whether this is different from what's gone before, but it's certainly impressive (it also includes a firebox glow). Is this the metal bodied anniversary one? If it is I can see Hornby and others going back 50 years making the likes of the A4 with a metal body Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted March 19, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) One side-effect of self-isolation is now far more time to spend on railway modelling, including, in my case, taking more pictures of Little Bytham. It seems to interest folk, so I'll try and present a new selection every couple of days. Here are today's offerings............... Class A2/3 60513 DANTE (DJH/Wright/Rathbone) heads an Up fast fitted freight through the station. The stock is a mixture of kit-built/modified/weathered RTR, some of which (believe it or not) is my work. Two shots of Class A2/2 60501 COCK O' THE NORTH (DJH/scratch/Wright/Rathbone) heading the morning Hull/York combined express (my work). Overall shots like this do show progress, though I really must complete the point rodding. 9Fs pass (both DJH kits) on respective Up full minerals and Down full cements. 92042 (painted/weathered by Geoff Haynes) has come off the Down slow to take the Down fast as far as Stoke. The coal train is the work of several of the team and the cement train is all Rob Kinsey's work. The fastest of them all, A4 60022 MALLARD (Pro-Scale/Peabody/Wright/Rathbone) heads the Down 'Northumbrian' (my work). I built this D9 from a McGowan kit for the 1938 event on Little Bytham in 2018. Geoff Haynes painted it. I'll keep it for the moment, but one future option is to change the dome to the lower sort and make it an immediate post-War example. Some D9s finished off on the M&GNR. Though I can't immediately find it, I have a shot in one of my books illustrating the M&GNR's last day, the end of February 1959. It shows this view (or I hope something very similar, though my flora is more summer-like), with an Ivatt 4MT heading over the girder bridge towards Bourne. The new girder bridge is just astonishingly-good. Thanks once again, Dave (and Jamie). Are others turning the time they've now got into making models and/or taking photographs? Edited March 19, 2020 by Tony Wright to clarify a point 36 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Theakerr said: Is this the metal bodied anniversary one? If it is I can see Hornby and others going back 50 years making the likes of the A4 with a metal body I think it's plastic....... The die-cast one will be a 'Duchess', 'recreating' what Hornby-Dublo did with its DUCHESS OF ATHOLL all those years ago. Regards, Tony. Edited March 19, 2020 by Tony Wright typo error 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: Are others turning the time they've now got into making models and/or taking photographs? I initially thought that I'd have plenty of modelling time - but being in charge of IT for a small but national company, suddenly a busy job has changed into a run ragged job whilst trying to increase the infrastructure to change from a few home users to over 100 on zero budget. Fortunately I'd been pushing for better resources in recent months so was in a good position a couple of weeks ago to get started on it but it's been interesting! Stay safe everybody. We're sitting waiting to find out if IT comes under the list of protected jobs which would mean our daughter definitely gets to remain at school - my wife is NHS staff (not frontline) but we don't know if just one parent being protected means a space is available or if it has to be both - if only one she would most likely be the one to stay home for childcare as her wages are lower than mine, and my company could end up in a right mess if I'm forced to be away. In truth the NHS can manage without her in her role for a few weeks. Stressful times but we're getting on as best we can - it's the not knowing that's the worst. edit: not looking for sympathy - there are families out there a heck of a lot worse than we are. Edited March 19, 2020 by Bucoops 2 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I built this D9 from a McGowan kit for the 1938 event on Little Bytham in 2018. Geoff Haynes painted it. I'll keep it for the moment, but one future option is to change the dome to the lower sort and make it an immediate post-War example. Some D9s finished off on the M&GNR. Tony Sacrilage! Such a great loco. Far better to look at it in its prime. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted March 19, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Bucoops said: I initially thought that I'd have plenty of modelling time - but being in charge of IT for a small but national company, suddenly a busy job has changed into a run ragged job whilst trying to increase the infrastructure to change from a few home users to over 100 on zero budget. Fortunately I'd been pushing for better resources in recent months so was in a good position a couple of weeks ago to get started on it but it's been interesting! Stay safe everybody. We're sitting waiting to find out if IT comes under the list of protected jobs which would mean our daughter definitely gets to remain at school - my wife is NHS staff (not frontline) but we don't know if just one parent being protected means a space is available or if it has to be both - if only one she would most likely be the one to stay home for childcare as her wages are lower than mine, and my company could end up in a right mess if I'm forced to be away. In truth the NHS can manage without her in her role for a few weeks. Stressful times but we're getting on as best we can - it's the not knowing that's the worst. edit: not looking for sympathy - there are families out there a heck of a lot worse than we are. My comment about 'extra time' for modelling was meant more of a personal thing, and more directed at folk in my (retired) position. I wish you all the very best under the circumstances (and everyone else who find themselves in a similar situation). We're very lucky (despite being in the more 'at risk' group), we don't have young children to look after and as for 'working at home', we're both retired (though I still do a lot of work at home). I'd just like to wish everyone all the very best during this horrid crisis. In the grand scheme of things, mucking about with model trains isn't that important, but it helps to keep me sane (debatable?) I'll keep on making models and taking pictures, posting the results on here; if nothing else but to keep a sense of 'normality'. Kindest regards, Tony. 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Been in isolation for two days so far but they have been frantic preparing online resources for our students who may be off school for sometime. It is proving hard as despite a long term condition I have almost no time off work and am usually in the thick of things. My aim is to not become an NHS statitstic so staying away from everyone is a necessity. Did manage a bit of time to start weathering the Claud, a first coat of acrylic paint and ground charcoal trying to recreate a photo of this loco in Yeadon. Dry brushing and ground up chalks to follow. Wheel rims have also been toned down on the chassis. Martyn 14 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, richard i said: I built this D9 from a McGowan kit for the 1938 event on Little Bytham in 2018. Geoff Haynes painted it. I'll keep it for the moment, but one future option is to change the dome to the lower sort and make it an immediate post-War example. Some D9s finished off on the M&GNR. Tony Sacrilage! Such a great loco. Far better to look at it in its prime. Richard I am not sure that words like "McGowan kit" and "great loco" belong in the same post! A D9, especially as built (GCR Class 11B) is one of the best looking locos ever built. Sadly, the same praise cannot be given to the dreadful McGowan kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, t-b-g said: Nasty Aussie wants my precious......... Well he can't have 'em 'cos they is mine! (Best said in a Gollum style hiss) Sorry Jesse, I still have one more 4mm layout in me and the GNR stock will be needed. Along with the stash of GCR kits and some Midland ones too. A few weeks at home might just see a bit of progress on it. It will be to the old "Manchester EM" standards, which are finer than present EM ones but will allow my more modern EM stuff to run on it too. Here is a little taster. Now I want to watch Lord of the Rings! Funny enough talking about movies, on the phone last night havIng a yarn with Tony, we have a deal for next time I’m over, if I sit through a whole cricket match with him, he’ll watch a Star Wars movie with me, I wonder who’d be the first one to fall asleep...... Edited March 19, 2020 by Jesse Sim 1 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Atso Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Are others turning the time they've now got into making models and/or taking photographs? Yes, but only because, having finally found a new job, the starting date is now very much up in the air and I've got a lot of free time on my hands. Not quite finished yet, but close. 14 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Jesse Sim said: Now I want to watch Lord of Rings! Funny enough talking about movies, on the phone last night have a yarn with Tony, we have a deal for next time I’m over, if I sit through a whole cricket match with him, he’ll watch a Star Wars movie with me, I wonder who’d be the first one to fall asleep...... Well worth a watch. I read the book well before I saw the films and it was the first time a film matched the pictures in my head that the book put there. One of my modelling visitors from New Zealand has been doing a part time job running tours of the film set for Hobbiton (Hi Andy!). Are we talking a 5 day test or a one day game? Don't make Tony watch the more recent films. Go back to the first one (episode IV). I remember going to the cinema to see it as a youngster and being blown away. Nobody had done anything like it before. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, t-b-g said: Well worth a watch. I read the book well before I saw the films and it was the first time a film matched the pictures in my head that the book put there. Yes, I enjoyed the book immensely and couldn’t put it down once I started. Then I saw the films and it was ‘wow!’ just like I imagined. Though I must admit I wasn’t keen on ‘The Hobbit’ films. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: One side-effect of self-isolation is now far more time to spend on railway modelling, including, in my case, taking more pictures of Little Bytham. Are others turning the time they've now got into making models and/or taking photographs? Just recently had a massive increase in SLS and York Show IT work due to notifying and updating everything for the cancellations. After about another week of catching up though, yes it is going to be model making, gardening and DIY catch ups as all the social activities my wife and I also do are now cancelled. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I’m having to come out of isolation (semi-retirement) and return to work as I’m a pharmacist! But I hope you all manage to get some worthwhile modelling done, after of course doing the household chores. Keep well and be sensible. regards Robert 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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