45568 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 To Doug & St. Enodoc, with apologies to Mr Wright for hijacking his thread...I will have a look at my spray can paint palette in the next couple of days and put in my suggestions. I have tried many car sprays, with mixed results, I do envy the b*ggers in UK with 'damask red' etc. The Mr Hobby 'russet' was worth a go I thought, and overall I am very pleased with the result. It is also compatible with Tamiya varnishes..that opens another can of worms! Cheers from Fortress West, Peter C. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, 45568 said: To Doug & St. Enodoc, with apologies to Mr Wright for hijacking his thread...I will have a look at my spray can paint palette in the next couple of days and put in my suggestions. I have tried many car sprays, with mixed results, I do envy the b*ggers in UK with 'damask red' etc. The Mr Hobby 'russet' was worth a go I thought, and overall I am very pleased with the result. It is also compatible with Tamiya varnishes..that opens another can of worms! Cheers from Fortress West, Peter C. Good afternoon Peter, It puzzles me why folk should feel the need to apologise for putting interesting, informative, even inspiring and fascinating comments, pictures, ideas and solutions on this thread. There is no 'highjacking' taking place at all. I welcome your comments/observations and those of others. Regards, Tony. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Tony Teague said: Just to report back - my nut is now fixed solid (as you might say!), and Tony's "wonky cocktail stick" was actually the only way that I could hold the nut in place from above whilst soldering from underneath - so in the end, that was the approach that I used. I am pleased to say that the ballast plough has now joined the operational fleet! Thanks to all and to Tony in particular. Tony Thanks Tony, I'm glad it worked. I wish I'd personally thought of/invented any of the tips and hints I try to pass on. All I've done is to plagiarise them off much cleverer folk. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted May 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2020 18 hours ago, jamie92208 said: I'm posting a lot of my railway photos in my Random pictures thread but have just posted some form a batch that readers of this column who like green engine might appreciate. Taken at Ravenglass in June 75 when a railtour paused en route to Sellafield. Jamie. Hi Jamie I appreciate the picture of the bridge as well! Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post zr2498 Posted May 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2020 It's been a while, but at last the first abutment of the twin span bridge is installed. The assembly was photographed outside to highlight the weathering. This is made up of Townstreet castings (semi-scratch built), as components had to be spliced together to accomodate the width of the truss bridge. The arch is also lower than the standard design which is usually used as a tunnel entrance. It was painted initially with Colron wood dye, and then weathered via enamel filters and washes, followed by various pigments . The central support pillar will need some position adjustment but I will spot the second abutment before doing this. The bridges will eventually receive plated decks and ballasting. No excuses - plenty of time to get on with it! Cheers Dave 9 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROY@34F Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 17 hours ago, Tony Wright said: With the discussion the other day about 'elevated views', I thought I'd try a few photographic experiments this afternoon. Firstly, some real 'higher level' views...... Not very elevated, but near the south portal of Peascliffe Tunnel (an impossible view today because of rampant Mother Nature). A nice example of an early ASCC motor carrier. And, a lovely mix of stock on the express. Classic Hadley Wood. Truly, a train in a landscape. Again, Sylvania has taken over today. Gamston. Askham Tunnel (the shortest on the ECML - and anywhere else?). And above the south portal of Stoke Tunnel. Elevated views do give a good view of the trains, but they're nowhere near as common as the normal three quarter front view. From the top of the model Stoke Tunnel, with only the carriage roofs visible. Selective compression as well! And on to Bytham's elevated views. Since 1958 was way before drones, I considered where a photographer might have been standing to get these shots..... Taken from the M&GNR overbridge. Perhaps moving just off the bridge gives a better view? Taken from the lower platform of the Up fast home signal. Taken from the platform of the Down fast starter. From the same Down fast starter's platform, but the picture-taker has turned through 180 degrees. He must also have a time-splitting machine, since 60103 has German blinkers; something she got two years after Little Bytham Station was flattened! Rule 1 applies.... A view from the footbridge as an Up fitted freight approaches. A picture taken from the top of the embankment adjacent to the stationmaster's garden. Aren't A3s handsome locos? In my view, the most-elegant British Pacific. Obviously, I didn't actually take the pictures from the signals, footbridge and girder bridge (they're strong, but there are limits). I just placed boxes alongside the structures on which to plonk the camera. At least the positions make sense (or at least near to). Aerial shots which could only be achieved by levitation or a drone don't really 'work' in my opinion. Out of possible interest, this is what my latest A3 will end up looking like (at least I hope so). This afternoon, I erected the cab, making sure it was vertically parallel with the tender. Oops! And you're right, Roy. Just look at that pile of coal in MINORU's tender (at Grantham). Please observe copyright restrictions on the prototype shots. Before I read your comments Tony , I thought that looks like Grantham , and the pile of coal is interesting . But it's more the back of the coal space that was always full that is noticeably missing on many model locos . Regards , Roy . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrMan Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) On 17/04/2020 at 12:07, Tony Wright said: Quote Thanks Tony, I'm glad it worked. I wish I'd personally thought of/invented any of the tips and hints I try to pass on. All I've done is to plagiarise them off much cleverer folk. Regards, Tony. Tony The mark of genius is knowing who to plagiarize from. i was fed up with students copying from someone who had got it wrong to start with. Lloyd Edited May 9, 2020 by FarrMan spelling mistakes 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted May 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2020 Speaking of Russet, my first car was Russet brown. I do miss my Allegros (yes, I had one then another). Ugly as sin, but ultra reliable considering the abuse they were given and mighty comfortable on their hydragas suspension. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted May 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, zr2498 said: Hi Jamie I appreciate the picture of the bridge as well! Dave I may have some more if you wany pictures of structures. Send me a PM. Jamie PS, Another senior monent went flashing by. I didn't recognise your screen name Dave. There are some other bridge puctures of the viaducts at Ravenglass in that set. Let me know what you want. By the way the span if the bridge looks lovely. Edited May 9, 2020 by jamie92208 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2020 18 hours ago, Tony Wright said: With the discussion the other day about 'elevated views', I thought I'd try a few photographic experiments this afternoon. Firstly, some real 'higher level' views...... Not very elevated, but near the south portal of Peascliffe Tunnel (an impossible view today because of rampant Mother Nature). A nice example of an early ASCC motor carrier. And, a lovely mix of stock on the express. Please observe copyright restrictions on the prototype shots. It is the first time I have seen The Anglo Scottish Car Carrier with only roof boards not the large writing on the side of the CCT(E)s. They are also in crimson, where as the ones with the sign writing on the side were maroon. What a pity the photo was bombed by other train. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Clive, there is an article in the latest Gresley Observer about the Car Carrier. The earliest photos (1960, the first year of service) don't have the large lettering but do have roofboards in some shots, so it may be (unless that's substitute stock) that the picture dates from 1960. Most of the later shots, even those dated 1961, have the large lettering visible. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, FarrMan said: Tony The mark of genius is knowing who to plagiarise from. i was fed up with students copying from someone who hasd got it wrong to start with. Lloyd I'm reminded of my first meeting with my oldest friend, Lloyd. It was September, 1958, and we'd just started at secondary modern school (neither of us had been bright enough to pass our 11+). We were sitting side by side in a maths lesson and neither of us had a clue about how to solve the problems given. So, we copied off each other. Now, when two pupils get the same right answer it can mean one of only two things. One, they both got the answer right independently. Or, two, the dim one copied off the bright one, thus getting the answer right. The problem for my friend and me was that we were both dim, and got exactly the same wrong answer. On being 'flogged' (obligatory for transgressions in those far-off days) we were told it was not because we copied as such. 'No' said the teacher 'It's because you copied off dimwits each. Why didn't you copy of Coot over there? He always gets the right answer!). Our friendship has lasted over 60 years! No doubt, in more recent times, we'd probably have been diagnosed with some 'condition', explaining our inabilities. No, we weren't that bright at the time, or just plain lazy. He must have pulled his socks up (as I did). He became a bank manager, and I taught maths (at least for part of the timetable)! I still get stumped by really hard sums, however. Regards, Tony. Edited May 9, 2020 by Tony Wright to clarify a point 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Many years ago, when taking an external examination, I noticed that the guy next to me was copying my work. As I had time to spare, I created a few incorrect answers and left them where he could get a better view. I then answered the questions correctly, taking care to conceal them. The look on his face when I tore up the incorrect answers when the bell went was priceless. Cruel - maybe, but very satisfying. 5 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 22 hours ago, Tony Wright said: There are some wonderful examples on Grantham..................... French, the signalling engineer on the GN, insisted on sky backgrounds where possible. Regards, Tony. Fantastic! However I must admit to feeling a bit of a ding-bat having looked at and watched Grantham many times and completely missed these signals. Jim 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Some of the paint matches I have found in Canada: BR Crimson. Can Tire Strawberry Fields Gloss, The Army Painter Warpaints "Chaotic Red", Tamiya TS11 Maroon ER Green Tamiya Dark Green XF-26 if it is to be lightly weathered and Humbrol RC405 GWR/BR Green BR Roof Grey Tamiya German Grey XF-63 BR Wagon Grey Tamiya Neutral Grey XF-53 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted May 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2020 Askham Tunnel (the shortest on the ECML - and anywhere else?). Peak Forest Junction tunnel (29 yards). Incidentally, why was Askham a tunnel and not a cutting? Would a cutting not have been cheaper even if a bridge was required? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, teaky said: Askham Tunnel (the shortest on the ECML - and anywhere else?). Peak Forest Junction tunnel (29 yards). Incidentally, why was Askham a tunnel and not a cutting? Would a cutting not have been cheaper even if a bridge was required? I don't know, Rob, There is a road over the top, which would have required a fairly tall bridge. I haven't measured the length of the tunnel at Askham, but when I photographed a Deltic passing through it (lower picture p.46, Deltics A personal Recollection, Irwell Press 2016) it could accommodate just over two BR Mk.2s. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just a point of information....... He's very busy right now, and Mark Arscott of Markits informs me that, because of credit card restrictions, he won't take orders under £10.00. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, Theakerr said: Fantastic! However I must admit to feeling a bit of a ding-bat having looked at and watched Grantham many times and completely missed these signals. Jim Thanks Jim, Fantastic signals indeed they are. And, it takes a fantastic amount of time to cut out every segment of them in Photoshop! Regards, Tony. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted May 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2020 I know how sad this sounds but I have just been looking up "shortest tunnel" on the internet. Birdswood near Runcorn on the LNWR at 22 yards is the shortest so far but I have only got to the letter B and I have lost the will to live. Askham at 57 yards is a positive giant! The website is here if anybody else is interested enough to read through them all! http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/tunnels/tunnels1.shtm 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, t-b-g said: I know how sad this sounds but I have just been looking up "shortest tunnel" on the internet. Birdswood near Runcorn on the LNWR at 22 yards is the shortest so far but I have only got to the letter B and I have lost the will to live. Askham at 57 yards is a positive giant! The website is here if anybody else is interested enough to read through them all! http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/tunnels/tunnels1.shtm Thanks Tony, There can't be a shorter tunnel on the ECML than Askham, can there? Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: I'm reminded of my first meeting with my oldest friend, Lloyd. It was September, 1958, and we'd just started at secondary modern school (neither of us had been bright enough to pass our 11+). We were sitting side by side in a maths lesson and neither of us had a clue about how to solve the problems given. So, we copied off each other. Now, when two pupils get the same right answer it can mean one of only two things. One, they both got the answer right independently. Or, two, the dim one copied off the bright one, thus getting the answer right. The problem for my friend and me was that we were both dim, and got exactly the same wrong answer. On being 'flogged' (obligatory for transgressions in those far-off days) we were told it was not because we copied as such. 'No' said the teacher 'It's because you copied off dimwits each. Why didn't you copy of Coot over there? He always gets the right answer!). Our friendship has lasted over 60 years! No doubt, in more recent times, we'd probably have been diagnosed with some 'condition', explaining our inabilities. No, we weren't that bright at the time, or just plain lazy. He must have pulled his socks up (as I did). He became a bank manager, and I taught maths (at least for part of the timetable)! I still get stumped by really hard sums, however. Regards, Tony. Hello Tony When I was 15 years old our Maths teacher, Mr Jones, had some old fashioned ideas about how his class would be set up. We had to sit boy, girl , boy, girl until there was no more girls then the boys had to sit by themselves. I was quite shy in them days, and I was made to sit next to Lorraine, the best looking girl in the class. Hardly being able to say two words to her without being tongue tided I would just get on with my work. Well I liked Maths . One day I felt this thump on my upper arm, turned my head to see why I had been hit. One very cross looking Lorraine said "Can you slow down I can't copy that fast". After the initial panic, she had spoken to me, I did as she requested. Following lessons if she didn't understand Old Jonesy then I would show her what he had meant in a way she would understand. We became quite good friends at school, sadly lost contact as we ventured out into the big wide world. She had an older and bigger boyfriend. 3 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLBH Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, teaky said: Incidentally, why was Askham a tunnel and not a cutting? Would a cutting not have been cheaper even if a bridge was required? It may have been the influence of the landowner – Killiecrankie tunnel between Pitlochry and Perth is very shallow and could easily have been a cutting, but the Duke of Atholl didn't want a railway line spoiling the view. The resultant tunnel limits loading gauge on the Highland Main Line. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted May 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: She had an older and bigger boyfriend. They all did, in my experience...... 2 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted May 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, teaky said: Askham Tunnel (the shortest on the ECML - and anywhere else?). Peak Forest Junction tunnel (29 yards). Incidentally, why was Askham a tunnel and not a cutting? Would a cutting not have been cheaper even if a bridge was required? One fairly common reason for short tunnels is dodgy ground that would tend to refill a cutting. A tunnel was sometimes the best/easiest/cheapest way to ensure stability. John 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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