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Re: 8Fs.

Don't you mean O6s?

Ah but of course your railway is set after 1947.

Never mind; nobody's perfect.

 

Despite being a determined NER/NEA partisan I do like the Stanier era 8Fs. I think one of the best looking LMS locomotives.

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8 hours ago, Chamby said:

The extra modelling time for me during lockdown has been a little different.  Over the winter months, I have been finishing off a garage conversion that was originally intended to be a railway room, but has now become my wife’s painting studio.  The upside of this is that our previously shared hobby room is now mine exclusively, so I have been very much focused on expanding into her former workspace over the last few weeks.  

 

First up was a widening of the layout to allow the end curves to be eased with a transition curve of 48” leading to a minimum radius of 36” rather than the tight 24” previously used.  So... extending the baseboards, lifting the old track, laying, painting and ballasting the new, re-wiring both track and the repositioned baseboard joins, what sounds a simple task has taken quite a while.

 

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Since then, I took a dislike to the billiard table smooth baseboard tops, so have attacked them with a multi-tool to create a low embankment that will both improve the scenic profile and give better photographic opportunities as the scenic side of things progress.  Apologies for posting the later-than-usual-epoch locomotive and stock, it is intended for a club layout but is what was running at the time.

 

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Another outcome of the ‘studio’ arrangement is that a part of the garage conversion will become a modelling workbench with sufficient space for a permanently set up spray booth and DCC programming station.  So so it’s been way more DIY than modelling work for me, but very much driven by the hobby opportunities to come.

 

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Time for a layout thread Phil? Please?

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2 hours ago, micknich2003 said:

Here are a couple more O6's, the 1968 view is my own taking, and incidentally the "Last Real" steam hauled train I saw.

 

 

I bet the LNER O6's were faster than the LMS 8F's.

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12 hours ago, Chamby said:

The extra modelling time for me during lockdown has been a little different.  Over the winter months, I have been finishing off a garage conversion that was originally intended to be a railway room, but has now become my wife’s painting studio.  The upside of this is that our previously shared hobby room is now mine exclusively, so I have been very much focused on expanding into her former workspace over the last few weeks.  

 

First up was a widening of the layout to allow the end curves to be eased with a transition curve of 48” leading to a minimum radius of 36” rather than the tight 24” previously used.  So... extending the baseboards, lifting the old track, laying, painting and ballasting the new, re-wiring both track and the repositioned baseboard joins, what sounds a simple task has taken quite a while.

 

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Since then, I took a dislike to the billiard table smooth baseboard tops, so have attacked them with a multi-tool to create a low embankment that will both improve the scenic profile and give better photographic opportunities as the scenic side of things progress.  Apologies for posting the later-than-usual-epoch locomotive and stock, it is intended for a club layout but is what was running at the time.

 

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Another outcome of the ‘studio’ arrangement is that a part of the garage conversion will become a modelling workbench with sufficient space for a permanently set up spray booth and DCC programming station.  So so it’s been way more DIY than modelling work for me, but very much driven by the hobby opportunities to come.

 

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Wow excellent work! I’ve had the time during lockdown to convert my garage too, from a damp and cold junk room to a nice, cosy and draught free railway room. Also had the chance to extend my layout and ease my curves. 

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That’s as it was a few weeks ago. 
 

Chris

 

 

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On 22/05/2020 at 00:02, Woodcock29 said:

Graham

This model of what I presume is an etched brass Dia 148 raises an interesting question. There are two gas lamps over the toilets which seems logical as there were two separate toilets but no ventilators. My model of Dia 148 shown on the previous page and now here again (but not in this quote) for comparison has only one gas lamp and two ventilators as printed on the roof by Bill.  This doesn't really make sense to me as the single gas lamp flue is actually over the dividing wall between the toilets. I wonder if someone can provide any enlightenment as I've yet to find a photo of a real one?

 

Andrew

Further to my comments above re positioning of gas lamps/ventilators over centrally located toilets in GN Howlden stock I remembered to have a look at the 3-D printed 6-wheelers by MIke Trice on Shapeways. The Dia 84 first  roof has three holes across the centre line of the coach suggesting the same arrangement of fittings as Bill Bedford has on his Dia 148. So I'm still confused as to how this arrangement might work in reality?

 

Andrew 

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8 hours ago, micknich2003 said:

Here's a O6.

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Thanks Mick,

 

Isn't it often the case, if a prototype is slavishly-followed, the end result, in model form, might well look wrong?

 

Whenever I apply transfers, I take great care making sure that they're centred in both horizontal and vertical positions. Not needed on this tender!

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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27 minutes ago, Woodcock29 said:

Further to my comments above re positioning of gas lamps/ventilators over centrally located toilets in GN Howlden stock I remembered to have a look at the 3-D printed 6-wheelers by MIke Trice on Shapeways. The Dia 84 first  roof has three holes across the centre line of the coach suggesting the same arrangement of fittings as Bill Bedford has on his Dia 148. So I'm still confused as to how this arrangement might work in reality?

 

Andrew 

Has anyone asked Bill Bedford this question . He must have information to design it so, in the first place ??

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Further to my comments above re positioning of gas lamps/ventilators over centrally located toilets in GN Howlden stock I remembered to have a look at the 3-D printed 6-wheelers by MIke Trice on Shapeways. The Dia 84 first  roof has three holes across the centre line of the coach suggesting the same arrangement of fittings as Bill Bedford has on his Dia 148. So I'm still confused as to how this arrangement might work in reality?

 

 

Andrew,

 

have a look at the thread on the 1938 train on the LNER forum - it may be on here as well, but I'm not as certain.  There's an aerial photo of the train which clearly shows the two toilet Firsts with a central gas lamp above the lavatories.  The partition ran on a slight diagonal between the compartments - there's no reason the lamp couldn't be set into the partition such that it illuminated both while still maintaining privacy?

 

The diagram book is completely unhelpful and doesn't show roof fittings at all.

 

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41 minutes ago, Woodcock29 said:

Further to my comments above re positioning of gas lamps/ventilators over centrally located toilets in GN Howlden stock I remembered to have a look at the 3-D printed 6-wheelers by MIke Trice on Shapeways. The Dia 84 first  roof has three holes across the centre line of the coach suggesting the same arrangement of fittings as Bill Bedford has on his Dia 148. So I'm still confused as to how this arrangement might work in reality?

 

Andrew 

 

I can't say that it applies in this case but I recall reading about carriages where one central light was used for two toilet compartments. The dividing partition either had a cut out at the top, around the lamp, or didn't go all the way to the roof, so both sides got some light. That could be the case here.

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On 24/05/2020 at 09:17, dibateg said:

Camden shed looks impressive Iain - especially managing to tape together all those A4 sheets!

 

The Craftsman A5 - I built two of these, a nice little kit, but with some fundamental errors for the unwary. The width of the bunker is too narrow, it should be a few mm wider and present a 'big back' appearance. I think there was a mistake in one of the classic drawings that was used to design the kit. To me the cab looks too low and I suspect it was scaled from the top of the lip of the tank side and not the bottom. There was another kit, Wills maybe - it was chunkier in white metal, but the proportions looked better. I built 69800, which was a Leicester engine, but don't seem to have a photo of the model. Maybe you have one Tony?

 

8Fs - One of the things that converted me to 7mm scale was Richard Lamberts MOK 8F. A real Rolls Royce kit and a joy to build. I've always liked 8Fs since having the Hornby Dublo 48109 as a child. I borrowed Richards model whilst I built mine - I still don't think he's painted his one!

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That BR emblem looks rather yellow now...  48396 was a Canklow engine, I chose it as I had an excellent photo of it double heading a freight south from Woodford Halse with Bickmarsh Hall.. Here it is with A DJH Fairburn - which is at the opposite end of the spectrum, more errors and compromises and omissions, than you can imagine. So it's been heavily re-worked

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Regards

Tony

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, micklner said:

52F Models do a superb A5/1 and /2

 

https://www.52fmodels.org/gcr-class-9n-lner-br-class-a5-1

 

 

 

 

 

Good morning Mick,

 

I was going to have a crack at that kit this year, it looks really fab. Unfortunately, I have now acquired a backlog of other things to finish. Maybe next year, if there are still opportunities to make money.

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Thanks Andrew - I couldn't remember - Mick the 52F one looks superb! very nice. Looks like it is at High Wycombe... I'd love to have built one of those.

 

Regards

Tony

 

 

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3 hours ago, 92220 said:

 

Continuing......

 

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I just have the tender totems to add, then weathering etc.  It runs well, and with plenty of lead on board, easily strolls away with 19 on (6 of which were full metal kits) in the storage yard.  Originally I was thinking of asking Geoff to paint it, but with the lockdown I thought I’d better become a bit more self-sufficient.  
 

A few carriages progressed with, some full kits (some of which were part completed by persons unknown when I bought them), some Comet sides on donors, and some plastic bashing.

 

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Iain

 

 

This is most-impressive work, Iain,

 

Thanks for showing us.

 

The painting on your 46245 is excellent.

 

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Up to Geoff's standard?

 

Interestingly, the '6' on this side didn't adhere over a rivet, so he replaced it. 

 

I certainly can't paint to this standard, nor yours.

 

If I can help with details of a control panel, I certainly will. Norman Solomon made/installed mine.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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3 hours ago, dibateg said:

Camden shed looks impressive Iain - especially managing to tape together all those A4 sheets!

 

The Craftsman A5 - I built two of these, a nice little kit, but with some fundamental errors for the unwary. The width of the bunker is too narrow, it should be a few mm wider and present a 'big back' appearance. I think there was a mistake in one of the classic drawings that was used to design the kit. To me the cab looks too low and I suspect it was scaled from the top of the lip of the tank side and not the bottom. There was another kit, Wills maybe - it was chunkier in white metal, but the proportions looked better. I built 69800, which was a Leicester engine, but don't seem to have a photo of the model. Maybe you have one Tony?

 

8Fs - One of the things that converted me to 7mm scale was Richard Lamberts MOK 8F. A real Rolls Royce kit and a joy to build. I've always liked 8Fs since having the Hornby Dublo 48109 as a child. I borrowed Richards model whilst I built mine - I still don't think he's painted his one!

P1000368.JPG.b1ac532aafa4393c9a7c7dd26b745099.JPG

 

That BR emblem looks rather yellow now...  48396 was a Canklow engine, I chose it as I had an excellent photo of it double heading a freight south from Woodford Halse with Bickmarsh Hall.. Here it is with A DJH Fairburn - which is at the opposite end of the spectrum, more errors and compromises and omissions, than you can imagine. So it's been heavily re-worked

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Regards

Tony

 

 

 

 

 

Good afternoon Tony,

 

I do have a picture of your A5......

 

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I'm delighted to now own it. A couple of things I did (would you believe it?) was to cure the characteristic squeak and fit more-appropriate bogie/pony wheels (though I think the pony should have one more spoke). 

 

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Last October, I obtained a part-built/part-dismantled Nu-Cast A5 (Wills never made one) from Roy Jackson's estate. Nobody seemed to know who the builder was, but I stripped it, rebuilt it and made an OO set of frames for it (I've yet to fit the brakes!). I then painted, lined, numbered, lettered and weathered it. 

 

Good enough as a layout loco, I think. 

 

Your 8F is superb. Fantastic work!

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

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What a fantastic selection of modelling projects posted during the last 24 hours. 

 

Many thanks for showing us......

 

For myself, I've been taking a few more LB pictures; from elevated positions.

 

I asked myself the question, where could elevated views be obtained on the real thing? So, started off 'climbing' the ladder of the Up fast starter.........................

 

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Assuming some measure of contortionist ability on the part of the photographer (which can't have been me because I'm standing on the platform!), the three views above were obtained; by leaning out one way or  another from the ladder - no 'elf-'n'-safety in those far-off times. 

 

Fear of heights (that's me) prevented the photographer from climbing to the top of the signal.  

 

 

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15 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

I thought plunger pick-ups were a good idea, John,

 

Until I tried them.

 

Never again! They stuck, and for absolute adjustment the wheels had to be taken off too many times.

 

Now, I avoid them like the plague......

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

I have used them successfully in the past on a High Level pannier chassis. I only used the nylon sleeve from the Alan Gibson kit, substituting a length of brass rod for the plunger. This was drilled to take phosphor spring wire soldered to PCB strip in the same way that you would for bearing on the tyres. This gives much softer springing. See below.

 

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