APOLLO Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Quote Hi Mr 15 So where is the offending Alco? I nearly bricked the bu99er up in the tunnel as per poor old Henry !!!!!!!!!! Here she is - Forgiven - She is a Delaware & Hudson Alco C628 - an Atlas loco. A lovely runner. Another loco bought very cheaply off Ebay in January is this kit built General Electric U33C Uboat. Beautifully built and painted from a sheet brass Gilmour kit (I think). Large central motor and six wheel drive. Whoever built and painted her did a wonderful job. This loco also runs well but is not very heavy - indeed it could do with a bit more. Just needs the cab windows glazing and a bit of touching up on the cab sun shade. Each loco cost about the same as a Hornby Pacific !! Who says O gauge is expensive ? Brit15 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 21 hours ago, Headstock said: Eliminate all three as a cause and your problem will be solved. A scenic diorama then! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 There'll be a piece appearing in BRM soon about building 16T mineral wagons (not written by me, I hasten to add). Were they the most-ubiquitous wagon on British Railways? No steam-age depiction of where these wagons ran would be complete without them - in some cases scores. Fortunately, I have dozens, from a variety of sources. Mixed with other typical types as well................. Anyone else got pictures of model mineral trains; empty or full. All-weathered, of course............... 18 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: There'll be a piece appearing in BRM soon about building 16T mineral wagons (not written by me, I hasten to add). Were they the most-ubiquitous wagon on British Railways? No steam-age depiction of where these wagons ran would be complete without them - in some cases scores. Fortunately, I have dozens, from a variety of sources. Mixed with other typical types as well................. Anyone else got pictures of model mineral trains; empty or full. All-weathered, of course............... Loco - Nu-Cast 16xx, built and painted by me, weathered by the late Paul Fletcher. Wagons - Ian Kirk china-clays, built (two modified to vacuum fitted) and painted by me, weathered by @Barry O of this parish. Brake van - Ratio, built and painted by me, also weathered by Baz. I hand-lettered the wagons and van using a Rotring pen, as Woodhead transfers hadn't appeared 40 years ago. Viaduct - not built at all yet... 15 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, APOLLO said: Each loco cost about the same as a Hornby Pacific !! Who says O gauge is expensive ? Brit15 I know they have gone up in price a lot, but you’ve just confirmed that Hornby pacific’s are as expensive as an O gauge loco these days! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Loco - Nu-Cast 16xx, built and painted by me, weathered by the late Paul Fletcher. Wagons - Ian Kirk china-clays, built (two modified to vacuum fitted) and painted by me, weathered by @Barry O of this parish. Brake van - Ratio, built and painted by me, also weathered by Baz. I hand-lettered the wagons and van using a Rotring pen, as Woodhead transfers hadn't appeared 40 years ago. Viaduct - not built at all yet... Thanks John, Lovely stuff. Regards, Tony. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chamby said: I know they have gone up in price a lot, but you’ve just confirmed that Hornby pacific’s are as expensive as an O gauge loco these days! But not really like-for-like, Phil, Take the comparative price of a Hornby A3 and a Hatton's A3, for instance................... Or A4s. Regards, Tony. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 52 minutes ago, APOLLO said: I nearly bricked the bu99er up in the tunnel as per poor old Henry !!!!!!!!!! Here she is - Forgiven - She is a Delaware & Hudson Alco C628 - an Atlas loco. A lovely runner. Another loco bought very cheaply off Ebay in January is this kit built General Electric U33C Uboat. Beautifully built and painted from a sheet brass Gilmour kit (I think). Large central motor and six wheel drive. Whoever built and painted her did a wonderful job. This loco also runs well but is not very heavy - indeed it could do with a bit more. Just needs the cab windows glazing and a bit of touching up on the cab sun shade. Each loco cost about the same as a Hornby Pacific !! Who says O gauge is expensive ? Brit15 Two very lovely looking locos, the C268 is the better, but I like Alcos. D&HRR livery is one of the best, many of the fallen flags of the east coast railroads were good. 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headstock Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: There'll be a piece appearing in BRM soon about building 16T mineral wagons (not written by me, I hasten to add). Were they the most-ubiquitous wagon on British Railways? Good morning Tony, there was about half a million PO wooden bodied mineral wagons at nationalization and the big four equivalents on top of that,, I don't know how that compares? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Yes Clive these locos were a lucky one off buy. Sold by a specialist O gauge retailer on their ebay shop, with buy it now prices under £150 just after Christmas - well I couldn't pass that up. I watched some American O go for silly prices this week from a private seller. £200 for a loco stated would not work - but it sold. A brass caboose sold for nearly £300 . A nicely painted brass Big Boy went for just over a grand - perhaps a fair price, but that loco would get truly stuck in my tunnels !!! As a general observation though, British outline O gauge is a lot more expensive than its North American counterpart, both new and second hand. Brit15 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmditch Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, APOLLO said: Moral of this story for layout builders. Make everything track wise accessible - see what sod and his law made me do ! Don't use nylon insulation fishplates on curved to straight joints (especially in O gauge) Don't run your trains after 9pm on a hot Friday evening !! Brit15 I do agree. The Law of the Perversity of Natural Events (otherwise known as S**'s Law) means that the most complex derailment problems will always occur in the most inaccessible place, and if you want to stack up the odds even more - it will happen when you have visitors! I only use nylon rail joiners on straight formations. If rail gaps are required on curves I epoxy the rail and sleeper base for two sleepers width, making one fastening to my cork track base. When the epoxy is dry I cut through the epoxy and the rail with a razor saw. Then a small amount of epoxy into the freshly cut metal. It should be tidied up for flangeways when all has set. Obviously, this is far too ugly for track in the 'scenic sections'. There I have another solution. The only other thing to mention is 'test, test and re-test'. I use my most track sensitive locomotives and selected stock for this. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) depends on what sort of minerals Tony.. American 3ft Gauge (Kits built and painted by Bob Harper, weathering by me Lots of coal trains on Mike Edges Layouts . I have built a few.. Wentworth Junction. by Mike Edge and photo by Mike. These are a vraiety of Parkside Steel bodied minerals and a number of wooden bodied minerals with added coal loads ( the ones at the electric engine end must be some of Mikes with real coal fitted.) And a few more on Herculaneum this has an example of the Parkside "Slope" sided 16T unfitted mineral, a Parkside ex "SNCF" 16T mineral, Airfix, Parkside and Cambrian 16T steel minerals. I amass mineral wagons (and not just the smaller ones or the 16T ones although I have only just repaired an acquired vac fitted 16T mineral) but also 21 and 24.5T steel minerals plus lots of wooden bodied vehicles. Variety, as they say, is thespice of mineral trains! Baz Mike has the layout, my photo of some of my minerals on the layout at Watford Edited June 23, 2020 by Barry O 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2020 Some minerals (all Parkside and Bachmann) behind a Warship: 18 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2020 Sorry about the non-weathered one there. I do intend to weather the chassis but I want one or two to look fresher than the others as you do see quite clean 16Ts in photographs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowanj Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) This is my only rake of mineral wagons- a mix of RTR and kits. They were actually fairly rare at my prototype - 21T hoppers were the usual fare- and were more normally seen as odd wagons in a mixed, usually pick-up, freight. The loco is a Dave Alexander Q7- a gentleman very much missed , particularly among those who model the NER, Edited June 23, 2020 by rowanj 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 The Airfix mineral wagon just lends itself to modifying. I vacuum braked all of mine and also removed top flaps. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, MJI said: The Airfix mineral wagon just lends itself to modifying. I vacuum braked all of mine and also removed top flaps. Probably the best-selling British model railway kit in history? Anyone who thinks model railways are expensive just needs to build a few of these. I used to love the RM articles in years gone by, of turning them into numerous other wagon types. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ScRSG Posted June 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2020 More minerals as requested, Chas 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Headstock said: Good morning Tony, there was about half a million PO wooden bodied mineral wagons at nationalization and the big four equivalents on top of that,, I don't know how that compares? Good afternoon Andrew, Were some of those 16T? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Loco - Nu-Cast 16xx, built and painted by me, weathered by the late Paul Fletcher. Wagons - Ian Kirk china-clays, built (two modified to vacuum fitted) and painted by me, weathered by @Barry O of this parish. Brake van - Ratio, built and painted by me, also weathered by Baz. I hand-lettered the wagons and van using a Rotring pen, as Woodhead transfers hadn't appeared 40 years ago. Viaduct - not built at all yet... Lummy.. weathering done about 42 years ago with spray gun and paint. Baz 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headstock Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Good afternoon Andrew, Were some of those 16T? Good afternoon Tony, Probably, is it important? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, ScRSG said: More minerals as requested, Chas Thanks Chas, They look excellent. Interesting motive power as well. Have we had an Austerity 2-10-0 on Wright Writes before? A DJH kit? Regards, Tony. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Headstock said: Good afternoon Tony, Probably, is it important? Good afternoon Andrew, I don't know, but the article refers to 16T mineral wagons (though I think the wagons built represent steel ones). My comment was that the 16T mineral wagon (of any kind, to qualify it) was probably the most ubiquitous type on BR. Were the likes of 12T vans more common? Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 Thanks for all the pictures of weathered wagons. When the BRM article is published, there'll be a request to send in such pictures for a competition. I think the prize is more 16T wagon kits! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Northmoor said: Probably the best-selling British model railway kit in history? Anyone who thinks model railways are expensive just needs to build a few of these. I used to love the RM articles in years gone by, of turning them into numerous other wagon types. yes I converted some for IRON Ore use. Removed side doors and produced an infill from plasticard, changed the springs etc. Never managed a pig Iron carrier conversion and removing top flaps was a bit "late" for my period Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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