Jol Wilkinson Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Beautiful Jol, And I think that L&NWR lined black is a superb livery. Just one thing. I take it it's more difficult to put P4 wheels on the track? I struggle with OO! Regards, Tony. Only when putting a model on the "display" track. Normally I use a "Putterona", a moulded plastic ramp from the Scalefour Stores that guides the wheels onto the track on the layout. Hornby and Peco also produce 00 gauge versions called Re-railers, so it isn't only P4 modellers that use them! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, 31A said: Talking of A2 stroke 2s and also weathering, I have weathered my 'Thane of Fife' and I think got rid of the strange shade of green. In the process of doing so, I increasingly realised what a brilliantly designed model this is, sadly let down by the colour and in some cases, assembly defects. Hi Thats looks very effective indeed. May I ask what your weathering techniques were to achieve that fine finish? I did apply an additional coat of Johnson’s Klear today to my 60501 plus brushing on a dirty white spirit solution and it has darkened the green livery it bit more but I think it still needs more work to bring it up to a similar shade of green as per my existing Hornby A3’s & A4’s. Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Thanks for posting that pic, Tony. I know it’s a long time ago, but fairly sure that’s my favourite spotting place, Wood Green....... Takes me back a bit as it doesn’t appear that often in pics. Lovely pic of a V2 even if I’m wrong about the location.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, 31A said: Talking of A2 stroke 2s and also weathering, I have weathered my 'Thane of Fife' and I think got rid of the strange shade of green. In the process of doing so, I increasingly realised what a brilliantly designed model this is, sadly let down by the colour and in some cases, assembly defects. 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: That's an astonishing transformation Steve, It's so much more realistic. Regards, Tony. Got to agree. That looks incredibly natural. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 That's got to be one one the most evocative V2 images I have seen in a while, beautiful, cropped a little, hope you don't mind. Takes my mind off Thompson Pacifics! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) Dear 31A... What a truly outstanding piece of enhanced RTR modelling! Who would have thought it possible? And for under UKP200 under UKP145 for we antipodeans without VAT! Beautiful work, superb weathering and scene, I hope you don't mind here is your photo lightened a tad. Edited February 26, 2021 by robmcg typo 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted February 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, robmcg said: Dear 31A... What a truly outstanding piece of enhanced RTR modelling! Who would have thought it possible? And for under UKP200 under UKP145 for we antipodeans without VAT! Beautiful work, superb weathering and scene, I hope you don't wind here is your photo lightened a tad. Thank you Rob, glad you like it. The photo was just taken with my I Phone camera, but the lighting in my railway room isn't great - what you've done is a big improvement. I did try with my small digital camera (Panasonic Lumix) but the colour rendition was worse than the I Phone. The A2/2 model seems to be a bit "Marmite" (some love it, some hate it) from the thread in the Hornby section but I must say I'm a big fan, even more so now I've weathered it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Tony Wright said: .... I feel the finish is a little dull. Out with the Klear, then - a couple of coats should sort that out! John Isherwood. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, 31A said: Thank you Rob, glad you like it. The photo was just taken with my I Phone camera, but the lighting in my railway room isn't great - what you've done is a big improvement. I did try with my small digital camera (Panasonic Lumix) but the colour rendition was worse than the I Phone. The A2/2 model seems to be a bit "Marmite" (some love it, some hate it) from the thread in the Hornby section but I must say I'm a big fan, even more so now I've weathered it! I'd love to see that pic in the Hornby section but it might cause one or two to have apoplexy. Your weathering is outstanding and my TMC version looks very flat and pale by comparison, I think I might try to improve mine by some means or other. Thanks for the inspiration. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, gordon s said: Thanks for posting that pic, Tony. I know it’s a long time ago, but fairly sure that’s my favourite spotting place, Wood Green....... Takes me back a bit as it doesn’t appear that often in pics. Lovely pic of a V2 even if I’m wrong about the location.... You're spot on Gordon, It is Wood Green, in about 1952. The third car and some at the rear of the train are still in teak. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Jol Wilkinson said: Only when putting a model on the "display" track. Normally I use a "Putterona", a moulded plastic ramp from the Scalefour Stores that guides the wheels onto the track on the layout. Hornby and Peco also produce 00 gauge versions called Re-railers, so it isn't only P4 modellers that use them! Good evening Jol, Colin Ashby tells an amusing story about the 'Putterona'. I believe he first made it, out of moulded plastic, when he took over the Ian Kirk range of carriage kits. He initially produced it in the three principal 4mm gauges - OO, EM and P4. Both the OO and EM ones fairly flew, but the P4 one hardly sold at all to begin with. Until he split the one piece moulding into two, thus offering it as a kit, Sales were then tremendous! Regards, Tony. 1 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: You're spot on Gordon, It is Wood Green, in about 1952. The third car and some at the rear of the train are still in teak. Regards, Tony. it was wonderful to see Wood Green again as I really did spend hours on the end of that platform. The giveaways were the three lines through the station, the signal gantry and the gas holder on the left. Certainly pre dates me in 1952 as I probably started there in 1956. Great memories as pics are fairly rare. I did find one of a 9F going through the Khyber Pass a few years ago. I’ll see if I can find it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) Normally I’d say Google is your friend, but the LNER forum came up trumps.... https://www.flickr.com/photos/31514768@N05/3502444862/in/album-72157617526193082/ Loads more pics if you scroll through the side arrows. Wasn’t sure about copyright, so just a link rather than embedded. Edited February 26, 2021 by gordon s 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Good afternoon Andrew, I think the fairing is probably too tall. It's certainly right for the locos in streamlined form as P2s, though it probably should be lower as A2/2s. Though difficult to be absolutely sure, I think the tender front is lower.................... Regards, Tony. Hi Tony What a fabulous photo of 60501, thank you for posting it. Regards David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Hornby's latest catering car has just arrived for photography........................ A very accurate car, though I feel the finish is a little dull. I think it represents the same diagram as the old Mainline model. Looks good but I'll stick with my Mainline version. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said: Only when putting a model on the "display" track. Normally I use a "Putterona", a moulded plastic ramp from the Scalefour Stores that guides the wheels onto the track on the layout. Hornby and Peco also produce 00 gauge versions called Re-railers, so it isn't only P4 modellers that use them! 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Colin Ashby tells an amusing story about the 'Putterona'. I believe he first made it, out of moulded plastic, when he took over the Ian Kirk range of carriage kits. I still have an original Hornby-Dublo (three-rail) Railer somewhere. I use Colin Ashby's version for day-to-day operation. Edited February 27, 2021 by St Enodoc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Tony Wright said: You're spot on Gordon, It is Wood Green, in about 1952. The third car and some at the rear of the train are still in teak. Regards, Tony. Hi Tony, Great stuff teak. Here's a bit being used to true-up the wheels of a rather antiquated Mainline Jubilee. Mainline wheels were brilliant but unfortunately the axles were not so hot. The plastic electrical insulation will be replaced with teak bushes. Teak actually machines like aluminium. In this case the source of the teak was excess material from a floor we put in. Andy 5 5 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 45568 Posted February 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2021 G'day to all Wright's Writers, I have just completed this model from a 3D print. Details here: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/162692-lms-2p-044t-from-a-3d-print/ Whilst not perfect it does show how this particular technology is improving. Cheers from Oz, Peter C. 22 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Iain.d Posted February 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) Back on New Year’s day, I built a simple Ratio 12 ton box van, shown on WW a few dozen pages back. This encouraged me to start on a few more wagon kits that I’ve accumulated over many years, in between doing carriages. I have just completed this pair of Ratio SR 12 ton Ventilated Vans – I think to Diagram 1455. The instructions were pretty sparse with no prototype information or sample numbers / transfers. One is painted in Humbrol Light Grey, the other Railmatch BR Early Freight Stock Grey, both have replacement brake safety loops, Gibson sprung buffers (I just drilled out the provided buffer shanks), 3 link couplings and Bachmann split spoke wheels running in top hat bearings. On the one below I have tried to replicate the split, repaired and resealed canvas roofs that were characteristic of these vehicles, not perfect but different. Both have also be weathered with washes and dry brushing. I'm quite happy with them. Kind regards, Iain Edited February 27, 2021 by Iain.d Add missing letter 15 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, 31A said: Thank you Rob, glad you like it. The photo was just taken with my I Phone camera, but the lighting in my railway room isn't great - what you've done is a big improvement. I did try with my small digital camera (Panasonic Lumix) but the colour rendition was worse than the I Phone. The A2/2 model seems to be a bit "Marmite" (some love it, some hate it) from the thread in the Hornby section but I must say I'm a big fan, even more so now I've weathered it! You don't mention how "small" your small camera is, but most Lumix models let you adjust the colour balance (it's called "White balance" in the menu). I've (so far) not needed to take either of mine (I have a big one and a small one) off "Auto", which I haven't managed to "beat" yet. It might take a bit of playing around, but once you have found what setting suits your lighting, you should be able to save it in a custom menu so it's easy to select when you next need it. John Edited February 27, 2021 by Dunsignalling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted February 27, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, gordon s said: it was wonderful to see Wood Green again as I really did spend hours on the end of that platform. The giveaways were the three lines through the station, the signal gantry and the gas holder on the left. Certainly pre dates me in 1952 as I probably started there in 1956. Great memories as pics are fairly rare. I did find one of a 9F going through the Khyber Pass a few years ago. I’ll see if I can find it again. Good morning Gordon, Some more Wood Green memory joggers....................... I wonder why the GN arranged so many of its main line stations with three roads going through the centre, meaning that either the Up fast or the Down fast were platform faces? Harringay, Hornsey, Hatfield, Essendine and Retford, as well as Wood Green, spring to mind. This J1 was withdrawn at the beginning of 1953, which (given its condition) suggests these shots were taken in 1952. Another begrimed V2. I've shown this shot before, and the carriage-pickers had a fine time! During its time shedded at 35A, the unique K5 heads an express freight northwards. It was because (at one time) Thompson's rebuilt K3 was on the GN that prompted me to make a model of it (about 25 years ago now). It's an old Wills K3 kit, with a part scratch-built front end, scratch-built chassis (with Nu-Cast B1 cylinders and Jamieson motion) and a scratch-built tender. Strictly speaking, it's out of time for Little Bytham's period, but it usually acts as a conversation piece (or has done) when guests visit. Regards, Tony. Edited February 27, 2021 by Tony Wright to add something 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Iain.d said: Back on New Year’s day, I built a simple Ratio 12 ton box van, shown on WW a few dozen pages back. This encouraged me to start on a few more wagon kits that I’ve accumulated over many years, in between doing carriages. I have just completed this pair of Ratio SR 12 ton Ventilated Vans – I think to Diagram 1455. The instructions were pretty sparse with no prototype information or sample numbers / transfers. One is painted in Humbrol Light Grey, the other Railmatch BR Early Freight Stock Grey, both have replacement brake safety loops, Gibson sprung buffers (I just drilled out the provided buffer shanks), 3 link couplings and Bachmann split spoke wheels running in top hat bearings. On the one below I have tried to replicate the split, repaired and resealed canvas roofs that were characteristic of these vehicles, not perfect but different. Both have also be weathered with washes and dry brushing. I'm quite happy with them. Kind regards, Iain Here's one I've been working on. Still needs transfers and weathering. I'll also be doing the roof repairs since seeing the exact type so treated on the final page of Twilight of the Goods. This is a 9' wheelbase, even-planked example with SR 8-shoe "Power" avb. Body is Ratio, floor a Parkside leftover, basic underframe Cambrian, brake gear, buffer and brake hose castings are ABS. I have all necessary to hand to make a 9'wb unfitted one, but there's the better part of a dozen that are, at best, to the stage of this one to finish off first. John Edited February 27, 2021 by Dunsignalling 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) Thanks Tony, they are brilliant! If I had a lot more space then a model of Wood Green and the Hertford loop would be top of my list.... It was my great Aunt and Uncle who used to take me to Alexandra Palace and my first memories were seeing trains in Alexandra Palace terminus. Of course we wandered down the hill to cross over the rail footbridge and the sight of main line express trains at speed meant I was hooked for life. I’m guessing I was five if six at that time, so I had to wait a couple of years before I was allowed out on my bike to cycle to Wood Green from our home. Doesn’t bear thinking about cycling up the North Circular and across numerous roads as a child, but those days were so different. I even stumbled across Palace Gates station one day, but not a lot was happening, so it was back to my favourite platform with my packed lunch. I know things weren’t perfect in those days, but even as children we had so much freedom to do as we pleased. Edited February 27, 2021 by gordon s 5 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 9 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Looks good but I'll stick with my Mainline version. Good morning John, As you and others will recall, I repainted/detailed an old Mainline RB last month. Comparisons are odious, I know, but....................... My model from last month; Halfords Ford Burgundy Red and transfer lining/lettering/numbering. Then Humbrol matt black/brown/grey enamels, brush-applied for the roof/ends/underframe/bogies. I still need to renumber this to one of the series which ran on B1 bogies. Under the same studio lighting and taken with the same camera (though not from exactly the same angle), with quite a difference in colour/finish, this is Hornby's latest RB. I'm sure it should have curtains in the dining area. Was the blanked-off kitchen door window a later feature? And, on the layout; my Mainline RB. I assumed the corridor section would have a handrail. And, once again, the latest Hornby RB (layout room lighting and a different camera). The two together. Weathering would bring out the roof and chassis details on the Hornby version (and might even disguise the over-scale roof ribs). Like you, I'll stick with the Mainline RB. If nothing else, it shows how much of an outstanding model it was at the time, though the window reveals are rather deep in comparison with the latest one. I'm sure the latest Hornby version will sell really well. Regards, Tony. 14 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, gordon s said: Thanks Tony, they are brilliant! If I had a lot more space then a model of Wood Green and the Hertford loop would be too if my list.... It was my great Aunt and Uncle who used to take me to Alexandra Palace and my first memories were seeing trains in Alexandra Palace terminus. Of course we wandered down the hill to cross over the rail footbridge and the sight of main line express trains at speed meant I was hooked for life. I’m guessing I was five if six at that time, so I had to wait a couple of years before I was allowed out on my bike to cycle to Wood Green from our home. Doesn’t bear thinking about cycling up the North Circular and across numerous roads as a child, but those days were so different. I even stumbled across Palace Gates station one day, but not a lot was happening, so it was back to my favourite platform with my packed lunch. I know things weren’t perfect in those days, but even as children we had so much freedom to do as we pleased. I'm glad those pictures brought back memories, Gordon, I'd be about six when they were taken, so no chance of my seeing Wood Green at that time (a long way from Chester). Is it a universal perception now that we look back and think we had so much more freedom than kids of today? I think so. I recall my first independent visit to Retford. I'd be about 11/12, and, being the eldest of all the male cousins in my paternal family, 'in charge' of my younger brother and five/six others. We'd get the train from Kiveton Park (disappearing in clouds of filthy dust as we bounced on the seats of the ancient non-gangwayed carriage, hauled by an even more-filthy D11) to Retford. We were all told not to leave the station (though hordes of 'spotters were booted off one day, only to spot by the subway to the cattle market), never talk to strangers and be back by teatime. That was that! I'd consider such parental 'abandonment' today inconceivable. Regards, Tony. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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