RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said: With all this talk about BR green recently, is the bright green Hymek a Hornby model? Photo from, geoff7918 Flickr page. Copright Geoff Dowling & John Whitehouse My guess is they are probably identical but the nearer one may be a tad grubby. Surprising what sunlight hitting two similar objects at angles differing by just a few degrees can make to their comparative appearance. The amount falling on the nearest Hymek and the Brush 4 may also be influenced by the large building on the right, too, with the furthest Hymek being unaffected. John 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: Good morning Gordon, Though not as fine as Alan Gibson (or Markits) equivalents, the Hornby bogie wheels on the latest A2/2 are not bad. I'll not be changing them on mine. Bevel on LNER bogie wheels? It's not very pronounced, but I'm not sure. I use Markits LNER bogie wheels, anyway. If you go down that route (01923 249711), Mark Arscott makes exactly the right 3' 2" 10-spoke LNER bogie wheels. I use them because they look right, they're always true round and run perfectly. Regards, Tony. P.S. HAPPY KNIGHT is an A2, and Hornby doesn't make one....................... Thanks for that Tony, as Wizard Models only had one pair in stock with further deliveries unknown I have left a message with Alan Gibson direct, so I suspect a call to Mark may be the better option. Apologies. You're right they are both Bachmann. Just different size boxes which threw me..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerner Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 My guess is they are probably identical but the nearer one may be a tad grubby. Surprising what sunlight hitting two similar objects at angles differing by just a few degrees can make to their comparative appearance. The amount falling on the nearest Hymek and the Brush 4 may also be influenced by the large building on the right, too, with the furthest Hymek being unaffected. It's for that reason and the fact that we all see colours slightly differently, I always wonder why so many people get het up by slight variations they perceive they can see. 4 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Flintoft Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 21 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Only three books to review for BRM this month................. A massive tome this one, and fascinating. Essential for all LNER/BR modellers I'd say. Oh dear , Tony , Yet more books to save up for . I little thought , when steam finished on B.R. that we would still be buying books about them in 2021 ; & still going round in circles about Gresley & Thompson! Best Wishes , Ray . 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsalDan Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Recently bought the On the Right Track DVDs on Loco kit building that you present. Very informative and it's great to be able to watch someone demonstrating the techniques in a way that a book can't show you. Hope to have a go soon myself with an SE finecast kit! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MonsalDan said: Recently bought the On the Right Track DVDs on Loco kit building that you present. Very informative and it's great to be able to watch someone demonstrating the techniques in a way that a book can't show you. Hope to have a go soon myself with an SE finecast kit! Thanks Dan, If you ever get stuck in your loco-building, there's always plenty of help on here..................... I've been doing a bit more loco-building today.................. After the LRM J3 smokebox wrappers were formed using my rolling bars, they were soldered to main boiler unit. A cocktail stick aids alignment and florists' soft-iron wire holds everything in place while soldering takes place (easier than mutilating fingertips!). I'd formed and soldered the cab in place before soldering the boiler unit in position (much in the way of cleaning up still being necessary). This is a dinky little thing, and the fit of parts is excellent. I'm sure I've built one of these before, an account appearing in BRM not long after the kit came out (does anyone remember this?). I think it's the one that now runs on Peterborough North (I've been asked to build a D2 for that layout as well). Edited March 1, 2021 by Tony Wright typo error 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffer Davies Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Hi Tony, is there something odd happening with the cab's beading? Its not really for a GW modeller to comment on Sir's LNER modelling but in this case, and having built the LRM J3 previously, I believe the beading on the bottom outer corner of the J3's window should be squared off and the top outer corner radiused up over the roof, but on your model this seems to in reverse. Otherwise...... nice going. Frank Edited March 1, 2021 by Chuffer Davies 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I agree regarding the correct shape for the beading, but I'm not sure that the GN cab cut-out is grand enough to deserve being called a window. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 15 hours ago, MonsalDan said: Recently bought the On the Right Track DVDs on Loco kit building that you present. Very informative and it's great to be able to watch someone demonstrating the techniques in a way that a book can't show you. Hope to have a go soon myself with an SE finecast kit! 100% agree. For reasons I wont go into, i was really struggling with kit building, despite having built many over the years. I was on the verge of quitting until i was presented with these DVD's by a friend. As you say, being able to actually watch Tony at work unlocked my mental blocks and set me back on course. I will always be grateful. 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Chuffer Davies said: Hi Tony, is there something odd happening with the cab's beading? Its not really for a GW modeller to comment on Sir's LNER modelling but in this case, and having built the LRM J3 previously, I believe the beading on the bottom outer corner of the J3's window should be squared off and the top outer corner radiused up over the roof, but on your model this seems to in reverse. Otherwise...... nice going. Frank Thanks Frank, A classic case of using what's provided in the kit for the purpose without checking. I never learn! The top corner can be radiused with a file, and I can build up the bottom one with solder. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, Denbridge said: 100% agree. For reasons I wont go into, i was really struggling with kit building, despite having built many over the years. I was on the verge of quitting until i was presented with these DVD's by a friend. As you say, being able to actually watch Tony at work unlocked my mental blocks and set me back on course. I will always be grateful. The Right Track DVDs were an unprecedented success. Despite my presenting three and a half of the first four, they were so well made by Chris and Wendy Walsh (Activity Media) that all those who bought them (who commented to me) were delighted. There was an amusing consequence of the first one going on sale (at one Doncaster Show - 2004?). Activity Media sold them direct, but Warners also took them for sale. Nobody at the time knew how well (or badly) they'd go, so, I think, 100 of Pt. 1 were taken to the show. I had to leave early on the Saturday to drive down to Sandy to collect another 200. They'd all gone by the end of Sunday! After that, by getting the likes of Ian Rathbone, Barry Norman, Norman Solomon, Geoff Taylor, Nigel Burkin and others on board, the series just flew. I'd seen other productions beforehand, but many were dire. Some presenters just muttered on, often in imperfect (colloquial) English. In one, the guy (Eh, by gum!) started off by building an O Gauge LMS 4-6-0, obviously got flustered and out of his depth, so concluded by showing us a part-finished 0-6-0T! The camera work was dreadful as well. I think the Right Track DVDs were 'ideal' in their time and place. They wouldn't be made today - all three locos I made in Pts. 1 and 2 are now available as excellent RTR models, and plagiarism/copying on social media would probably render them unsaleable. Regards, Tony. 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium D.Platt Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2021 Morning Tony I don’t know if you buy Steam World but this months has a photo selection on Stoke bank , an interesting photo of the Midland Pullman passing the site of Little Bytham station in 1965. Another article is about your first train spotting memories, the photo at Manchester Victoria of the L&Y banker took me right back to my first real memory of sight and sound of steam loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gordon s Posted March 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2021 Funny how this has cropped up this morning as after rummaging around for something to do, this popped up.... a DJH J50 bought long ago and way before the Hornby release. I've never built a loco before although did build a Comet B1 chassis many years ago. I'm also sat watching Tony's video on kit building, so tempted to overcome the usual fear of failure and make a start. The cop out for me will to be to build a new single slip. Soldered track I can do in my sleep, but after sitting on this kit for numerous years, I ought to have a go. No doubt there will be numerous questions...... 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, D.Platt said: Morning Tony I don’t know if you buy Steam World but this months has a photo selection on Stoke bank , an interesting photo of the Midland Pullman passing the site of Little Bytham station in 1965. Another article is about your first train spotting memories, the photo at Manchester Victoria of the L&Y banker took me right back to my first real memory of sight and sound of steam loco. Plus that photo of a clean lined black V2 in 1957 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium D.Platt Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2021 The way you can build track Gordon you will have no trouble building the DJH J50 , it will make a pleasant change. looking at your Eastwood layout encouraged me into making my own points, that’s what is so good with these forums, always something new to pickup on. Dennis 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 4 hours ago, D.Platt said: Morning Tony I don’t know if you buy Steam World but this months has a photo selection on Stoke bank , an interesting photo of the Midland Pullman passing the site of Little Bytham station in 1965. Another article is about your first train spotting memories, the photo at Manchester Victoria of the L&Y banker took me right back to my first real memory of sight and sound of steam loco. Afternoon Dennis, I don't usually see Steam World, but I'll look out for it. Thanks. I've not seen many shots of the Midland Pullman on the ECML, but it was tested as a potential replacement for the loco-hauled Pullmans in operation at the time. It 'failed' on two counts - it wasn't fast enough and it wasn't comfortable enough in comparison. Manchester Vic'? Ah, yes - wheezing ex-L&Y 0-6-0s shoving trains up to Miles Platting. Happy days! Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Tony Wright said: The Right Track DVDs were an unprecedented success. Despite my presenting three and a half of the first four, they were so well made by Chris and Wendy Walsh (Activity Media) that all those who bought them (who commented to me) were delighted. There was an amusing consequence of the first one going on sale (at one Doncaster Show - 2004?). Activity Media sold them direct, but Warners also took them for sale. Nobody at the time knew how well (or badly) they'd go, so, I think, 100 of Pt. 1 were taken to the show. I had to leave early on the Saturday to drive down to Sandy to collect another 200. They'd all gone by the end of Sunday! After that, by getting the likes of Ian Rathbone, Barry Norman, Norman Solomon, Geoff Taylor, Nigel Burkin and others on board, the series just flew. I'd seen other productions beforehand, but many were dire. Some presenters just muttered on, often in imperfect (colloquial) English. In one, the guy (Eh, by gum!) started off by building an O Gauge LMS 4-6-0, obviously got flustered and out of his depth, so concluded by showing us a part-finished 0-6-0T! The camera work was dreadful as well. I think the Right Track DVDs were 'ideal' in their time and place. They wouldn't be made today - all three locos I made in Pts. 1 and 2 are now available as excellent RTR models, and plagiarism/copying on social media would probably render them unsaleable. Regards, Tony. I agree - I learnt an awful lot from those DVDs before I knew you Tony. In fact on one of them a certain Mr Tony Wright convinced me to switch to DCC! Regards Andy 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 48 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said: I agree - I learnt an awful lot from those DVDs before I knew you Tony. In fact on one of them a certain Mr Tony Wright convinced me to switch to DCC! Regards Andy I was surprised not be nominated for an Oscar for my performance on the Right Track DCC DVDs, Andy. People thought I was convinced of the merits of it! Regards, Tony. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted March 2, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2021 I've been speaking with Dave Ellis (ex- of South Eastern Finecast) this afternoon. He's now turning his attention to the development of the old Nu-Cast range, with new etched chassis and improved castings. Clearly, there's little mileage in reintroducing loco kits such as the B1, V2 and Q6, because of the dominance of RTR, but three which cropped up were the B16/2, B16/3 and K2. I built this Nu-Cast B16/3 a couple of years ago (acquiring the bits from the late Roy Jackson's estate). Geoff Haynes painted it. As far as I'm aware this type is on no RTR radar. I built this Nu-Cast K2 some little time ago for Ian Wilson. Again, it's painted by Geoff Haynes. Another one on no RTR horizon as far as I'm aware. I'm sure there'll be mileage in the reintroduction of these kits. The K2 is certainly easier to build than the LRM example, especially the chassis. If anyone is interested, may I please suggest their getting in touch with Dave Ellis? He can be contacted at daveellis@gmail.com If they are reintroduced, I'll be test-building them and writing the instructions............................ 19 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: I've been speaking with Dave Ellis (ex- of South Eastern Finecast) this afternoon. He's now turning his attention to the development of the old Nu-Cast range, with new etched chassis and improved castings. Clearly, there's little mileage in reintroducing loco kits such as the B1, V2 and Q6, because of the dominance of RTR, but three which cropped up were the B16/2, B16/3 and K2. I built this Nu-Cast B16/3 a couple of years ago (acquiring the bits from the late Roy Jackson's estate). Geoff Haynes painted it. As far as I'm aware this type is on no RTR radar. I built this Nu-Cast K2 some little time ago for Ian Wilson. Again, it's painted by Geoff Haynes. Another one on no RTR horizon as far as I'm aware. I'm sure there'll be mileage in the reintroduction of these kits. The K2 is certainly easier to build than the LRM example, especially the chassis. If anyone is interested, may I please suggest their getting in touch with Dave Ellis? He can be contacted at daveellis@gmail.com If they are reintroduced, I'll be test-building them and writing the instructions............................ Tiny, I’m sure there would be a market for both assuming no RTR comes along to ruin the party. The other obvious one from the Nucast range from an Eastern perspective is the A5. All three go for reasonable prices on eBay. Andy 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said: Tiny, I’m sure there would be a market for both assuming no RTR comes along to ruin the party. The other obvious one from the Nucast range from an Eastern perspective is the A5. All three go for reasonable prices on eBay. Andy Thanks Andy, I've never built a Nu-Cast A5 (though I acquired a body from the late Roy Jackson's estate, for which I built a chassis and painted). I'm sure there'd be an interest in it, too. When you say 'reasonable' prices, what are those, please? I know Dave likes to keep his kits (ex-wheels/motor/gearbox) under £100.00. Do some of the kits mentioned go for more than that? Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sandra Posted March 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2021 Tony, At the moment I’m building a K2 from a Nucast kit. I’m using the white metal chassis but with brass bearing added and a Comet gearbox and Mashima motor. Unfortunately this requires the removal of a large amount of white metal to make it fit so an etched chassis would have been a huge advantage. As I’m building it in EM gauge a lot of metal has had to be removed from the body. I would certainly be interested in buying an A5, a B16/2 or 3 and perhaps another K2. Eastern or Scottish modellers may also be interested in an A2/1 which I would suggest is very unlikely to appear as a RTR model. I already have one of these, Duke of Rothesay, the other three were in Scotland so not likely to appear at Retford. Talking of Nucast here is another Nucast kit which I have nearly finished, it’s a GWR Flower class which I am trying to complete. I’m ashamed to say that I started building it as long ago as 1983 but never got round to finishing it. I’ll post more photos when it’s been painted which at the present rate of progress should be about 2036. Sandra 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Thanks Andy, I've never built a Nu-Cast A5 (though I acquired a body from the late Roy Jackson's estate, for which I built a chassis and painted). I'm sure there'd be an interest in it, too. When you say 'reasonable' prices, what are those, please? I know Dave likes to keep his kits (ex-wheels/motor/gearbox) under £100.00. Do some of the kits mentioned go for more than that? Regards, Tony. It depends what’s in the kit (wheels, motor, etc) and whether it’s been started. I’d say that whereas an unstated mint V2 with no wheels and motor would go for £50-£60, an equivalent B16/ A5/ K2 would be around the £100 mark, sometimes a little more. Some sellers try it on with much higher prices but I just ignore them so I don’t know if they sell. If anything, I’d say the B16 is less popular than the other two - is there a known issue with the kit? But it varies from auction to auction so please don't take this as gospel - I’m happy to be corrected if others have a view. Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) Had a good day and the J50 chassis is coming together, but I knew there may be questions.... All the bearings are in, but when I came to fit the Markits wheels, none of the axles fitted easily into the back of the wheels. I understand they have to be a tight fit, so wondered if some lead in is required to enable the square shank of the axle to pull into the square hole of the wheel. Should I scrape away the edge of the square hole in the back of the wheel to create a lead in for the axle or take a small file to the axle to take off the sharp square edge? Grateful for your guidance... Edited March 2, 2021 by gordon s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, gordon s said: Had a good day and the J50 chassis is coming together, but I knew there may be questions.... All the bearings are in, but when I came to fit the Markits wheels, none of the axles fitted easily into the back of the wheels. I understand they have to be a tight fit, so wondered if some lead in is required to enable the square shank of the axle to pull into the square hole of the wheel. Should I scrape away the edge of the square hole in the back of the wheel to create a lead in for the axle or take a small file to the axle to take off the sharp square edge? Grateful for your guidance... Just a couple of file strokes or gently scraping on the back of the wheel should be all that's needed. No need to touch the axle. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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