grahame Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jesse Sim said: This actually has me thinking that I should make a will, considering I have an old historic car and a motorcycle. Is 25 too young to make one? I wouldn't worry about an old car and bike at the age of 25. By the time you shuffle along, probably in more than 50 years time, they'll have rotted away to rust and nothing. Dust to dust and so on . . . Edited May 27, 2021 by grahame 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, grahame said: I wouldn't worry about an old car and bike at the age of 25. By the time you shuffle along, probably in more than 50 years time, they'll have rotted away to rust and nothing. Dust to dust and so on . . . There won't be any petrol available by then, anyway! CJI. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2021 32 minutes ago, cctransuk said: There won't be any petrol available by then, anyway! CJI. There will probably be loads of petrol, but like collectible whisky it will be sold at inflated prices in fancy bottles to collectors who never actually use it for the purpose for which it was intended. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Jesse Sim said: Oi I did say 'in the main'. Out of possible interest, a friend dropped off a model this week. We chatted (nice, after over six months) and the subject of the members' age in the club we're in came up. Guess what? Average age nearly 70! I'm in two other (active, or were) model railway clubs, and the average of the members in those is even higher. It's not sustainable. Regards, Tony. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted May 27, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 I've now completed the 'filming' of the modified Hornby RTR locos in action on Little Bytham. It'll be edited next week, and then go on Hornby's Youtube channel. Here are some more of the featured locos........................... A pretty standard 2P (now with loco-drive). All I've done is detail it, renumber it and weather it slightly. I've done the same with this 8F, but weathered it much more heavily. And the same with this D16/3 (not renumbered), but this time the super weathering is by Tom Foster. This was GNR green J52. I altered details, made a new set of frames/new mech' for it and repainted it. It needs weathering. And finally, an L1. Detailed, renumbered and weathered by me. All these locos are Ian Wilson's property. 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2021 4 hours ago, polybear said: Absolutely not; it also leaves scope for leaving sweet FA to those you don't like... 2 hours ago, Northmoor said: If you've never watched "Gran Torino", it gives a great indication of what can happen when an old curmudgeon is treated as a potential meal-ticket by their family. Also see: 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, grahame said: I wouldn't worry about an old car and bike at the age of 25. By the time you shuffle along, probably in more than 50 years time, they'll have rotted away to rust and nothing. Dust to dust and so on . . . Quite possibly, but the idea of a Will is to cater for the wishes of those making the Will from the moment the document is signed and witnessed. Fortunately, for the vast majority, we never know how long we've got left - ranging from a minute to 80+ years..... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: ...the subject of the members' age in the club we're in came up. Guess what? Average age nearly 70! I'm in two other (active, or were) model railway clubs, and the average of the members in those is even higher. It's not sustainable. Regards, Tony. It depends, Tony. People were saying the same thing 20 years ago and we’re still here. I think there is a steady supply of retiring blokes who are interested in either resuming or starting up in the hobby now they have more time on their hands. A club that has a welcoming approach to new members, has good modelling taking place, a good social scene and makes itself available via local exhibitions and open days, will tap into this. The new blood is there, though not always young new blood! Embracing an interest in blue diesels rather than just late British Railways steam helps reach into the memories of the guys who are now reaching retirement. Enthusiasm for Deltics, Peaks and Westerns is becoming more prevalent in new members, as time inexorably moves on. So much so that at two-day exhibitions, our club started to operate its main layout with ‘late crest’ Saturdays and ‘blue diesel’ Sundays. The level of interest in blue diesels took us by surprise, but on reflection makes sense, as that’s what was around when those now retiring were in their youth. Inward focused, cliquey bunches of mates that are hard to break into, and stuck in the steam era, will be the clubs more likely to fade away... Edited May 27, 2021 by Chamby Removed an errant apostrophe. 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Chamby said: It depends, Tony. People were saying the same thing 20 years ago and we’re still here. I think there is a steady supply of retiring blokes who are interested in either resuming or starting up in the hobby now they have more time on their hands. A club that has a welcoming approach to new members, has good modelling taking place, a good social scene and makes itself available via local exhibitions and open days, will tap into this. The new blood is there, though not always young new blood! Embracing an interest in blue diesels rather than just late British Railways steam helps reach into the memories of the guys who are now reaching retirement. Enthusiasm for Deltics, Peaks and Westerns is becoming more prevalent in new members, as time inexorably moves on. So much so that at two-day exhibitions, our club started to operate its main layout with ‘late crest’ Saturdays and ‘blue diesel’ Sundays. The level of interest in blue diesels took us by surprise, but on reflection makes sense, as that’s what was around when those now retiring were in their youth. Inward focused, cliquey bunches of mates that are hard to break into, and stuck in the steam era, will be the clubs more likely to fade away... 'Inward focused, cliquey bunches of mates that are hard to break into, and stuck in the steam era, will be the clubs more likely to fade away...' Talk about being 'damned by faint praise'! When people were saying the same thing 20 years ago, the average age of the members of the clubs I belong to was around 50. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: 'Inward focused, cliquey bunches of mates that are hard to break into, and stuck in the steam era, will be the clubs more likely to fade away...' Talk about being 'damned by faint praise'! When people were saying the same thing 20 years ago, the average age of the members of the clubs I belong to was around 50. Oh dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, polybear said: Quite possibly, but the idea of a Will is to cater for the wishes of those making the Will from the moment the document is signed and witnessed. Fortunately, for the vast majority, we never know how long we've got left - ranging from a minute to 80+ years..... Dont forget if you die intestate the state will have a field day and take for their services potentially as much as 90%. So make a will just to stop the hanger ons, etc. getting the money 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2021 35 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Talk about being 'damned by faint praise'! Hi Tony, I think what I meant to say, is not what you thought you heard. There’s nothing damning at all about being in a cliquey bunch of mates. I wasn’t pointing fingers, but commenting on my own experience. I attend two clubs, one is a cliquey bunch of mates with a shared but focused interest, the other is embracing new member’s broader interests. I very much enjoy being a part of both, but realistically only one will most likely survive. The hobby definitely has a future, but maybe not as we currently know it. 2 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 41 minutes ago, Chamby said: Hi Tony, I think what I meant to say, is not what you thought you heard. There’s nothing damning at all about being in a cliquey bunch of mates. I wasn’t pointing fingers, but commenting on my own experience. I attend two clubs, one is a cliquey bunch of mates with a shared but focused interest, the other is embracing new member’s broader interests. I very much enjoy being a part of both, but realistically only one will most likely survive. The hobby definitely has a future, but maybe not as we currently know it. Thanks Phil, Who knows what the hobby's future will be? In a way, I feel a bit of an 'I'm all right Jack' character. I have my trainset to operate (thankfully, now again with visitors), I have my workshop, tools and raw materials, and, most important, I still have the necessary faculties to be able to build things. Yes, I have to replenish materials; and, having nibbled away quite drastically at my stash of kits during lockdown(s), I'm acquiring more, but my personal modelling future looks quite positive (I'm not telling God my plans!), if (obviously) more-limited than it was 20 years ago. That said, I won't ever build another exhibition layout or be part of a team which does so. Those days are gone for me. I'd still like to do more exhibitions, but far fewer than in 2019. I'm not RTR-dependent and I can usually do most model railway tasks myself, though I prefer to barter, especially where I know my skills are weak - good painting, for instance. I do care about the future of the hobby, and I actively encourage others to develop their skills (with one-to-one tutorials - or I did up to 15 months ago). Maybe the cliquey 'clubs' will fail (extinction is, after all, inevitable for everything). I suppose I've been involved with 'cliquey' projects down the years, where the 'entry' to them was dependent on skills brought to the table, not cash or a fat chequebook. They were certainly not evangelical, but what they made was good, and it worked! What I do see is more and more model railway equipment coming up for sale than just a few years ago. Why? Because the previous owners are no more. Regards, Tony. 8 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Theakerr said: Dont forget if you die intestate the state will have a field day and take for their services potentially as much as 90%. So make a will just to stop the hanger ons, etc. getting the money I must make a will. As much as I like Jack Russell Terriers, I don't want my estate to go to Dilyn and his hanger-ons. Bill 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Chamby said: People were saying the same thing 20 years ago and we’re still here. 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: When people were saying the same thing 20 years ago, the average age of the members of the clubs I belong to was around 50. But (Tony), my bet is that your 'clique' (in terms of the members of the club you 'grew up' with) are all roughly the same age. So, 20 years ago, of course you were all around 50! I agree with Chamby - there are plenty of other 'cliques' following on behind you. Blokes (mainly) who get to know each other in their 50s post-kids / mortgage (outrageous over generalisation!). Take 'Team Grantham'. It occurs to me that the core of the team are - with a couple of exceptions - all within a few years of being the same age. That means that we all naturally relate to each other because we all grew up with the same influences around us. Music, sport, tele, politics, cars - doesn't matter, the point is that when one person cracks a joke or makes a reference to something from 30 odd years ago we all say 'yeah, I remember that!'. The modelling just flows around those sort of common bonds and we gradually create our own culture based on the adventures we've been through, whether that be surviving freezing cold conditions at Barrow Hill, certain locos that attempt to redefine the loading gauge or boasting about our P2 locomotives by referring to the first part of the name of the prototype ... I'll wager it is / was the same with the groups you've been part of. You've grown up together and becoming owd gits together ... but that doesn't mean there's no-one left to carry on the hobby. 7 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted May 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2021 I’ve just got back from our club meeting tonight having signed up two more new members - that’s 7 since lockdown 1. And these two were aged 26&31. I believe the hobby will grow over the next five years as people who’ve got into it over lockdown keep building their interest. After that, who knows? Nothing lasts forever and I suspect it will decline slowly in the medium to long term but I’m confident that the hobby will see me out! 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 8 hours ago, grahame said: I wouldn't worry about an old car and bike at the age of 25. By the time you shuffle along, probably in more than 50 years time, they'll have rotted away to rust and nothing. Dust to dust and so on . . . Oi, don’t speak like that my Hq’s very sensitive when it comes to rust... 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted May 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 I think the hobby is bulging with 'returnees' right now. Those, as has been suggested, have come through the perils of life - job, marriage, mortgage, kids, divorce, poverty, etc! Now, into retirement they're looking for a hobby, and railway modelling attracts. It's especially attractive given the quality (and exceptionally good value) of what's offered 'out of the box' right now. As has also been mentioned, there are members joining clubs for whom the 'perils' have only just started. And, there always have been (and always will be?) new generations (or half generations) who take up the 'torch' as the older gits (we're all 'gits') either become too infirm or expire. From my observations of late, I've come up with the following thoughts.............. 1. We've never had it so good. Yes, I know there have been issues regarding some new models of later, but a full-blown LNER Pacific in full regalia in OO for £170.99 (Kernow, latest RM)! 2. Many suppliers of kits/bits have had their best year ever! Which rather means that there'll be even more kits to 'dispose' of once the buyers expire.............. 3. Investment in new kits (particularly 4mm locos) has slowed down considerably (I used to get a new one every couple of months to build and review). That said, the re-emergence of Nu-Cast is encouraging (my review of the K2 is in the August BRM). However, the likes of DJH hasn't produced a new 4mm loco kit for nearly 20 years now. 4. The average age of most clubs' membership has never been higher. 5. Prior to three years ago, I've never heard of a club show ceasing to exist because its membership were all too old/infirm to stage it any more. 6. Though I've done it (with Mo's help) for several years, the number of examples where we're asked to find new homes for model railway items on behalf of families, either because the (usually) husband/father/bloke has died or is too ill to carry on modelling (I have five boxes of stuff in my shed of such stuff, will collect more on Sunday, have to travel to see a widow in the near future and am expecting a hefty parcel today), has never been greater. 7. The average age of punters at shows (particularly O Gauge) has never been higher (and, as shows return, it'll be even higher). 8. The last 'trainspotting generation' (the schoolboys I taught in the '70s/early-'80s) is now approaching retirement, and, thus, an interest in BR blue in model form is probably going to increase as its members relive their youth in miniature (just as I'm doing, but a generation earlier, and with steam-outline). After that? There haven't been schoolboy trainspotters on platform ends for a long, long time now in my experience. Yes, there are trainspotters, who once were schoolboys, but, hmnn............. That's not to say all trainspotters become (serious?) railway modellers in later life, but tens of thousands did. That's also not to say that one must have been a trainspotter to be a 'serious' railway modeller, but the link between the two hobbies has always been very strong. A link now broken in more-recent years. In another generation, the interest will be very, very little. 9. I'm still being asked by RTR manufacturers to assist (in a small way) with the development of new models. As is the case with some kit-makers, which is encouraging. 10. Do I care what happens? I suppose so, but as long as I'm stocked up with enough kits to build, have enough solder and flux (I've used 'tons' and 'gallons' respectively in the last 12 months or so!) and still have enough friends who want to visit and operate Little Bytham, then I'm all right Jack! 16 8 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted May 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: I think the hobby is bulging with 'returnees' right now. Those, as has been suggested, have come through the perils of life - job, marriage, mortgage, kids, divorce, poverty, etc! Now, into retirement they're looking for a hobby, and railway modelling attracts. It's especially attractive given the quality (and exceptionally good value) of what's offered 'out of the box' right now. As has also been mentioned, there are members joining clubs for whom the 'perils' have only just started. And, there always have been (and always will be?) new generations (or half generations) who take up the 'torch' as the older gits (we're all 'gits') either become too infirm or expire. From my observations of late, I've come up with the following thoughts.............. 1. We've never had it so good. Yes, I know there have been issues regarding some new models of later, but a full-blown LNER Pacific in full regalia in OO for £170.99 (Kernow, latest RM)! 2. Many suppliers of kits/bits have had their best year ever! Which rather means that there'll be even more kits to 'dispose' of once the buyers expire.............. 3. Investment in new kits (particularly 4mm locos) has slowed down considerably (I used to get a new one every couple of months to build and review). That said, the re-emergence of Nu-Cast is encouraging (my review of the K2 is in the August BRM). However, the likes of DJH hasn't produced a new 4mm loco kit for nearly 20 years now. 4. The average age of most clubs' membership has never been higher. 5. Prior to three years ago, I've never heard of a club show ceasing to exist because its membership were all too old/infirm to stage it any more. 6. Though I've done it (with Mo's help) for several years, the number of examples where we're asked to find new homes for model railway items on behalf of families, either because the (usually) husband/father/bloke has died or is too ill to carry on modelling (I have five boxes of stuff in my shed of such stuff, will collect more on Sunday, have to travel to see a widow in the near future and am expecting a hefty parcel today), has never been greater. 7. The average age of punters at shows (particularly O Gauge) has never been higher (and, as shows return, it'll be even higher). 8. The last 'trainspotting generation' (the schoolboys I taught in the '70s/early-'80s) is now approaching retirement, and, thus, an interest in BR blue in model form is probably going to increase as its members relive their youth in miniature (just as I'm doing, but a generation earlier, and with steam-outline). After that? There haven't been schoolboy trainspotters on platform ends for a long, long time now in my experience. Yes, there are trainspotters, who once were schoolboys, but, hmnn............. That's not to say all trainspotters become (serious?) railway modellers in later life, but tens of thousands did. That's also not to say that one must have been a trainspotter to be a 'serious' railway modeller, but the link between the two hobbies has always been very strong. A link now broken in more-recent years. In another generation, the interest will be very, very little. 9. I'm still being asked by RTR manufacturers to assist (in a small way) with the development of new models. As is the case with some kit-makers, which is encouraging. 10. Do I care what happens? I suppose so, but as long as I'm stocked up with enough kits to build, have enough solder and flux (I've used 'tons' and 'gallons' respectively in the last 12 months or so!) and still have enough friends who want to visit and operate Little Bytham, then I'm all right Jack! Tony, I think that’s a good summary...certainly more balanced than the Sergeant Fraser ‘We’re all doomed’ line! I’d query a couple of your points: 1. I’m not convinced £170.99 would be seen as good value to a potential hobby entrant who probably doesn’t care about all the detail. Those who enter from the perspective of a love of that loco class or steam in general might think it good value. But for the general ‘train in the landscape’ or ‘gismo-holic’ entrant a cheaper price point is probably required. They will have to go with Hornby’s railroad range or secondhand. 2. I’d agree with you in 4mm. I would hope that some in 7mm might have their best years ahead. (I know you said ‘many’ which is fair enough). 6. This has always been a feature of our hobby. I think your growth in this area might owe more to your making yourself available and known as someone who can/will do it successfully. I know of others who made a living (pocket money?) from clearing estates who are finding it hard to find new stock because of online sales making it easier for the general punter to cut out the middle man. 7. Having recently got into it, I have never been to an O gauge show but I would agree that the average age at virtual events seems to be high. I can’t comment on how this compares historically but I would expect this to drop over the next few years as the scale becomes more mainstream. 8. Agree totally. BR blue will become the new ‘transition era’. As for the future entrants we may rely on Rev Awdry and some persuasive parents/ grandparents. I failed on the parent front (in that respect) but will try harder should I get the chance with any grandchildren. 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Popular Post Clem Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) Well I've finally got this (below) little monkey off my back. I started the new chassis for it in September and being an old Wills kit, the body also needed a fair bit of surgery. By the end of October I had produced a smooth running, no cylinders sprung 0-6-0 chassis and then..... it all went a bit haywire. I should say I went a bit haywire. With the cylinders tacked in place, no matter how I looked at it I couldn't see how I would get the clearances for EM and in normal circumstances, I simply persevere to find solutions to these type of problems. But suddenly I found my motivation - and my confidence - had disappeared and in fact I completely lost interest in modelling. I seriously thought that it would never get finished. This situation lasted several months but in February and March, I started picking up and got back into the groove by doing some scenery and a couple of sprung O4 chassis, one for a Ks kit (63729) and one for a rejigged Bachmann (63829). Finally, after that I thought 'OK, I'm ready to tackle this.' Quite a bit of head scratching and fettling of parts later et voilà! I have to say it's been uphill pretty well all the way. After I got it running, I spent a week trying to figure out why I was getting a short circuit on one part of the layout. It turned out to be 2 culprits, the front pony and the brake hanger base on the middle driving axle. I am quite pleased with it as it was the first outside cylinder and valve gear engine I built in OO about 40 years ago and although it has a number of inaccuracies (mainly the cab but also the tender), it's a loco that I'm very fond of. The prototype was a Colwick engine from 1950 until it was withdrawn in 1961 but it did get around. I have a photo of it (somewhere) in the mid 1950s on a Cambridge Buffet express to Kings Cross. I'll post a video of the model in action later.... Edited May 28, 2021 by Clem 28 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Chamby said: Embracing an interest in blue diesels rather than just late British Railways steam helps reach into the memories of the guys who are now reaching retirement.... The level of interest in blue diesels took us by surprise, but on reflection makes sense, as that’s what was around when those now retiring were in their youth. Inward focused, cliquey bunches of mates that are hard to break into, and stuck in the steam era, will be the clubs more likely to fade away... Well I'm still below the age that used to mark statutory retirement and I can assure you that blue diesel modelling has absolutely no appeal for me, along with anything even more modern. I find BR steam modelling a bizarre prevalent trend too, as for me that era represents neglect, decline and fall. Any time pre-1939 is the era of real appeal, which is clearly too long ago to be modelled from my memory or for the purposes of trying to re-live my youth, and I'm far from alone in my interest in truly historic modelling. I have a slight interest in vintage electrics too, probably because they are unusual. Some of those with similar interests are certainly younger than me, so I imagine that their route into the hobby was in some ways similar to mine, being nothing to do re-living memories but instead being based on an urge to re-create something they never had the chance to see. I'm afraid that I tend to regard "modelling" that relies largely on RTR blue boxes-on-wheels with noise-making devices, running on non-scale track, as being about as mature /sensible /serious for an older person as for instance the the purchase of a car with huge wheel arch extensions, go-faster stripes, whale-tail spoiler and annoyingly loud exhaust. Edited May 28, 2021 by gr.king Spelling mistake! 5 3 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: 10. Do I care what happens? I suppose so, but as long as I'm stocked up with enough kits to build, have enough solder and flux (I've used 'tons' and 'gallons' respectively in the last 12 months or so!) and still have enough friends who want to visit and operate Little Bytham, then I'm all right Jack! Reminds me of what Fred Dibnah said in one of his episodes, "When I die, if I go to the right place all I want is some tools, a lathe, selection of hammers and an endless supply of old rusty traction engines to restore". I've finished the main construction works of my mine branch line to the sky and got trains running, seven cars max at a time, and run VERY slow due to curvature, gradient and height. I'm very pleased with the results, bridgework detail and the actual mine loader still to do. Now this last bridge was a challenge. Built on a sharp curve on a cliff edge directly over a bit of narrow gauge line. I took my inspiration from the prototype, Imagination was required to get the railroads through the Rocky mountains. (and a root through my plastic bits scrap box). DRGW Royal Gorge hanging bridge - still there and now a preserved line. Such a great hobby is ours whatever you model. Brit15 11 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: 8. The last 'trainspotting generation' (the schoolboys I taught in the '70s/early-'80s) is now approaching retirement, and, thus, an interest in BR blue in model form is probably going to increase as its members relive their youth in miniature (just as I'm doing, but a generation earlier, and with steam-outline). After that? There haven't been schoolboy trainspotters on platform ends for a long, long time now in my experience. Yes, there are trainspotters, who once were schoolboys, but, hmnn............. That's not to say all trainspotters become (serious?) railway modellers in later life, but tens of thousands did. That's also not to say that one must have been a trainspotter to be a 'serious' railway modeller, but the link between the two hobbies has always been very strong. A link now broken in more-recent years. In another generation, the interest will be very, very little. I think that this is because BR is so bland and uninteresting compared to the past-every modernisation, rationalisation, updating and renewing has made the railways increasingly colourless-think Spalding today compared to the fifties. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, gr.king said: Well I'm still below the age that used to mark statutory retirement and I can assure you that blue diesel modelling has absolutely no appeal for me, along with anything even more modern. I find BR steam modelling a bizarre prevalent trend too, as for me that ere represents neglect, decline and fall. Any time pre-1939 is the era of real appeal, which is clearly too long ago to be modelled from my memory or for the purposes of trying to re-live my youth, and I'm far from alone in my interest in truly historic modelling. I have a slight interest in vintage electrics too, probably because they are unusual. Some of those with similar interests are certainly younger than me, so I imagine that their route into the hobby was in some ways similar to mine, being nothing to do re-living memories but instead being based on an urge to re-create something they never had the chance to see. I'm afraid that I tend to regard "modelling" that relies largely on RTR blue boxes-on-wheels with noise-making devices, running on non-scale track, as being about as mature /sensible /serious for an older person as for instance the the purchase of a car with huge wheel arch extensions, go-faster stripes, whale-tail spoiler and annoyingly loud exhaust. Hi Graeme It is interesting who and why they model the period they do. I know many members of DEMU who model very modern railways and despite being older than me and trainspotting and/or traveling behind steam have no interest in steam. Conversely there are many modellers who are younger than me who model more historical railways. I fall into that group who model what they saw as a kid, stuff from before I was a trainspotter. Who are we to say what someone should be modelling, and how they enjoy their model railways. The guy who buys a red engine this month because last month he bought a blue one is as much a railway modeller as the bloke who winds his own motors and turns his own wheels if both are enjoying what they do. It is a hobby for enjoyment after all. 6 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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