RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2021 I'm currently working on yet another bridge. The plan is to create a bridge based on the marvelous Findorn Viaduct (as below), which is a lattice truss deck bridge. It will be converted to double track, and I'm hoping to use many of the components from a CVMW double track Parker truss bridge. Quite a task , so lots of kit bashing and extra bits of styrene will be needed. I'm still undecided about the track. The existing rails are laid on standard ballasted sleepers with internal guard rails. I would like the option of using longitunal sleepers as below But the bridge would need the guard rails as well. I have hunted high and low for a design / picture of running rails and guard rails laid on longitudinal timbers with the transoms / tie bars gauging the width. Any help with this would be appreciated. I seem to remember seeing this formation on an exhibtion layout but was that based on a prototype design? Dave 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted September 10, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 10 hours ago, zr2498 said: I'm currently working on yet another bridge. The plan is to create a bridge based on the marvelous Findorn Viaduct (as below), which is a lattice truss deck bridge. It will be converted to double track, and I'm hoping to use many of the components from a CVMW double track Parker truss bridge. Quite a task , so lots of kit bashing and extra bits of styrene will be needed. I'm still undecided about the track. The existing rails are laid on standard ballasted sleepers with internal guard rails. I would like the option of using longitunal sleepers as below But the bridge would need the guard rails as well. I have hunted high and low for a design / picture of running rails and guard rails laid on longitudinal timbers with the transoms / tie bars gauging the width. Any help with this would be appreciated. I seem to remember seeing this formation on an exhibtion layout but was that based on a prototype design? Dave Splendid stuff Dave, Just in case folk might have forgotten about the wonderful girder bridge you built for Little Bytham, a reminder................... Installed a month before the first lockdown last year. Thanks as well to Jamie Guest for designing the artwork. Regards, Tony. 26 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted September 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2021 A German 9F! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted September 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2021 “Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Riddles!!!” 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 10 hours ago, zr2498 said: A German 9F! Very interesting Dave, I assume this is for a film? Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) I've just commented on the Peterborough North thread with regard to the forthcoming new Bachmann V2. This is one of the pre-production samples I had for assessment at the end of 2019. The production samples are coming soon in numbers, so I'll then have the chance to give them a full test on LB (Bachmann 'filming' them). I'll report accordingly. Edited September 11, 2021 by Tony Wright typo error 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted September 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Very interesting Dave, I assume this is for a film? Regards, Tony. Secrets out! Great that NYMR has had an alternative income during the pandemic - two film productions. This one and a Tom Cruise movie. Dave 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted September 11, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 With talk of forthcoming RTR V2s, I thought I'd rummage through images of some of LB's existing ones............. These are in no particular order, and, unless otherwise stated, made/painted by me. A Nu-Cast example, painted by Geoff Haynes. A much-modified Crownline kit, with a Bachmann tender, painted by Ian Rathbone. A Graeme King resin body on a Comet chassis, towing a Bachmann tender, painted by Geoff Haynes. A less-modified Crownline V2, painted by Ian Rathbone. Another Graeme King resin V2 body on Comet frames, towing a Bachmann tender. A Jamieson example, towing a DMR tender, painted by Ian Rathbone. Another Jamieson one, towing a Nu-Cast tender. One of John Houlden's Crownline V2s. John Houlden's DJH/scratch/Comet V2, now on its EM frames running on Retford. One of a pair of MJT 3D-printed resin bodies on a Comet chassis, with a Bachmann tender, painted by Geoff Haynes. A Nu-Cast V2 towing a DMR tender, started by the late Geoff Brewin, painted by Geoff Haynes. Another Nu-Cast V2. A Jamieson V2, built for Bytham's LNER weekend, painted by Geoff Haynes, and now sold-on. The other MJT V2, this one towing a South Eastern Finecast tender, painted by Geoff Haynes. A Nu-Cast V2, a present from Jesse Sim, rebuilt and repainted, weathered by Geoff Haynes. There are more LB V2s, but I'll have to hunt more for their images. An interesting selection? 37 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted September 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2021 Very interesting to see how good the resin and printed bodies are. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, MJI said: Very interesting to see how good the resin and printed bodies are. I think they are Martin, Especially on top of a Comet set of frames and (in some cases) with a first-rate paint job. As I hope these two further shots show................. This is one of my Graeme King-bodied V2s, with my painting/weathering. It tows a Bachmann tender. And one of my MJT 3D-printed V2 bodies, this one towing a South Eastern Finecast tender. The painting here is the work of Geoff Haynes. I built the Graeme King one about five/six years ago, and the MJT one last year. I wonder, are they substantially better than a Jamieson V2 I built over 40 years ago? Not knowing any professional painters back then, this is all my own work. We look forward in anticipation to the forthcoming Bachmann RTR V2. This is the firm's previous one, tarted up a little by me (new dome, new pony wheels, etc.) and weathered by Tom Foster. Not bad, even given its inaccuracies/deficiencies? Regards, Tony. Edited September 11, 2021 by Tony Wright typo error 16 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Hi Tony, have you ever known Markits axles to be slightly too short? This is the first instance I’ve know, Ive had it on 2 recent builds in EM gauge, all built up on the workbench during lockdown, ran great on rollers and straight bit of track. Only recently I’ve been able to set the layout up after lockdown and when the locos got to points they would bounce over them. I check the back to back and they were too tight to get the back to back gauge in. I know I should have checked them during the building process but I never thought as I’ve never had a problem before, even worse was on the Comet crab which had all its valve gear brackets soldered up (I know it should have been made to bolt out) and so to get at the first axle it all had to be cut away. These were all brand new Markits wheels and axles. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted September 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Michael Delamar said: Hi Tony, have you ever known Markits axles to be slightly too short? This is the first instance I’ve know, Ive had it on 2 recent builds in EM gauge, all built up on the workbench during lockdown, ran great on rollers and straight bit of track. Only recently I’ve been able to set the layout up after lockdown and when the locos got to points they would bounce over them. I check the back to back and they were too tight to get the back to back gauge in. I know I should have checked them during the building process but I never thought as I’ve never had a problem before, even worse was on the Comet crab which had all its valve gear brackets soldered up (I know it should have been made to bolt out) and so to get at the first axle it all had to be cut away. These were all brand new Markits wheels and axles. Short answer from another Tony. Yes! You are not alone. I believe that you can now purchase shim washers with a square hole to allow you to extend the back to back dimension but when I have used Markits wheels/axles in EM I have made my own washers from thin metal with a hole drilled and then squared off with a square file. I made mine from 10 thou thick metal (only one per axle, no need to make two!), which ended up with a back to back at just about spot on 16.5mm. The most recent example was also on recently purchased axles and wheels, so it is still happening with new production. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Cheers Tony, I could maybe try a U shape shim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, Michael Delamar said: Hi Tony, have you ever known Markits axles to be slightly too short? This is the first instance I’ve know, Ive had it on 2 recent builds in EM gauge, all built up on the workbench during lockdown, ran great on rollers and straight bit of track. Only recently I’ve been able to set the layout up after lockdown and when the locos got to points they would bounce over them. I check the back to back and they were too tight to get the back to back gauge in. I know I should have checked them during the building process but I never thought as I’ve never had a problem before, even worse was on the Comet crab which had all its valve gear brackets soldered up (I know it should have been made to bolt out) and so to get at the first axle it all had to be cut away. These were all brand new Markits wheels and axles. And, a short answer from this Tony, 'no'. That said, I've only ever built about 15 EM chassis (compared with over 500 OO ones), so I cannot say my experience in the more-accurate gauge is large. I must admit to never checking as well, but (luckily) the chassis I've built run fine on Retford and other EM layouts. I've never found a Romford/Markits axle short in OO, either. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffer Davies Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, t-b-g said: Short answer from another Tony. Yes! You are not alone. I believe that you can now purchase shim washers with a square hole to allow you to extend the back to back dimension but when I have used Markits wheels/axles in EM I have made my own washers from thin metal with a hole drilled and then squared off with a square file. I made mine from 10 thou thick metal (only one per axle, no need to make two!), which ended up with a back to back at just about spot on 16.5mm. The most recent example was also on recently purchased axles and wheels, so it is still happening with new production. Hi Micheal/Tony, Yep that’s precisely my experience as well. Very strange that the axles seem to be machined consistently too short. A spacing washer on one side seems to do the trick. Frank 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Tony, A better shot. I repeat, I bought her part built at Banbury modex. She was built for me by Brian Wiltshire. He was a Jamieson Master and Coachbogie's Dad. He was a kitbuilding mentor of mine and a dear friend. She's over thirty years old and a basic kit. She's covered a lot of miles and I love her. Regards, Chris. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete55 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, t-b-g said: Short answer from another Tony. Yes! You are not alone. Same answer from me. Have found it a common problem with Markits EM axles....but as t-b-g says, an easy fix with a shim washer, either home made, or as suggested, a commercial product. 247 Developments do a nice little fret of such washers, although they have marketed them for a 00 purpose, but they do the job on the EM axles nicely. Pete 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted September 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, pete55 said: Same answer from me. Have found it a common problem with Markits EM axles....but as t-b-g says, an easy fix with a shim washer, either home made, or as suggested, a commercial product. 247 Developments do a nice little fret of such washers, although they have marketed them for a 00 purpose, but they do the job on the EM axles nicely. Pete Thanks Pete. I knew I had seen some (probably shown by you!) but couldn't remember who had produced them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Sandhole said: Tony, A better shot. I repeat, I bought her part built at Banbury modex. She was built for me by Brian Wiltshire. He was a Jamieson Master and Coachbogie's Dad. He was a kitbuilding mentor of mine and a dear friend. She's over thirty years old and a basic kit. She's covered a lot of miles and I love her. Regards, Chris. Thanks Chris, Here's another shot of my 42 year old Jamieson V2........... This was taken before I replaced her original MW005 motor with a current DJH combo. I also fitted disc wheels to its tender at the same time. Ignorance was bliss! I think a product of its time. Regards, Tony. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted September 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2021 I chatted with Graeme about resin casting. I have seen the V2 mould. I use it for battery boxes, gad cabinets, DMU roof domes and the like. A very useful tool. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 33 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Thanks Chris, Here's another shot of my 42 year old Jamieson V2........... This was taken before I replaced her original MW005 motor with a current DJH combo. I also fitted disc wheels to its tender at the same time. Ignorance was bliss! I think a product of its time. Regards, Tony. Lovely job Tony. Jamieson kits can produce great stuff, these V2s prove that. Regards, Chris. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted September 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2021 Tony, This is my Jamieson V2. The body came off ebay half built and with no chassis. The Comet chassis was a separate ebay purchase which came barely working with a Bachmann body. I painted it myself and chose 60800 on Headstock’s advice as it was one of the few which hauled this sort of tender in the early ‘50s. Regards Andy 15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Michael Delamar said: Hi Tony, have you ever known Markits axles to be slightly too short? This is the first instance I’ve know, Ive had it on 2 recent builds in EM gauge, all built up on the workbench during lockdown, ran great on rollers and straight bit of track. Only recently I’ve been able to set the layout up after lockdown and when the locos got to points they would bounce over them. I check the back to back and they were too tight to get the back to back gauge in. I know I should have checked them during the building process but I never thought as I’ve never had a problem before, even worse was on the Comet crab which had all its valve gear brackets soldered up (I know it should have been made to bolt out) and so to get at the first axle it all had to be cut away. These were all brand new Markits wheels and axles. I might be putting two and two together to make five but the first thing that occurred to me was that for some reason the axles tool might have been set up for 18.0mm gauge instead of 18.2mm. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 10 hours ago, Sandhole said: Lovely job Tony. Jamieson kits can produce great stuff, these V2s prove that. Regards, Chris. Thanks Chris, Returning to the subject of spoked or disc V2 tender wheels: were 16mm disc wheels available over 40 years ago? From memory, the tender wheels of the day were rather crude, with the apertures between the spokes just stamped-out. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, thegreenhowards said: Tony, This is my Jamieson V2. The body came off ebay half built and with no chassis. The Comet chassis was a separate ebay purchase which came barely working with a Bachmann body. I painted it myself and chose 60800 on Headstock’s advice as it was one of the few which hauled this sort of tender in the early ‘50s. Regards Andy Good morning Andy, A splendid job. Thanks for showing us. I still think the Jamieson V2 kit makes up into a very-acceptable model of what many consider to be Gresley's best-looking loco. I still have two running on Little Bytham; 60821 (seen earlier) and this one. I spent a bit more time detailing the cabsides on this one, and it tows a DMR etched-brass tender. The frames are Jamieson originals (with brakes added) and Comet valve gear. The painting is the work of Ian Rathbone. As mentioned, I built a V2 for the 1938 weekend on Little Bytham (which also saw service on Grantham). This, too, was from a Jamieson kit. This also has Jamieson frames (again, with added brakes), but this time the motion is from Nu-Cast. Since it's unlikely that there'll be a repeat '38 weekend on LB, and Grantham is well-served with V2s, I subsequently sold this one on. Geoff Haynes painted it (the slight difference in colour between these two shots is because of my using two different cameras). I think what these images show is that a detailed Jamieson V2 can hold its own with more-modern alternatives; even the forthcoming latest RTR one from Bachmann? Your own painting is much more-laudable. Regards, Tony. Edited September 12, 2021 by Tony Wright to add something 11 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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