Tony Wright Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ian Rathbone said: The V2 is one of my favourites too, though I’ve never built one. This one has been built by Richard Spoors from the 7mm Finney kit and I finished it. Ian R Thanks for showing us this Ian, Along with Tony Geary's V2, one of the finest models of the type? Regards, Tony. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, dibateg said: I always preferred the V2 over the A3, I think the look is more purposeful. I couldn't resist building the Finney one in 7mm scale, even though it is not really suitable for my line - although they did turn on the Bulwell/Basford triangle when the Annesley turntable was out of action, so I do have an excuse.. I don't think I'll run to an impressive fleet of them like Tony though.. Here is 60886 - a GC line regular from York shed, on my weathering turntable... Have you any Pro Scale V2s Tony? I remember Allan Hammett moaned like hell about building the two that I had.. The boiler always looked a bit too long for me.. Regards Tony Good evening Tony, I don't have any Pro-Scale V2s (having built one, that was enough!). As you know, the two we used to run on Stoke and Charwelton (built by Allan and owned by you) ended up as the property of Gilbert Barnatt. Though they were fine on both Stoke and Charwelton, the tighter curves on Peterborough North caused problems; that and also the fact that one of them had a non-insulated, open-framed motor and live chassis, making it DCC-incompatible (the right questions should have been asked). I ended up fixing both, in one way or another. Here's one of them on test on LB after I'd altered it............. The whole boiler/smokebox assembly is too long, though Allan made a good job given the nature of the kit. I think the main difference between your single V2 and the near-score I have is a classic case of quality and quantity. Regards, Tony. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 Thanks for all the prototype A4 shots. One other thing they show is how large the brass spectacle frames are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Eric, I remember those white metal ones, but from where? DJH, in the A1 and A2 kits still supply etched-brass discs to change 16mm spoked wheels into discs (though they no longer supply wheels in their kits). Though some firms might have made 16mm disc wheels 40+ years ago (I don't think I've ever seen any), the 'standard' was the stamped-out 16mm Jackson spoked wheels, hence my erroneous use of them on that V2's tender. They were all that was available at the time, and I knew no better. Regards, Tony. IIRC, the whitemetal inserts for Jackson/Romford wheels came from MJT. They also did detailed centres for the 14mm disc coach wheels, a few of which I still have. John Edited September 12, 2021 by Dunsignalling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted September 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2021 Hindsight is telling me I should have taken more photos, or at least made sure the ones I did take were in focus.... Maybe these are of some use? SNG at York in 2018. 5 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 The photos above reminded me of mine from 2017. What's also interesting in this shot of a V fronted cab is that there does appear to be a very thin extra band on the front of the V which maybe what Bachmann has tried to reproduce on its V2 albeit much too thick? Andrew 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Been a long time since I posted anything. It is interesting to compare the A4 front of the cab roof to the V2's The Finney kits I have been building for about 2 years or more. (they are around just not moved forward for almost a year!) The V2's have a arc for the "humped" section of the rood to the V point where the A4's as we can see have the same point but no humped section. Also SNG above has a similar triangular section to the rear of this humped section but it is truncated by the removable rectangle where as the V2's stops short. Other than enjoying V2's one thing that keeps showing up on all the photos of the models is the 2 oil pot manifolds that are missing under the smoke boxes on the foot plate. Yes the enginemen must swear at them as they trip over them! I have also noticed there is little reason for them to be installed north south or east west as I have seen both versions on the prototype photos. The Oil pipe runs seem to vary from neat and tidy to a bowl full of spaghetti! I have been distracted this year by "buildings" but I am slowly looking at my loco kits to get more completed on them in the medium term. I seem to have had a hankering for a southern layout... hence all the buildings, stations, and typical Southern style infrastructure. Well it could be dealing with a Southern modelers estate... well Bullied did learn from Sir Nigel Gresley. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Chamby Posted September 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 09/09/2021 at 21:39, zr2498 said: I'm currently working on yet another bridge. The plan is to create a bridge based on the marvelous Findorn Viaduct (as below), which is a lattice truss deck bridge. It will be converted to double track, and I'm hoping to use many of the components from a CVMW double track Parker truss bridge. Quite a task , so lots of kit bashing and extra bits of styrene will be needed. I'm still undecided about the track. The existing rails are laid on standard ballasted sleepers with internal guard rails. I would like the option of using longitunal sleepers as below But the bridge would need the guard rails as well. I have hunted high and low for a design / picture of running rails and guard rails laid on longitudinal timbers with the transoms / tie bars gauging the width. Any help with this would be appreciated. I seem to remember seeing this formation on an exhibtion layout but was that based on a prototype design? Dave *Cough* years ago, I faced a similar situation with my Swiss metre gauge layout, when I wanted to model one of the characteristic box girder bridges on the Montreux Oberland Bahn in HO scale. This is the bridge I wanted to model: The solution I eventually adopted was to kit-bash the bridge kit made by Roco, Cat. No. 40080. The kit structure would result in something far too heavyweight looking for this bridge, but I found the plastic soft enough to carve easily, and it was straightforward to add additional cross bracing using plastruct section, resulting in an appropriately lighter-weight looking bridge. It required quite a heavy butchering, including reducing the width of the decking to accommodate 12mm gauge track, rather then the intended 16.5mm. It was time-consuming work but I was pleased with the end result. For the intervening years the completed structure has sat in a box, still waiting for the layout to be built... Your post got me thinking, so I dug the bridge out of its box for an airing, and took a few pictures: the green sections are original unmodified kit parts for comparison, so you can see how it was cut down. 13 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted September 13, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 Two new models from Hornby just in for photography and review in BRM................ Tapping into nostalgia, the substantial packaging echoes that of the Hornby Dublo of my youth, though blue/white stripes signified three-rail back then. Since both these are two-rail, perhaps the broad stripes should be red. Both these models are substantially different from the norm of today in that their loco bodies are die-cast (again, nostalgia but these aren't the crude things of the past). The 'Princess Coronation'. There are extra parts to be added. And the original 'Merchant Navy' (again, without the extra parts added). I've yet to test both these on Little Bytham, but on the test track they run superbly. Such is their weight that huge trains should be taken with ease. I'll report accordingly. 29 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Nice models - shame about the lack of trailing truck flanges, and their inability to follow the tracks. John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I've not got the Hornby Dublo version. But my Hornby Duchesses and Bulleid Pacifics had the flanged trailing truck wheels in the box. Can't speak for the LNER or BR Pacifics as I don't have any Hornby versions. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 8 hours ago, cctransuk said: Nice models - shame about the lack of trailing truck flanges, and their inability to follow the tracks. John Isherwood. Good morning John, Flanged pony truck wheels are provided in the boxes, for those who have generous curves. Regards, Tony. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2021 14 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Two new models from Hornby just in for photography and review in BRM................ Tapping into nostalgia, the substantial packaging echoes that of the Hornby Dublo of my youth, though blue/white stripes signified three-rail back then. Since both these are two-rail, perhaps the broad stripes should be red. Both these models are substantially different from the norm of today in that their loco bodies are die-cast (again, nostalgia but these aren't the crude things of the past). The 'Princess Coronation'. There are extra parts to be added. And the original 'Merchant Navy' (again, without the extra parts added). I've yet to test both these on Little Bytham, but on the test track they run superbly. Such is their weight that huge trains should be taken with ease. I'll report accordingly. Interesting that both the green and the orange are different shades even though they both represent the same livery and from the same manufacturer! Neither rendition as convincing as Bachmann have achieved on the V2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said: Interesting that both the green and the orange are different shades even though they both represent the same livery and from the same manufacturer! Neither rendition as convincing as Bachmann have achieved on the V2. Indeed, they are different. I think the 'MN' is nearer to the correct colours in both overall finish and lining. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2021 Hello Tony, Do you happen to know if the bodies are cast from Mazak? If so, I hope Hornby have ensured they don't go the same way as some chassis have, i.e. distortion. Kind Regards, Brian 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Sanderson Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 14 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Two new models from Hornby just in for photography and review in BRM................ Tapping into nostalgia, the substantial packaging echoes that of the Hornby Dublo of my youth, though blue/white stripes signified three-rail back then. Since both these are two-rail, perhaps the broad stripes should be red. Both these models are substantially different from the norm of today in that their loco bodies are die-cast (again, nostalgia but these aren't the crude things of the past). The 'Princess Coronation'. There are extra parts to be added. And the original 'Merchant Navy' (again, without the extra parts added). I've yet to test both these on Little Bytham, but on the test track they run superbly. Such is their weight that huge trains should be taken with ease. I'll report accordingly. Looking at the box art, City of Leicester looks to be intended to have the same finish as the MN, but has turned out completely different! Looks like they had some paint left over from the Thompson Pacific's... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Roger Sunderland Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 Hello Tony you asked how people were getting on with the kits you sold. These are my efforts , to date. The Caprotti has had quite a few mods, including a centralised, sprung front bogie but the black 5 is, more or less, built as intended by DJH. Both need to be weathered and require details such as lamps, crew, glazing and coal. 23 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 49 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Indeed, they are different. I think the 'MN' is nearer to the correct colours in both overall finish and lining. Regards, Tony. I once sprayed a King Arthur and an unrebuilt West Country in Malachite at the same time, using the same paint, same undercoat, etc. They looked to be completely different shades from certain angles. I put it down to large flat sides on one, compared to the traditional round boiler on the other fooling the eye. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Good morning John, Flanged pony truck wheels are provided in the boxes, for those who have generous curves. Regards, Tony. Personally I prefer old style swivelling pony trucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, john new said: Personally I prefer old style swivelling pony trucks. Looked awful on the previous version of the Princess Coronation 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Good morning John, Flanged pony truck wheels are provided in the boxes, for those who have generous curves. Regards, Tony. Hi Tony Fabulous pair of locomotives especially the Merchant Navy Class. You have confirmed they come with Flanged pony truck wheels as an option, I cannot understand why these were not provided with the recent Thompson Pacific’s? I did fit a spare one from a Hornby A4 to my A2/2 60501 but the axel was too thick in dia and the wheel would not turn. Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, landscapes said: Hi Tony Fabulous pair of locomotives especially the Merchant Navy Class. You have confirmed they come with Flanged pony truck wheels as an option, I cannot understand why these were not provided with the recent Thompson Pacific’s? I did fit a spare one from a Hornby A4 to my A2/2 60501 but the axel was too thick in dia and the wheel would not turn. Regards David Money, Money, Money! The A2 variants were very much built down to a price. Bernard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Bernard Lamb said: Money, Money, Money! The A2 variants were very much built down to a price. Bernard Hi thank you. It’s a shame as the flanged wheels must have cost a few pennies to produce. Also I have just seen the A2/2’s on sale brand new for as little as £135.00 so there is quite a price variation depending on where you buy. Regards David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 13/09/2021 at 17:42, Chamby said: *Cough* years ago, I faced a similar situation with my Swiss metre gauge layout, when I wanted to model one of the characteristic box girder bridges on the Montreux Oberland Bahn in HO scale. This is the bridge I wanted to model: The solution I eventually adopted was to kit-bash the bridge kit made by Roco, Cat. No. 40080. The kit structure would result in something far too heavyweight looking for this bridge, but I found the plastic soft enough to carve easily, and it was straightforward to add additional cross bracing using plastruct section, resulting in an appropriately lighter-weight looking bridge. It required quite a heavy butchering, including reducing the width of the decking to accommodate 12mm gauge track, rather then the intended 16.5mm. It was time-consuming work but I was pleased with the end result. For the intervening years the completed structure has sat in a box, still waiting for the layout to be built... Your post got me thinking, so I dug the bridge out of its box for an airing, and took a few pictures: the green sections are original unmodified kit parts for comparison, so you can see how it was cut down. Would love to see the layout that this great bridge will sit in. Any plans? I have just started a thread on the lattice girder deck truss bridge - kit bashing. It's going to take a good deal of time, but very few rivets to punch (unlike Tony's Little Bytham bridge). Thank Goodness! https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/167093-lattice-girder-deck-truss-bridge-kit-bashing/ Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, landscapes said: Hi thank you. It’s a shame as the flanged wheels must have cost a few pennies to produce. Also I have just seen the A2/2’s on sale brand new for as little as £135.00 so there is quite a price variation depending on where you buy. Regards David I think Hornby stopped including flanged wheelsets some time before the A2s came along. IIRC, my most recent 3 or 4 Rebuilt Light Pacifics didn't have them, and nor did my Ellerman Lines. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now