Wright writes.....

[MJI]

I buy a lot of second hand stock and I find that about a quarter has worn axle holes.

 

Will be brass bearing some Airfix B sets.

 

Yet the Airfix B4s seem to hold up well, I fit Replica bogies to Limas.

[Barry Ten]

20 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

To press brass bearings into the sideframes using a 'dry' soldering iron, lining them up with the bottom of the (now) vertical slot. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

In similar vein I altered the ride height of these Hornby (ex-Lima) CCT vans by melting in bearings, then gently nudging them up a mm or so.  Apologies for the rubbish picture.

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by Barry Ten

[Theakerr]

 Over the years I have found that the axle housings collect crud and sometimes just cleaning it out with the 'Truck Tuner' (Micro Mark tools) will significantly free up the running

[Tony Wright]

On 21/10/2020 at 12:49, Barry Ten said:

Very much in the realm of RTR, but here's a Hornby Black 5 (we don't see many Black 5s on here, do we?) that I've done a few jobs on.

 

 

It's had some Brassmaster detailing parts added (but not all of them), new pony wheels, renumbering to a Bath-allocated loco (the only one I could find that had the right top-feed and chimney for this model) and some weathering. I repainted the valve gear in silver with a bit of black and brown mixed in, which I think helps to bulk it out a little.

 

The model had been in storage for a few years and was a total non-runner when I tried it. But after some encouragement everything loosened up again and it's now as good as new. Presumably the grease had hardened on the gears and bearings.

 

It's depicted here on an Exmouth-Cleethorpes train.

 

Al

Good evening Al,

 

'(we don't see many Black 5s on here, do we?)'

 

To redress the balance?

 

 

 

 

In the case of these three (all 4mm), I've forgotten their origins, but they're rather nice. 

 

 

Bob Paddison's Stephenson link motion Black Five.

 

 

And Iain Henderson's Caprotti one. 

 

 

I built one in O Gauge, from a Tower/DJH kit, which Ian Rathbone painted.

 

I've also repaired some, and detailed a Hornby example using Brassmasters' parts which featured on the Right Track 4 DVD.

 

I also built a Comet Caprotti Black Five, which featured in BRM. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by Tony Wright

[Tony Wright]

A sad tale for today..............

 

Mortality is 100% inevitable.

 

 

Eight hours ago this 42 year old Kitmaster DELTIC was in one piece. Then, in attempting some routine maintenance, during the journey from Little Bytham to my workshop, I dropped it! On to stone flags! It did not survive, though, astonishingly it's old modified Lima chassis did; and, it still runs fine. Amazing.

 

Now, some questions if I may?

 

Are Dapol DELTIC (ex-Kitmaster) kits still available (and with them the name transfers)? 

 

Are Bachmann prototype DELTICS still available?

 

There's always the one elder son Tom has been building, but that's now in EM Gauge. 

 

I'd like to replace the dear old smashed-to-bits thing in one way or another. 

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

It can still be seen running - it will appear on LB during the forthcoming virtual exhibition. 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by Tony Wright
typo error

[BlackRat]

No idea who told me this, whoever it was it was yonks ago....... but if there was a problem with sticky wheels then a poke around in the 'axle box' with a 4b pencil would keep things running smoothly.

 

These days I also swear by a 'Truck tuner' something now I wouldn't be without.

 

If it doesn't have brass bearings, then it gets a good twiddling round with the tuner.

 

Its amazing the crud that comes out!

 

Tony....,l re the Deltic, there's always plenty of 'old' kits on EBay. The new kits are made from soft ( to save the dies I guess) recycled plastic and the plastic is softer and not as crisp as the kits from the 60's and 70's.

Edited October 22, 2020 by BlackRat

[Brocp]

http://www.locomotionmodels.com/exclusive-models/diesel-and-electric-models/dp1-deltic-prototype-east-coast-version.htm

 

Still seems available Tony.

[john new]

8 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

A sad tale for today..............

 

Mortality is 100% inevitable.

 

 

Eight hours ago this 42 year old Kitmaster DELTIC was in one piece. Then, in attempting some routine maintenance, during the journey from Little Bytham to my workshop, I dropped it! On to stone flags! It did not survive, though, astonishingly it's old modified Lima chassis did; and, it still runs fine. Amazing.

 

Now, some questions if I may?

 

Are Dapol DELTIC (ex-Kitmaster) kits still available (and with them the name transfers)? 

 

Are Bachmann prototype DELTICS still available?

 

There's always the one elder son Tom has been building, but that's now in EM Gauge. 

 

I'd like to replace the dear old smashed-to-bits thing in one way or another. 

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

It can still be seen running - it will appear on LB during the forthcoming virtual exhibition. 

 

 

 

 

Deltic kits are still in the Dapol range - see  https://www.Dapol.co.uk/shop/model-accessories/self-assembly-oo-kits/c009-deltic-diesel-locomotive-511

[grob1234]

Its not that twin motor one that can do about 40 coaches is it?!

[Tony Wright]

A request, please, for Nick Logan.

 

If you're reading this, Nick, will you please email me? I can't find your email address. The computer seems to have misplaced it!

 

Many thanks,

 

Tony. 

[Barry Ten]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

Good evening Al,

 

'(we don't see many Black 5s on here, do we?)'

 

To redress the balance?

 

 

 

 

In the case of these three (all 4mm), I've forgotten their origins, but they're rather nice. 

 

 

Bob Paddison's Stephenson link motion Black Five.

 

 

And Iain Henderson's Caprotti one. 

 

 

I built one in O Gauge, from a Tower/DJH kit, which Ian Rathbone painted.

 

I've also repaired some, and detailed a Hornby example using Brassmasters' parts which featured on the Right Track 4 DVD.

 

I also built a Comet Caprotti Black Five, which featured in BRM. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks, Tony. Very nice indeed to see those.

 

I don't believe I've ever seen one in the experimental green liveries (there were three, weren't there, and only lined on one side?) but it's certainly of historical interest. Your 7mm one looks suitably imposing.

 

Many thanks,

 

Al

[Barry Ten]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

A sad tale for today..............

 

Mortality is 100% inevitable.

 

 

 

Eight hours ago this 42 year old Kitmaster DELTIC was in one piece. Then, in attempting some routine maintenance, during the journey from Little Bytham to my workshop, I dropped it! On to stone flags! It did not survive, though, astonishingly it's old modified Lima chassis did; and, it still runs fine. Amazing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is the body beyond salvation, Tony? I've often thought "that's that!" after dropping something but after coming back to it with a clear head, things sometimes look more salvageable, if that's a word. If plastic cracks quite cleanly, it's surprisingly amenable to being reassembled with minimal signs of damage.

[landscapes]

2 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

A sad tale for today..............

 

Mortality is 100% inevitable.

 

 

Eight hours ago this 42 year old Kitmaster DELTIC was in one piece. Then, in attempting some routine maintenance, during the journey from Little Bytham to my workshop, I dropped it! On to stone flags! It did not survive, though, astonishingly it's old modified Lima chassis did; and, it still runs fine. Amazing.

 

Now, some questions if I may?

 

Are Dapol DELTIC (ex-Kitmaster) kits still available (and with them the name transfers)? 

 

Are Bachmann prototype DELTICS still available?

 

There's always the one elder son Tom has been building, but that's now in EM Gauge. 

 

I'd like to replace the dear old smashed-to-bits thing in one way or another. 

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

It can still be seen running - it will appear on LB during the forthcoming virtual exhibition. 

 

 

 

 

Hi Tony

 

There are two of the Bachmann Prototype Deltic’s for sale now on EBay both pre owned one at £149 and one at £169 both look very good.

 

Regards

 

David

 

[Northmoor]

14 minutes ago, landscapes said:

There are two of the Bachmann Prototype Deltic’s for sale now on EBay both pre owned one at £149 and one at £169 both look very good.

 

I'm sure they're very nice but Tony's ex-Deltic ("It is no more") had two motors and if required, could just about pull his car in and out of the garage.  If the chassis still works, someone of Tony's talents could probably knock the plastic kit together and paint it in an afternoon, although there'd be no soldering to do and he would have to use gl*e...... 

[nerron]

Tony, if you do decide to use the Airfix/Dapol kit Fox do a very good set of transfers and etched maker's plates.

[Andy Hayter]

Tony

 

Deltic kit

Dapol C009

 

I don't know if it is in production but the auction site you don't use had a few unbuilt ones.

[jamie92208]

There isca Kitmaster society that sell off original kits. They used to have a stand at Warley so Paul Jones may well have contact details.

 

Jamie

Edited October 23, 2020 by jamie92208

[St Enodoc]

1 hour ago, jamie92208 said:

There isca Kitmaster society that sell off original kits. They used to have a stand at Warley so Paul Jones may well have contact details.

 

Jamie

I wonder whether they have them in the original Shredded Wheat packaging, which is where mine came from?

[Jesse Sim]

The GNR ballast wagon is now finished. 

[landscapes]

8 hours ago, Northmoor said:

I'm sure they're very nice but Tony's ex-Deltic ("It is no more") had two motors and if required, could just about pull his car in and out of the garage.  If the chassis still works, someone of Tony's talents could probably knock the plastic kit together and paint it in an afternoon, although there'd be no soldering to do and he would have to use gl*e...... 

Hi

I am sure that would be the case, but one of Tony’s questions was Are the Bachmann Deltics still available?

 

so I assumed he was referring to the Prototype Deltic. 
 

David

[micklner]

12 minutes ago, Jesse Sim said:

The GNR ballast wagon is now finished. 

The vehicles all have wooden underframes, other than the Bogie vehicle. The solebars should be the body colour not Black, only the metal parts were painted Black.

[Dylan Sanderson]

1 hour ago, Jesse Sim said:

The GNR ballast wagon is now finished. 

Very nice work champ... Do you know how long they survived in this condition? I kind of fancy a rake on my layout now I've mastered the art of kit building. Already got a kit for the birdcage break van.

[Chamby]

That well known and widely advertised model railway establishment in Liverpool has one Dapol DP1 kit left in stock at the time of writing, at £10.34.

 

The one in Sheffield also shows it in stock, at £11.00.

 

So they are still around.

 

Edited October 23, 2020 by Chamby
Added info.

[Leander]

On the subject of Black 5s:

44765 - Hornby body and mechanism converted to EM gauge by Mike Edge and weathered by Barry Oliver. The tender is a Comet 4000 gallon part-welded type.

 

45021 and 45253 are both Hornby models converted to EM gauge by Tim Easter who also weathered the locos but disposed of them when he abandoned his projected North Wales layout.

 

Both find a home (in more normal times) running on either John Brighton's 'Millhouses' or John Elliott's 'Leeds City North'.

 

Edited October 24, 2020 by Leander
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[Barry O]

@Barry Ten mentioned Black 5s.. a particular favourite of mine

 

a Ks model built by my late father - still using Ks wheels

 

 

a very, very old Ks Black 5 built by @Nicktoix.. complete with cast coal load in the bunker

 

 

a Model Loco Black 5 - remotored by me and repainted/weathered by me.

 

 

another Model Loco Black 5 bought from Frizinghall for £50 a long time ago

 

I also have had a few Hornby Black 5s... now I have only one

 

 

the tender underframe has been modified to get rid of the "step"

 

And the latest purchase.. another Ks one to which I have fitted a Comet pony truck

 

 

You really can never have enough Black 5s!

 

Baz

 

and missed the other Model Loco Black 5..

Edited October 23, 2020 by Barry O