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5 hours ago, richard i said:

Help please.

there was discussion on transfers on here so can someone help.

I am not getting on with these transfers. The water slide are old and break apart when lifted off the backing. The pressfix do not come away from the paper so you can see exactly where they need to line up. The writing on the paper does not exactly match the transfer. What do people paint on to save old transfers? What is the solution to the press fix ones?

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many thanks richard 

 

Hi Richard.  Your photo suggests that you are cutting through the full depth of support paper when using the transfers.  With HMRS transfers, the instructions advise scoring round the transfer with a sharp knife and lifting the tissue layer off the backing card... if you do this, the tissue is transparent and locating the transfer on the model is a doddle.   (I discovered this the hard way too!).  Lift the transfers like this:

 

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Hope this helps?

 

Phil.

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6 hours ago, richard i said:

Help please.

there was discussion on transfers on here so can someone help.

I am not getting on with these transfers. The water slide are old and break apart when lifted off the backing. The pressfix do not come away from the paper so you can see exactly where they need to line up. The writing on the paper does not exactly match the transfer. What do people paint on to save old transfers? What is the solution to the press fix ones?

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many thanks richard 

 

Waterslide - old and cracked.

 

You need this - https://www.models2u.co.uk/contents/en-uk/p8449_micro-liquid-decal-film.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAj9iBBhCJARIsAE9qRtAjiPMAiGYpaVeCiCstWcVXB_iVNJ1CnBI0W-cjyQAmkaP5zl8JzRgaAoYXEALw_wcB

 

Paint it over the transfer whilst still on the sheet, and allow to dry.

 

The transfer should now work as intended but, if not, apply another coat of the liquid to the sheet.

 

John Isherwood.

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4 hours ago, 60027Merlin said:

Another Hornby A2/2 surfacing this time done up to suit its last 16 or so months.

 

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That's beautifully done, Eric. Is there any evidence of A2/2.s in Scotland after the transfer south?. I struggle to justify mine north of Newcastle, not that it stops me...

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1 hour ago, Chamby said:

 

Hi Richard.  Your photo suggests that you are cutting through the full depth of support paper when using the transfers.  With HMRS transfers, the instructions advise scoring round the transfer with a sharp knife and lifting the tissue layer off the backing card... if you do this, the tissue is transparent and locating the transfer on the model is a doddle.   (I discovered this the hard way too!).  Lift the transfers like this:

 

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Hope this helps?

 

Phil.

I'd assumed in my earlier remarks that Richard and all others were doing the above, as per the instructions. Slight moistening of just that thin tissue layer that lifts off the card with each individual item is still of benefit for positioning the transfer in some situations, as the tissue becomes much more transparent when even slightly damp.

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15 minutes ago, rowanj said:

That's beautifully done, Eric. Is there any evidence of A2/2.s in Scotland after the transfer south?. I struggle to justify mine north of Newcastle, not that it stops me...

 

The three shedded at York (60501/2/3) were occasional visitors to The Waverley and Haymarket Shed during the 50s and 1960. However the other three from New England were highly unlikely to reach here.

 

Now you can safely go for all three!

 

Eric

 

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6 hours ago, 60027Merlin said:

Another Hornby A2/2 surfacing this time done up to suit its last 16 or so months.

 

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Hi Eric

 

Your A2/2 60501 looks fantastic, how did you manage to darken the green livery which is a massive improvement on the Hornby factory livery?

 

Regards

 

David

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5 hours ago, 60027Merlin said:

Another Hornby A2/2 surfacing this time done up to suit its last 16 or so months.

 

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Eric,

 

I like that look, particularly the colour which is much improved. Is that just varnish/ T cut and weathering or did you respray it? also, how did you do the jiggle in the ejector pipe?

 

Andy

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3 hours ago, Chamby said:

 

Hi Richard.  Your photo suggests that you are cutting through the full depth of support paper when using the transfers.  With HMRS transfers, the instructions advise scoring round the transfer with a sharp knife and lifting the tissue layer off the backing card... if you do this, the tissue is transparent and locating the transfer on the model is a doddle.   (I discovered this the hard way too!).  Lift the transfers like this:

 

IMG_4352.jpg.29502c72c3e15ea1afe4973480db4b88.jpg

 

Hope this helps?

 

Phil.

I had looked to do this but there does not seem to be this mid layer before the paper, to be able to lift them. I might try the wetting or shaving the paper so it gets more see through. 
thank you for all the advice from everyone.

richard 

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3 hours ago, rowanj said:

That's beautifully done, Eric. Is there any evidence of A2/2.s in Scotland after the transfer south?. I struggle to justify mine north of Newcastle, not that it stops me...

Hi

 

As Eric has already confirmed the first three members of the  A2/2 class were all shedded at York 50A and did visit the Edinburgh area in the late 1950’s and 1960.

 

I do have photographs showing 60502 and 60503 on Haymarket MPD in 1959 & 1960.

 

And an undated photo of 60501 also in Edinburgh area with early tender crest so I assume the mid 1950’s

 

Regards

 

David

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5 hours ago, cctransuk said:

 

Waterslide - old and cracked.

 

You need this - https://www.models2u.co.uk/contents/en-uk/p8449_micro-liquid-decal-film.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAj9iBBhCJARIsAE9qRtAjiPMAiGYpaVeCiCstWcVXB_iVNJ1CnBI0W-cjyQAmkaP5zl8JzRgaAoYXEALw_wcB

 

Paint it over the transfer whilst still on the sheet, and allow to dry.

 

The transfer should now work as intended but, if not, apply another coat of the liquid to the sheet.

 

John Isherwood.

Thanks for this, this might be just the answer to my problem. 
richard 

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On 23/02/2021 at 21:33, davidw said:

Would you know if any v2's were still in black (other than grime) by 1960?

 

On 24/02/2021 at 09:11, Tony Wright said:

Though I don't know for sure, I'd be surprised if any V2s were still in black (officially) by 1960. Certainly, in Bytham's set year (1958) there would still be a few in BR lined black, all with the early totem (there'd be some in green carrying the early totem as well). 

 

I thought I'd read about this somewhere, as I quite fancy a black one myself, and have now found an answer in the RCTS 'Green Book'.  Apparently 60843 was the last V2 in black, when it went into works for overhaul in August 1959.

 

In 'Working Steam: Gresley V2s' (Gavin Morrison) there is a picture of 60855 (at Wellingborough, of all places!) in green livery with the original BR emblem on the tender.  I don't know whether this was the only one, but the Green Book says painting V2s green started in December 1956 and the late emblem was introduced in March 1957.

 

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22 minutes ago, 31A said:

 

 

I thought I'd read about this somewhere, as I quite fancy a black one myself, and have now found an answer in the RCTS 'Green Book'.  Apparently 60843 was the last V2 in black, when it went into works for overhaul in August 1959.

 

In 'Working Steam: Gresley V2s' (Gavin Morrison) there is a picture of 60855 (at Wellingborough, of all places!) in green livery with the original BR emblem on the tender.  I don't know whether this was the only one, but the Green Book says painting V2s green started in December 1956 and the late emblem was introduced in March 1957.

 

According to Yeadon vol 4 there were 11 which had the early emblem in green livery including 60884. This info is in a caption of a picture of said engine on p42.

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1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

The old V2 given to me by Jesse Sim has now been 'finished'. 

 

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The vivid green has long gone and I've now numbered/lined it; yes, I know the valances should be lined, but transfer lining fights all the way with this, and it was often scuffed off in service. Anyway, weathering is still to come. 

 

This loco is something of a paradox. It's certainly a V2 (and far superior to the much newer - though soon to be superseded - Bachmann offering), but the mechanism is arcane. Painting the visible parts of the Jepson motor (not the commutator, of course) will disguise it a little. However, a Comet set of frames (which include brakes) with a can motor/gearbox combo will be the eventual 'fix'. That said, this really goes like stink, and on a layout, at high speed?

 

Who originally built it, no one knows, though it's well-made. 

 

Shots in action on LB later....................... 

Gee wiz you don’t muck around, she looks terrific. I’m glad it’s gone somewhere wanted, I could have finished it off but I’m concentrating on builds that aren’t RTR. Which I think is smart, exploit what the RTR market has to offer and kit build the rest. 

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16 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:

Eric,

 

I like that look, particularly the colour which is much improved. Is that just varnish/ T cut and weathering or did you respray it? also, how did you do the jiggle in the ejector pipe?

 

Andy

 

Andy & David,

 

I re-lined the boiler and tender to cover the red/black/red lining. The cab lining was not too bad so I left it on.

 

The ejector pipe comes off easily and I made a new one from .9 mm wire which fitted in to the body OK.

 

I dry brushed matt black and BR dull green on quite a bit of it and once i was happy with that it got a coat of Klear. A day or so later when I had more time I gave it a slight dusting here and there with Carrs weathering powders. The smokebox was painted with Humbrol metallic black and also dirtied up a bit.

 

There are no definitive steps to follow as I just make it up as I go along and on another loco I could have made use of a few other paints/powders. As I am doing a painting/weathering job if things are not looking as I imagined then I just ad lib it to try to get there. Not very scientific I know but hopefully you will get the drift.

 

Eric

  

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1 hour ago, Adam88 said:

This should be of interest to WW readers.  A venue worth visiting when we are allowed to move around again.  I assume that Green Arrow, because of its name, was never painted in black.  It looks superb in LNER livery.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-56183067

Green Arrow would have received black in the war years  and was in lined mixed traffic black until the mid late 50s

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3 hours ago, Jesse Sim said:

Gee wiz you don’t muck around, she looks terrific. I’m glad it’s gone somewhere wanted, I could have finished it off but I’m concentrating on builds that aren’t RTR. Which I think is smart, exploit what the RTR market has to offer and kit build the rest. 

I'm glad you like it Jesse,

 

Once I get my teeth into a job, there's no time to muck around (though I frequently muck it up!).

 

I think the hobby is full of folk who are going to get on with something; one day. They procrastinate, dither and lack motivation, convincing themselves that the 'time isn't right'. If they're not careful, they'll go to their graves waiting for the right time. They also convince themselves that they don't have the skills and will probably muck things up. The result is instead of actually trying to make something, they're entirely reliant on RTR/RTP or on others to do their modelling for them. They are participants in the hobby (it has room for all), but I wonder how fulfilled they really are............ They possess things rather than create them. 

 

If I may use you as an example of the antithesis of this type.............. When I first met you, you were unsure of how to proceed with your model-making. However, you quickly got going (more due to your own motivation than anything I or others suggested), got stuck in, didn't muck around, accepted constructive criticism, and now your commendable efforts speak for themselves. 

 

Rather a success story, I'd say.

 

And, thanks once more for giving me the V2. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony.  

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1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

Do Nu-Cast V2s (made-up or still as kits) appear often on eBay?  

 

Yes, indeed they do and quite regularly.

I recently picked one up for yet another lockdown project to do the unique 60813 - see here!

 

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8 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

The old V2 given to me by Jesse Sim has now been 'finished'. 

 

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The vivid green has long gone and I've now numbered/lined it; yes, I know the valances should be lined, but transfer lining fights all the way with this, and it was often scuffed off in service. Anyway, weathering is still to come. 

 

This loco is something of a paradox. It's certainly a V2 (and far superior to the much newer - though soon to be superseded - Bachmann offering), but the mechanism is arcane. Painting the visible parts of the Jepson motor (not the commutator, of course) will disguise it a little. However, a Comet set of frames (which include brakes) with a can motor/gearbox combo will be the eventual 'fix'. That said, this really goes like stink, and on a layout, at high speed?

 

Who originally built it, no one knows, though it's well-made. 

 

Shots in action on LB later....................... 

Tony,  I really like that oily steel look on the side rods. How did you achieve that please?

 

Regards, Roy.

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1 hour ago, ScRSG said:

 

Yes, indeed they do and quite regularly.

I recently picked one up for yet another lockdown project to do the unique 60813 - see here!

 

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Chas

Thanks Chas,

 

Was this loco already built, and you completed it? Or, was it an untouched kit? 

 

What a weird contraption that was on 60813. I assume it was successful in lifting steam? If so, why was it not perpetuated on any other member of the class? 

 

I like Nu-Cast V2s, having built well over a dozen (mainly in the past for customers). With the donation of Jesse's, that makes four on LB now.  

 

The oldest (now getting on for 40 years old) originally ran on Stoke Summit.........

 

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This was in the days when I not only built my locos but painted them as well.

 

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It also saw regular service on Charwelton. 

 

And now sees use on Little Bytham................

 

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It came originally with a white metal lump for a chassis. Disliking this, I scratch-built one for it, using the Nu-Cast motion. 

 

Given my painting limitations, I think it's still 'adequate' as a layout loco. 

 

Some little time ago, I acquired a Nu-Cast V2 from the estate of the late Geoff Brewin. 

 

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Geoff had almost completed it, using (naturally) a Comet set of frames. I completed it, adding a DMR tender. 

 

Geoff Haynes then painted it for me.

 

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A couple of years ago I found an untouched Nu-Cast V2 in a box I'd long forgotten about, so I made it. It, too, had a white metal chassis, so I built a Comet one for it.

 

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Geoff Haynes also painted this one for me.

 

About three years ago I bought a made-up Nu-cast V2 from a friend.

 

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It had an XO4-type motor which resembled a chain saw in its tone, so I fitted a more modern combination. Then sold it to another friend (I hope it still runs fine, Andy). 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, [email protected] said:

Tony,  I really like that oily steel look on the side rods. How did you achieve that please?

 

Regards, Roy.

Thanks Roy,

 

It's a mixture of matt grey/brown/black Humbrol enamels, mixed arbitrarily and applied with a small sable. Once dry, it's liberally oiled. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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3 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

 

A crew will be fitted after weathering, and it also needs a fall plate (not to mention brakes). 

 

Brakes.

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