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22 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

Just one little criticism, which I hope you'll take as constructive.

 

I'm guessing the signal represents a real one, but you have "moved" the bridge to provide a scenic break. As modelled, the signal would not become visible to the driver until the train emerged from under the road bridge. Prototypically, it would either be "off scene" on the approach side of the bridge, or mounted on a tall straight post lifting it high enough to be sighted over the top. If the latter, it should also be tall enough to prevent vehicles using the lane potentially obstructing it. 

 

Other than that, just fabulously atmospheric work. Nice to see you back with modelling mojo reactivated.

 

John

Hi John, 

Thanks. GC had the same criticism. But I was uneasily aware of this. Two points: the first is the answer I gave to GC somewhere above whereby a banner repeater is used at the other end of the cutting as is the case at Kimberley. Secondly the signal may not be permanent there. It's been in my plans to replace it at some time,  by a scratch built example either the other side of the bridge or of the gallows type when other work is completed. But, for the time being, I can live with it.

 

 

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5 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

I don't see why not.

I'm afraid it's a bit more difficult than that, the insulated brush holder is screwed into a plastic bush, the other one directly into the brass frame. It used to be possible to buy spare insulated brush sets, I've used these in the distant past. You could cannibalise a dead one to get another insulated brush assembly but you would also need to drill out the brass frame to take it.

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9 hours ago, Chas Levin said:

Good evening Tony, another thing that shot clearly illustrates is how fabulous those 'flying by' shots look! I think they come closer than many other types of photos of models to giving the illusion of reality. They really capture the sense of movement!

Thanks Chas,

 

The process of taking panning shots is very hit and miss. I set the D3 on 'burst mode', with the ASA at about 300, the aperture wide open, giving a shutter speed of about a 50th of a second, and set the locos' speeds accordingly. About one in 20 attempts is 'passable' (thank goodness I don't use film any more)...................

 

Some examples................

 

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This is very typical. A nice sense of speed and nicely-blurred motion, but the loco itself is too blurred.

 

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The loco itself is sharper, but the motion isn't quite as effective.

 

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Success! 

 

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The motion isn't blurred enough here.

 

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Smaller-wheeled locos have to be driven faster to get the blurred motion look (in this case, not quite fast enough. 

 

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And, I have tried fake smoke. A bit of a failure, really.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

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1 minute ago, Michael Edge said:

I'm afraid it's a bit more difficult than that, the insulated brush holder is screwed into a plastic bush, the other one directly into the brass frame. It used to be possible to buy spare insulated brush sets, I've used these in the distant past. You could cannibalise a dead one to get another insulated brush assembly but you would also need to drill out the brass frame to take it.

Thanks Mike,

 

I still have a few D11/D13-powered locos, some equipped with DJH gearboxes (which give greater control).

 

Though perhaps a little fast for model railway locos (though better in big, express engines), I find them extremely powerful and reliable.

 

Of course, and very happily, I don't have the restrictions imposed by DCC.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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13 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Thanks Chas,

 

The process of taking panning shots is very hit and miss. I set the D3 on 'burst mode', with the ASA at about 300, the aperture wide open, giving a shutter speed of about a 50th of a second, and set the locos' speeds accordingly. About one in 20 attempts is 'passable' (thank goodness I don't use film any more)...................

 

Some examples................

 

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This is very typical. A nice sense of speed and nicely-blurred motion, but the loco itself is too blurred.

 

2119100289_panning60504.jpg.198775d241ec7b2eb900e6ed153176d7.jpg

 

The loco itself is sharper, but the motion isn't quite as effective.

 

299158429_panning60120.jpg.dc43963fb0e17d52331eae1825c72b38.jpg

 

Success! 

 

323667091_testrunningV201.jpg.15c040fda75a737ff13b5a11ddec1e37.jpg

 

The motion isn't blurred enough here.

 

695940498_18DJH9Fpanning.jpg.7ad9dfa94a22b97404ab5290f7cc930c.jpg

 

Smaller-wheeled locos have to be driven faster to get the blurred motion look (in this case, not quite fast enough. 

 

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And, I have tried fake smoke. A bit of a failure, really.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

Good Morning Tony,

I hope you and Mo are well? 

Should the chassis from the V2 become surplus to requirements, (if you replace with a Comet version) I would gladly make an offer to take off your hands.

I have a half decent looking NuCast body that would go over that nicely.

I hope it will be a safe to see you soon.

 

 

Kind Regards,

Lee

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30 minutes ago, lee74clarke said:

Good Morning Tony,

I hope you and Mo are well? 

Should the chassis from the V2 become surplus to requirements, (if you replace with a Comet version) I would gladly make an offer to take off your hands.

I have a half decent looking NuCast body that would go over that nicely.

I hope it will be a safe to see you soon.

 

 

Kind Regards,

Lee

We're very well, thank you Lee,

 

Speaking with your dad yesterday (we walked to Careby Church and back (gasp!)) he and your mum are well, too, as I hope you and your family are.

 

As soon as I make a new chassis for the V2, I'll let you know.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony. 

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2 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

We're very well, thank you Lee,

 

Speaking with your dad yesterday (we walked to Careby Church and back (gasp!)) he and your mum are well, too, as I hope you and your family are.

 

As soon as I make a new chassis for the V2, I'll let you know.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony. 

We're all very well thanks Tony, although if March 8th hadn't been announced for school return, I suspect Claire may have gone mad!

 

A walk to Careby eh? I am assuming you had my great grandparents house pointed out to you, and the tale about the German bomber jettisoning its bombs nearby and the ceiling falling in?

I will be most disappointed if not, it's a 'standard' Careby story, no matter how many times I've heard it!"

 

Thanks for the V2, most appreciated.

 

Kind Regards,

Lee

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On 24/02/2021 at 14:47, Tony Wright said:

Lovely stuff Eric,

 

Even down to the joggle in the ejector pipe and the drain at its cab end.. 

 

Have you changed the bogie wheels (they look finer than Hornby's)? That said, the latest Hornby ones are far superior than those supplied before.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

Good morning Tony,


I have a query that I'm sure you will be able to help with. it concerns the recent Hornby model of Cock o the North. Is the tender correct for the loco as produced, with the high streamlined fairing above the front tender bulkhead? 


Unless you know better, I'm not sure that this is right for either Cock o' the North or Earl Marischal, at least as depicted by Hornby and certainly not with the late crest as on Eric's improved wiggly pipe example. I would appreciate your opinion, as I can't find a photo that shows this tall fairing in the condition as modelled by Hornby. 
 

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2 hours ago, lee74clarke said:

We're all very well thanks Tony, although if March 8th hadn't been announced for school return, I suspect Claire may have gone mad!

 

A walk to Careby eh? I am assuming you had my great grandparents house pointed out to you, and the tale about the German bomber jettisoning its bombs nearby and the ceiling falling in?

I will be most disappointed if not, it's a 'standard' Careby story, no matter how many times I've heard it!"

 

Thanks for the V2, most appreciated.

 

Kind Regards,

Lee

Thanks Lee,

 

I haven't heard the story; it sounds rather frightening!

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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20 minutes ago, Headstock said:

 

Good morning Tony,


I have a query that I'm sure you will be able to help with. it concerns the recent Hornby model of Cock o the North. Is the tender correct for the loco as produced, with the high streamlined fairing above the front tender bulkhead? 


Unless you know better, I'm not sure that this is right for either Cock o' the North or Earl Marischal, at least as depicted by Hornby and certainly not with the late crest as on Eric's improved wiggly pipe example. I would appreciate your opinion, as I can't find a photo that shows this tall fairing in the condition as modelled by Hornby. 
 

Good afternoon Andrew,

 

I think the fairing is probably too tall. It's certainly right for the locos in streamlined form as P2s, though it probably should be lower as A2/2s.

 

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Though difficult to be absolutely sure, I think the tender front is lower....................

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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Hornby's latest catering car has just arrived for photography........................

 

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A very accurate car, though I feel the finish is a little dull. 

 

I think it represents the same diagram as the old Mainline model.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Hornby's latest catering car has just arrived for photography........................

 

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A very accurate car, though I feel the finish is a little dull. 

 

I think it represents the same diagram as the old Mainline model.

 

 

The colour is indeed very flat - doesnt match other Hornby Mk1's or Bachmann. From comparison with photo's of the real thing and comparison to other models I also think the lettering is a little heavy and maybe slightly too large.

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31 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Good afternoon Andrew,

 

I think the fairing is probably too tall. It's certainly right for the locos in streamlined form as P2s, though it probably should be lower as A2/2s.

 

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Though difficult to be absolutely sure, I think the tender front is lower....................

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

Thanks Tony,

 

from what I can tell from a cursory examination of photographs, the tall streamlined fairing was retained on rebuilding but cut down after the locomotive was repainting from plain black into LNER green. Once repainted into BR green, the tall fairing was gone, even when still fitted with the original P2 boiler. Perhaps Hornby have tried to save a bit of dosh by reusing the tender from their P2 model? Not having seen either as a model, I wouldn't know if the tender is the same tooling. That would make Thane of Fife the more accurate of the two models.

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1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

Though difficult to be absolutely sure, I think the tender front is lower....................

 

 

There's a rear three-quarter photo that appears with the Hornby model listing on some suppliers' sites, such as this one and shows the tender front.

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47 minutes ago, Flying Pig said:

 

There's a rear three-quarter photo that appears with the Hornby model listing on some suppliers' sites, such as this one and shows the tender front.

 

Good afternoon Simon. The streamlined fairing is clearly cut down in that photo, but it's a late period photo, Hornby have modelled 60501 early. However, I can find no evidence that the high fairing was carried by 60501 or 60502 in BR green, either with the P2 or Pep boiler.

 

Checking with the green book, fairings were cut down on 2001/3-6 in 1948, Apparently 2002 had a different front plate style to 2001, though they shared the same tender type. As a result, it didn't require cutting down. This is interesting, as some photographs seem to show no fairing at all on this locomotive! I think Hornby have it wrong for both 60501 and the up coming 60502. The cut down fairing is correctly modelled on 60505

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3 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Hornby's latest catering car has just arrived for photography........................

 

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A very accurate car, though I feel the finish is a little dull. 

 

I think it represents the same diagram as the old Mainline model.

 

 

Interesting that they sent a maroon one. The blue/grey livery Hornby do is terrible.

 

Overall this is a good model for the price though. It is the same type as Mainline did and is by far the most versatile Mark 1 catering car, having been allocated to all regions and seen all over BR for many years. The type first appeared in 1960.

 

The roof ribs are a minor irritant but much less obvious than on older Bachmann Mark 1s.

 

What disappoints me is that Hornby have not done one in chocolate and cream livery, which some did carry. 

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3 hours ago, Headstock said:

The streamlined fairing is clearly cut down in that photo, but it's a late period photo, Hornby have modelled 60501 early.

 

I had noticed the photo was taken from the historical epoch known as "Late Crest", but unfortunately hadn't thought to compare that with the condition of the model.  It appears on several retailer's sites so presumably chosen by Hornby?

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1 hour ago, 31A said:

Talking of A2 stroke 2s and also weathering, I have weathered my 'Thane of Fife' and I think got rid of the strange shade of green.  In the process of doing so, I increasingly realised what a brilliantly designed model this is, sadly let down by the colour and in some cases, assembly defects.

 

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That's an astonishing transformation Steve,

 

It's so much more realistic.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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3 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

I sometimes wonder whether it's worth actually lining a BR black V2, given that many of them looked like this for most of the time. 

 

Still, I think the livery is quite attractive, even with weathering...................

 

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As demonstrated by this Crownline V2; all the work of John Houlden. 

 

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And another of John's V2s. This is running on Retford now, after I erected an EM chassis for it. V2.jpg.925e49b9960f269f4a2b39e3d037ad3c.jpg

 

I can't recall who brought this one (coincidentally numbered as the same one I've just done). It looks to be a Bachmann body on a Comet set of frames. 

 

Though I must have seen dozens of BR black V2s, this is how I remember them best......................

 

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Weather a model to represent this and it'll look wonderful. I've never picked up the courage.

 

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This is about as far as I've gone. All this is my work, built from a Nu-Cast kit on a scratch-built chassis. The painting/weathering is all sable-applied, with transfer lining. 

 

When I started building professionally, a top paint job was called for...........

 

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I built this Nu-Cast V2 for a friend (it's running on a Branchlines' chassis). Ian Rathbone painted it. 

 

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As he did on this Crownline V2 I built for myself. 

 

I wish I could paint to this standard, but it's best to know ones limitations. 

 

 

What loco isn't improved by LNWR livery? Crewe knew what they were doing.

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Of the LNER locos featured in this topic, the V2s are, in my humble WCML view, the best looking. They have a "balance" that the Pacifics don't share. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

What loco isn't improved by LNWR livery? Crewe knew what they were doing.

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Of the LNER locos featured in this topic, the V2s are, in my humble WCML view, the best looking. They have a "balance" that the Pacifics don't share. 

 

Beautiful Jol,

 

And I think that L&NWR lined black is a superb livery.

 

Just one thing. I take it it's more difficult to put P4 wheels on the track? I struggle with OO!

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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