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20 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

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Now that is wobbly!

 

Is that typical or just an unfortunate example I wonder?

 

Alan

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7 minutes ago, PupCam said:

 

Now that is wobbly!

 

Is that typical or just an unfortunate example I wonder?

 

Alan

ISTR a similar complaint about some of the Hornby K1s...

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5 minutes ago, MarkC said:

ISTR a similar complaint about some of the Hornby K1s...

I don't know, Mark..........

 

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Yes, there is a wobble in the footplate on this one. 

 

All I did here was detail/renumber it and weather it. I should have made sure that the expansion link was the right way round, however.

 

It's since gone to a new home.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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I have two Hornby O1's , both footplates are dead straight. The one in the above picture might benefit from bending the bracket down a small amount?.   Some of the Hornby Q6 Locos had similar problems as well, I believe.

 

The same cannot be said for the god awful Hornby A3 Book Law with the Hermes Ski ramp front end. I had to "break/cut " the front end on that to cure the ski ramp.

That would explain why Hornby are doing the next A3 releases, with a metal footplate (see the latest The Engine Shed for info). Perhaps other Locos with similar footplates, will get the same treatment in due course as well. It will add traction weight as well !!.

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54 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

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The Hornby O1 can be converted to EM with relative ease as well. 

 

 

The EM version is as running on South Pelaw although it now has a front coupling and lamps.  Looks like we may need to have a look at the alignment at the board join there...

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

I don't know, Mark..........

 

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Yes, there is a wobble in the footplate on this one. 

 

All I did here was detail/renumber it and weather it. I should have made sure that the expansion link was the right way round, however.

 

It's since gone to a new home.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Hi Tony. Yes, there was one particular thread that highlighted this issue with the K1. I managed to pick one up, second hand, at a really good price, and was even more pleased to find that the running board was straight :) . I still prefer my NuCast one, but hey ho! Something to do with the "I built that" theme!

 

Regards,

Mark

 

 

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6 hours ago, 4069 said:

As is so often the case, the Hornby is the one with the right shape of smokebox door. On the right.

 

Good evening 4069,

 

not completely the case, the Hornby model has the smokebox type fitted to the minority of the class. The majority had the type as represented by Tony's other two models.

 

See link.

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8 hours ago, micklner said:

O1

 

On the right much finer detail, and thinner Tender sides.

 

4 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Would I ever try to trick you, Jesse?

 

The Hornby O1 is, of course, the one on the right.

 

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I set up this shot to show how things have improved down the decades. I scratch-built the one on the left (using a K's tender) in the mid-'70s. At the time, it was the only way of obtaining an O1, though I should have sourced a taller chimney. For its day, it was 'adequate', and I only keep it for sentimental reasons. I scratch-built an O4/8 at the same time. 

 

The middle one dates from the mid-'80s, and it's built from a Little Engines kit (not my work, apart from the weathering). These were a revelation at the time, enabling modellers to make LNER types never previously-available (with a few exceptions). Types like an O4/7 or an O4/8. 

 

The best one is the Hornby example. All I've done is to alter it to the unique example where there was no continuous handrail at the front, renumber it and weather it. 

 

I say best................

 

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But at least the other two have straight footplates! 

 

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The Hornby O1 can be converted to EM with relative ease as well. 

 

What I've pointed out in my presentation is how the need now to scratch-build or kit-build has diminished with each new item of RTR wonderment. Yes, the situation is far more egalitarian and even democratic, but there's always a nagging feeling at the back of my mind that something has been 'lost' as well. There's always been a sense of 'exclusivity' about scratch-built locos and kit-built locos, largely because not everyone can create them. That's not to say they're better (as the examples above show, certainly not in my case!), but they're personal in a unique way. And, weeks/months after a new model is released, it can be seen in multitudes on layouts at shows or in the press. Purchasing-power, if nothing else. 

 

Anyway, I've had mine down the decades.

 

Regards,

 

Tony.  

 

Evening Mick, Tony,

 

three different chimneys on each O1class loco. Even with modern tech, they still haven't got it right.

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6 hours ago, Woodcock29 said:

Last year I posted some photos of the Spirsby layout built by Gavin Thrum based on the Spilsby branch in Lincolnshire to which I contributed some items and on which we run some of my LNER stock. We assumed that Spilsby became more important and the line was signalled to allow more than one engine to be on the branch at the same time. Hence we named it Spirsby rather than Spilsby.

 

This last weekend should have been our annual BRMA Convention here in Adelaide. But due to Covid restrictions on travel across state borders here in Oz we've postponed it once again. We were intending to show Spirsby at the Convention venue but will now need to do that next year. As we had a free weekend locally I had a BRMA meeting at my place on Sat (split into two sessions to allow for Covid restrictions of a max of 20 people in a residence at one time) and as Spirsby is in storage at my place I set it up for a week. This will allow its use by two operating groups I'm in, one of which was last night. 

 

Consequently I took the opportunity for a bit of a photo shoot. Hope you like the shots.

 

Andrew

 

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What superlative modelling and wonderful photographs.

 

Thanks Andrew. 

 

I can't believe it's three years now since I was a guest speaker at your convention in Sydney. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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8 hours ago, Barry Ten said:

A bit more progress on the Hornby/Crownline Bulleid Pacific. I think I might have another

go at forming the bottom fold in the deflectors, if I can get them off cleanly. They do vary a lot from loco to loco (judging by photos) with some having quite a shallow angle at the bottom and some more pronounced.

 

I won't fit front steps and cylinder pipes until I've finished handling the model a lot.

 

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Great stuff Al,

 

Are you going to bring it with you on Thursday? 

 

Please bring whatever else you like as well.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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3 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Great stuff Al,

 

Are you going to bring it with you on Thursday? 

 

Please bring whatever else you like as well.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

I'll certainly bring it Tony, and a few other items built since my last visit. Let's hope none of them end up on the naughty step.

 

Al

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10 hours ago, Woodcock29 said:

Last year I posted some photos of the Spirsby layout built by Gavin Thrum based on the Spilsby branch in Lincolnshire to which I contributed some items and on which we run some of my LNER stock. We assumed that Spilsby became more important and the line was signalled to allow more than one engine to be on the branch at the same time. Hence we named it Spirsby rather than Spilsby.

 

This last weekend should have been our annual BRMA Convention here in Adelaide. But due to Covid restrictions on travel across state borders here in Oz we've postponed it once again. We were intending to show Spirsby at the Convention venue but will now need to do that next year. As we had a free weekend locally I had a BRMA meeting at my place on Sat (split into two sessions to allow for Covid restrictions of a max of 20 people in a residence at one time) and as Spirsby is in storage at my place I set it up for a week. This will allow its use by two operating groups I'm in, one of which was last night. 

 

Consequently I took the opportunity for a bit of a photo shoot. Hope you like the shots.

 

Andrew

 

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Andrew I am sorry I missed the date.... Just as well we might be able to make it  next year! infact I think Victoria might have a general note at the borders still at the time of the convention that will read "last one out turn off the lights" With Victoria and Melbourne being the most locked down I bet we will all be wanting a change of scenery! Still intend to make it over for the convention and the photos of the layout look wonderful!... cant wait to see it in the flesh!  

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59 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Geoff Haynes has varnished the Hornby 'Duchess' now.

 

It's remarkable how it 'lifts' the green from as-supplied. 

 

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Much closer to Brunswick green in my perception.

The varnish coat has transformed the rather flat lack lustre livery Hornby apply. What a difference. 

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2 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Geoff Haynes has varnished the Hornby 'Duchess' now.

 

It's remarkable how it 'lifts' the green from as-supplied. 

 

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Much closer to Brunswick green in my perception.

Thats cheered it up no end. The sheen of the lining is now the same as the main body colour so it doesnt stand out whilst the green has gone a shade darker and has more depth. Interesting how well the black on the plastic cylinders and deflectors has responded too.  That etched nameplate looks a little large though - could you say who the manufacturer is? For Duchess names I have pretty much settled on Fox as the nearest to prototype followed by Modelmaster. 

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1 hour ago, MikeParkin65 said:

Thats cheered it up no end. The sheen of the lining is now the same as the main body colour so it doesnt stand out whilst the green has gone a shade darker and has more depth. Interesting how well the black on the plastic cylinders and deflectors has responded too.  That etched nameplate looks a little large though - could you say who the manufacturer is? For Duchess names I have pretty much settled on Fox as the nearest to prototype followed by Modelmaster. 

They're 247 Developments' plates, Mike.

 

And you're right, they do look a little large. 

 

That said, and to attempt to be fair, the Fox plates on this modified Hornby A4 are actually too small. 

 

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Compared with 247 Developments' ones. 

 

Difficult to tell in tight perspective..............

 

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But I think this shows what I mean.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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Tony,

 

Sorry to break the flow but a quick question that may have a long answer.

 

I am building a Pro-Scale V2 kit and I am very aware of all the pitfalls.....

 

My question relates to the tender. I intend to complete the kit as an early 1950s V2 in black MT livery, probably one of the 5/6 that helped the SR out in 1953 and I will not be remoing the front footsteps since initially they ran with them. The kit is supplied with a Group Standard 4,200 galleon tender but it is an early version of this with equal cut aways and a low front. Can this be modified to represent one of the later (and from a V2 point of view, more widespread) high fronted tender?

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

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37 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

They're 247 Developments' plates, Mike.

 

And you're right, they do look a little large. 

 

That said, and to attempt to be fair, the Fox plates on this modified Hornby A4 are actually too small. 

 

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Compared with 247 Developments' ones. 

 

Difficult to tell in tight perspective..............

 

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But I think this shows what I mean.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Agree - 247 plates look better for 60017. I use SilverTay for A4 plates but you are the LNER expert

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2 hours ago, 30368 said:

Tony,

 

Sorry to break the flow but a quick question that may have a long answer.

 

I am building a Pro-Scale V2 kit and I am very aware of all the pitfalls.....

 

My question relates to the tender. I intend to complete the kit as an early 1950s V2 in black MT livery, probably one of the 5/6 that helped the SR out in 1953 and I will not be remoing the front footsteps since initially they ran with them. The kit is supplied with a Group Standard 4,200 galleon tender but it is an early version of this with equal cut aways and a low front. Can this be modified to represent one of the later (and from a V2 point of view, more widespread) high fronted tender?

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

Richard,

 

Without checking, I don't know if any V2s with the original tenders ran on the SR in temporary replacement for the MNs. 

 

Altering the Pro-Scale tender to one of the more-numerous ones? Please PM me with your address and I'll send you a pair of etched overlays for the top coping (with the shorter cut-out) and an etched higher frontplate. You can make a donation to a charity of your choice in return, if that's all right?

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

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7 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Geoff Haynes has varnished the Hornby 'Duchess' now.

 

It's remarkable how it 'lifts' the green from as-supplied. 

 

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Much closer to Brunswick green in my perception.

 

As a matter of course, I apply at least one coat of Klear to all RTR locos.

 

This, IMHO, produces an ex-works appearance which is an ideal base for weathering - as per the prototype.

 

CJI.

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