RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2015 The premise was in by boat, out by rail - no lorries! But unless the good Cap'n can work miracles, too late now! Brian. Not too late, because no agreement on land has yet been given. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Not quite on topic I know, but I found this snippet of old film from 1901 on the BFI site which you might be interested in, or may be familiar with - http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-beautiful-panorama-of-railway-ride-from-st-german-to-milray-1901-1901/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSutt Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Not quite on topic I know, but I found this snippet of old film from 1901 on the BFI site which you might be interested in, or may be familiar with - http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-beautiful-panorama-of-railway-ride-from-st-german-to-milray-1901-1901/ Millbay not Milray?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Millbay not Milray?? Yes, and starting from St Germans. I wonder what has happened to the rest of the film as the piece linked only covers snippets from the bridge to Keyham - but lots of very interesting content. Edited July 12, 2015 by The Stationmaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 The premise was in by boat, out by rail - no lorries! But unless the good Cap'n can work miracles, too late now!Brian. The info in the local media suggests much of it is destined for Plymouth and the south west, which would suggest otherwise. Where is this cement coming from, and where is its final destination? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Millbay not Milray?? Wouldn't you know - its N/A in the US! Would some kind reader copy it and send it on please; it would be much appreciated. Brian Another Old Sutt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandman Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Here is a useful link to a 1907 map of Cattewater and Turnchapel. http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=50.3659&lon=-4.1174&layers=171 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Thanks - a good map; enlarges nicely. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19, 2015 The info in the local media suggests much of it is destined for Plymouth and the south west, which would suggest otherwise. Where is this cement coming from, and where is its final destination? Judging by what can be seen on AIS it could well be Spain as Spanish registered cement ships are regulars off the UK coast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixchris Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 The cement silos are to be built (if planning goes through) on Howard Quay, not Victoria Wharfs (although Howard quay is owned by Victoria wharfs ltd!?!) - the rail connection is still there but from what the planning says it will be road served Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2015 All I can say generally is 'watch this space'. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Thanks to John, Tim and Co for sharing their images, a very interesting mix and a perfect compliment to the Cornwall Railway Society's field trip report. Lots of memories of 'Guz' in the 70s Stay Safe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) An article yesterday in the Plymouth Herald about "Ghost Trains" being seen on the branch. https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/history/gallery/abandoned-train-track-5566096?fbclid=IwAR0hmSJPlhz4x1b1CKhKEb0HC-xOb3QQYURR_5WoIcvWIQK_q1ps1Ho8Qio Is there still some activity with just part of it still in regular/irregular use? The article mentions that a train with approximately 20 "Oil carriages" (!) was seen near Tothill Park. Edited June 27, 2021 by highpeakman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2021 Most likely clearing the Wagons from down the depots as the lines are officially closed now from Laira I read elsewhere . They maybe from down where the Oil and Bitumen Depots were? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Surely there was nothing past the scrap yard where Cl.66s were the last to visit a while back? Also there is a video with a Bubble car or something which went as far as it could! All over now! As to fairs, both Anderton and Rowlands and Whiteleggs fairs used to come to Tothill Park years ago. See the trains from the dodgems Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, brianusa said: Surely there was nothing past the scrap yard where Cl.66s were the last to visit a while back? Also there is a video with a Bubble car or something which went as far as it could! All over now! As to fairs, both Anderton and Rowlands and Whiteleggs fairs used to come to Tothill Park years ago. See the trains from the dodgems Brian. Whiteleggs used to go up the back of Home Park too Brian. My late mum had some connection to the Whiteleggs; might have been Rosy the mother? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
125_driver Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 7 hours ago, highpeakman said: An article yesterday in the Plymouth Herald about "Ghost Trains" being seen on the branch. https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/history/gallery/abandoned-train-track-5566096?fbclid=IwAR0hmSJPlhz4x1b1CKhKEb0HC-xOb3QQYURR_5WoIcvWIQK_q1ps1Ho8Qio Is there still some activity with just part of it still in regular/irregular use? The article mentions that a train with approximately 20 "Oil carriages" (!) was seen near Tothill Park. Highly unlikely there were any tanks down there, certainly nothing stabled long term up there so sounds dubious to me. The only time road into Plymouth Friary has been used in past 10 years or so is on occasional driver training ECS moves, often with a sprinter unit or the 08 pilot. Was supposed to be a tour to Cattewater in 2013 however it got caped I believe, and since 2012 I don't think anything has reached Laira Bridge on the Cattewater line. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted June 28, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) I have a suggestion from a ex-railwayman whose knowledge of the area I respect that it could have been a weedkilling train. " Probably a planned thing, 'just in case' pigs fly and someone decides to run freight down there again!" Seems logical to me! Edited June 28, 2021 by Re6/6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 Yesterday I had a wasted trip to the sorting office at Billacombe and I had a look at the track as I crossed Laira bridge, there was no sign that any trains had run on that section of line in ages. I was stopped at the lights which gave me time to have a good look at the line to the scrap metal yard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Siberian Snooper said: Yesterday I had a wasted trip to the sorting office at Billacombe and I had a look at the track as I crossed Laira bridge, there was no sign that any trains had run on that section of line in ages. I was stopped at the lights which gave me time to have a good look at the line to the scrap metal yard. I don't know the area at all so this probably has little value but the report seemed to suggest the "train", if indeed there was ever a train, was seen near Tothill park. Looking at Google maps it seems that a train could have got to that point perhaps without going down to Laira Bridge (which would have required a reversal). I have no idea though why it would do so and, I repeat, if it really did so. Could that be the case possibly? As I said, I don't know the location at all but this just piqued my curiosity. Local "Paper" reporting these days is, unfortunately, notoriously bad everywhere in the country and seems to be reported from offices situated a long way away using little local knowledge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, highpeakman said: I don't know the area at all so this probably has little value but the report seemed to suggest the "train", if indeed there was ever a train, was seen near Tothill park. Looking at Google maps it seems that a train could have got to that point perhaps without going down to Laira Bridge (which would have required a reversal). I have no idea though why it would do so and, I repeat, if it really did so. Could that be the case possibly? As I said, I don't know the location at all but this just piqued my curiosity. Local "Paper" reporting these days is, unfortunately, notoriously bad everywhere in the country and seems to be reported from offices situated a long way away using little local knowledge. Except the Herald really is a local paper for 'local people'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: Except the Herald really is a local paper for 'local people'. . Ah, the Herald. Brings back memories. Mostly of having to go back out in the pouring rain and howling wind in the dark as soon as I got back from school to do the paper round (a significant chunk of the money from it going to batteries for the bike lights), and the person at the end of the paper round complaining about the paper being a bit damp. Hilly, too, at least it kept me fit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, Reorte said: . Ah, the Herald. Brings back memories. Mostly of having to go back out in the pouring rain and howling wind in the dark as soon as I got back from school to do the paper round (a significant chunk of the money from it going to batteries for the bike lights), and the person at the end of the paper round complaining about the paper being a bit damp. Hilly, too, at least it kept me fit. Ah, the hills. I used to do Post at Christmas, and Milk Rounds one Summer, mostly out Laira way. I had forgotten how hilly loads of Plymouth is/was. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: Ah, the hills. I used to do Post at Christmas, and Milk Rounds one Summer, mostly out Laira way. I had forgotten how hilly loads of Plymouth is/was. This was a bit further out, edge of Dartmoor. I lived in Yelverton at the time. Plymouth's definitely quite a hilly place all around though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 7 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: Except the Herald really is a local paper for 'local people'. Really, you could have fooled me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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