RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted June 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2021 14 hours ago, rab said: Really, you could have fooled me. 22 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: Except the Herald really is a local paper for 'local people'. The web page has the same "Live" banner at the top of the page as many other "local" newspaper websites including ours in the East Midlands. In this case it says Plymouth Live. Ours has a local Live banner but often includes news items from out of area. Genuinely local newspapers just can't compete these days I am sorry to say. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, highpeakman said: Genuinely local newspapers just can't compete these days I am sorry to say. Compete with what? I occasionally watch Devon Live on tv if I'm at Sherry's flat. The adjective 'dire' doesn't come close. They don't even fulfil the basic 'hunk and hooters' presenters concept very well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, Oldddudders said: Compete with what? I occasionally watch Devon Live on tv if I'm at Sherry's flat. The adjective 'dire' doesn't come close. They don't even fulfil the basic 'hunk and hooters' presenters concept very well. Bring back that rabbit thingy. Gus Honeybun I think it was! Now that was a great bit of TV. Ar$£ 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2021 15 hours ago, rab said: Really, you could have fooled me. Well, when I read it a few weeks ago in 1966 it were great. Couple of pages about sport and all. Speedway included. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted June 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2021 23 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: Except the Herald really is a local paper for 'local people'. Best used for local people to eat their local fish and chips out of, or possibly for other local people (or even the same local people) to cut up with their local scissors and hang up in their local privies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted June 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Sorry, duplicate local post. Edited June 30, 2021 by Captain Kernow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2021 20 hours ago, Reorte said: This was a bit further out, edge of Dartmoor. I lived in Yelverton at the time. Plymouth's definitely quite a hilly place all around though. Bloody hell, Yelverton was a far away village back in my time, reached by NO 83 Western National Double Decker. Moorland Links Hotel Stables I 'worked' in as a Lad in 1963; almost all the others, bar the owner, were girls of a certain age!!!!!!! Ummmm. Meanwhile steam was disappearing rapidly and I missed it. Derrrr. P 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted June 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Oldddudders said: Compete with what? Social media - I suppose I should now go and wash my hands after typing that! Perhaps it should really be called unsocial media? Like so many things it can be very useful and helpful but, often, so much content ends up as illiterate, bad mouthed ranting. Like littering, we don't seem to be able to get people to stop contributing nastiness. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted June 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Mallard60022 said: Bloody hell, Yelverton was a far away village back in my time, reached by NO 83 Western National Double Decker. Moorland Links Hotel Stables I 'worked' in as a Lad in 1963; almost all the others, bar the owner, were girls of a certain age!!!!!!! Ummmm. Meanwhile steam was disappearing rapidly and I missed it. Derrrr. Well I was later because steam was gone by the time I was born, let alone when I lived there (so the railway to Yelverton had long since disappeared, let alone steam) but the no. 83 Western National bus, that was the one home from school in Plymouth! I'd completely forgotten about that until you mentioned it. I quite often fell asleep on it but must've subconsciously known where I was because I never missed the stop. All of that was 25 years ago now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 On 29/06/2021 at 10:08, highpeakman said: Local "Paper" reporting these days is, unfortunately, notoriously bad everywhere in the country and seems to be reported from offices situated a long way away using little local knowledge. Sadly true, but we reap what we sow. Since so many of us stopped buying local newspapers and they have had to drastically consolidate, regroup and restructure to survive at all. Instead, most of us now get our news from the likes of BBC, MSN, Google, FaecesBurg, Twatter, etc. Which is, err, reported from offices situated even further away away using even less local knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted June 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: Sadly true, but we reap what we sow. Since so many of us stopped buying local newspapers and they have had to drastically consolidate, regroup and restructure to survive at all. Instead, most of us now get our news from the likes of BBC, MSN, Google, FaecesBurg, Twatter, etc. Which is, err, reported from offices situated even further away away using even less local knowledge. Before the Internet became main stream (and even longer before the rise of anti-social media) our local rag had the unofficial strap line of "Never knowingly right". Hardly surprising that once it had rivals (irrespective of their quality) it went from being daily to weekly. Adrian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 On 27/06/2021 at 13:31, 125_driver said: Highly unlikely there were any tanks down there, certainly nothing stabled long term up there so sounds dubious to me. The only time road into Plymouth Friary has been used in past 10 years or so is on occasional driver training ECS moves, often with a sprinter unit or the 08 pilot. Was supposed to be a tour to Cattewater in 2013 however it got caped I believe, and since 2012 I don't think anything has reached Laira Bridge on the Cattewater line. Geoff Endecott's video around that time. Brian. This article has been getting on for nearly ten years now. An obscure little branch line in an industrial area of Plymouth known only to those who know the area or those who enjoy such lines. Plymouth is fortunate to have such history in its railways, but surely its drawing to a close, as is this topic. (What am I saying?)! Brian. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 hours ago, brianusa said: This article has been getting on for nearly ten years now. An obscure little branch line in an industrial area of Plymouth known only to those who know the area or those who enjoy such lines. Plymouth is fortunate to have such history in its railways, but surely its drawing to a close, as is this topic. (What am I saying?)! Brian. Well, I've enjoyed it. In fact I've enjoyed it so much, here's something I prepared earlier today. Wharfs, docks, piers, oil storage depots, goods stations, quarries, tunnels, industrial warehousing, scrap yards ... the list goes on. And not a single passenger train in sight! @brianusa - If it is time to start another Plymouth Branch Line topic, how about Sutton Harbour? 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 8 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: Well, I've enjoyed it. In fact I've enjoyed it so much, here's something I prepared earlier today. Wharfs, docks, piers, oil storage depots, goods stations, quarries, tunnels, industrial warehousing, scrap yards ... the list goes on. And not a single passenger train in sight! @brianusa - If it is time to start another Plymouth Branch Line topic, how about Sutton Harbour? Surely some modelling potential in that lot! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted July 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2021 58 minutes ago, 62613 said: Surely some modelling potential in that lot! If you had an area of about 16m x 8m you could do it to scale in OO. It would become far more realistic in n gauge but for the steam era some of the locos would be hard to find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) I wasn't thinking the whole thing. The bit around Corporation Quay looks inviting, though! A pity there isn't a scale with the plan. I imagine there wasn't that much passenger traffic, it would almost be freight only. What loco types? Edited July 1, 2021 by 62613 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted July 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, 62613 said: I wasn't thinking the whole thing. The bit around Corporation Quay looks inviting, though! A pity there isn't a scale with the plan The Corporation Quay area would be about 1km long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I reckon we'd need about 28 feet for the Corporation Wharf section in full. That's including Laira Bridge as a "scenic break" on the right. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 3 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: I reckon we'd need about 28 feet for the Corporation Wharf section in full. That's including Laira Bridge as a "scenic break" on the right. I worked out that a kilometer in 4mm scale is a bit over 13m; slightly over 40 feet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Kris said: The Corporation Quay area would be about 1km long. 1 hour ago, 62613 said: I worked out that a kilometer in 4mm scale is a bit over 13m; slightly over 40 feet Hmm, both correct, in slightly different ways? Folks are welcome to check my measuring (for the area shown above) on the original map. https://maps.nls.uk/view/106006952 I reckon it's close to 2300 feet long or 0.70 Km. For OO/4mm scale, am I correct in calculating that would be 2300 x 4 = 9200 mm = 9.2 metres? 9.2 x 3.28 (feet per metre) = 30.1 feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2021 Whether 30 or 40 feet, hard to do in the average semi. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 30/06/2021 at 11:11, Mallard60022 said: Bring back that rabbit thingy. Gus Honeybun I think it was! Now that was a great bit of TV. Ar$£ I reckon they'd had a few rounds of Plymouth Gin before this episode.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 On 01/07/2021 at 00:28, KeithMacdonald said: Plymouth is fortunate to have such history in its railways, but surely its drawing to a close, as is this topic. (What am I saying?)! Just in case it does draw to a close, here's a "Plan B". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Have we mentioned this before? Quote A review of Network Rail Test Trains on disused freight lines in the Plymouth district in May 2012 featuring Class 37s 37604 and 37259 and Class 31 31465 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Hi Keith, enjoyed your little Utuber of the Cattedown branch, quite familiar although I hadn't seen the NR episodes before. The area was lucky to have kept so much for so long and I was fortunate to have seen it at its prime but now I think the days of the Cattedown branch are really numbered. There is no rationale for the remains any longer. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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