jcredfer Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Lovely fencing ... good to see your work back on the Thread ....... .............. BTW ...................................................................... ................................... you any good at 1:1 fencing as well? .... it's just that out at the back here .................. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted December 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Hope you're feeling better mate, It does beg the question whether Adrian and Andy P have been drinking out of the same glass, wink, wink! Or, just maybe, the germ is being carried round the country on 4mm scale trains! P.S. Hope you feel better soon Edited December 9, 2014 by Ray H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted December 9, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2014 A couple of old postcards, showing the view from the gates up to Brasted Station. I belive that there is one in colour of the picture on the right, but it is of the same poor quality. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweven Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I'm pretty sure that the one on the right .... :-) Nice work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted December 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2014 You had me for a minute there... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2014 It just shows how well you've captured the scene mate, brilliant! Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronstrutt Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I was just about to say that I've never seen a photograph of an engine in the yard at Brasted but that, of course, is because it was dark most of the year when the freight ran. Incidentally, the last day photographs shown some wagons in the yard at Brasted. There must have been a trip after the official 'last day' to collect them but I've never seen it mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 spot on..... hope you are finally feeling more your self. Take it easy.......LOL loads of us need that motto tattooed on our foreheads..... You have been in the magazine, we all love your work, relax.....love your humour as usual...... hope you are both looking forward to a good Xmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted December 10, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2014 I was just about to say that I've never seen a photograph of an engine in the yard at Brasted but that, of course, is because it was dark most of the year when the freight ran. Incidentally, the last day photographs shown some wagons in the yard at Brasted. There must have been a trip after the official 'last day' to collect them but I've never seen it mentioned. Hi Ron, you will probably know, but I am sure that I have read somewhere that some of the carriages from the Riverhead rail crash were stored at Brasted for a while. I also wonder if the wagons you mention, were just left at Brasted. All the best Adrian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Cor !.............You must have been right ill Adrian, I can't see any fencing at all, unless, I have been struck down with the same illness, you had. Nice one A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted December 10, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2014 I found the missing postcard, it was behind the bread bin. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted December 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2014 I wish my handwriting was that neat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nest Posted December 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2014 Love it Adrian! (both the postcard and the fencing...even though I hadn't noticed it's absence before...) Nestor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted December 12, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2014 Have I just missed the train, or is it just arriving, I will soon find out. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold simonmcp Posted December 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2014 Love those railings and gates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nest Posted December 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2014 The slightly rough look of that photo somehow adds a whole other layer. Brilliant. Nestor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Hi Adrian thanks for some nice pics again, love the fencing and gates mate, just brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I wish my handwriting was that neat! I wish my photography, was that good........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You used to have a couple of sweatpants for photographs....but now everything seems to be a sweet point....so cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted December 13, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2014 Whilst idling my time away in the warm,and on the internet trying to find out how sleeper built platforms were constructed (for Chevening Halt). I found this site with some proper draughtsmans drawings on it, not a cad drawing insight, that shows detailed construction drawings of some lineside structures that could be adapted for many regions. primarily they are for MS&LRy.'s/Great Central. I have posted this link elsewhere on RMweb. The drawings enlarge just by clicking on them. Long live pen and ink drawings and draughtsmens skills of old. http://www.swithland-signal-works.co.uk/plans/plans.htm 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Whilst idling my time away in the warm,and on the internet trying to find out how sleeper built platforms were constructed (for Chevening Halt). http://www.swithland-signal-works.co.uk/plans/plans.htm Chevning Halt was made in precast concrete.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted December 13, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2014 Chevning Halt was made in precast concrete.. Hi Bigherb, that's true and thanks for pointing it out, but I wanted to model the one prior to the horrible rebuilt, when they changed the road bridge after the war and the platform. I am not sure if the platform shelter was the same one though, or did they redo that as well. All the best Adrian. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Only got intimate with it after the line closed, used to chain the bikes up out of sight under the platform around the concrete supports when we went off exploring the trackbed. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 13, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2014 That's a brilliant collection of engineers drawings, really useful, thanks Adrian. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronstrutt Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Hi Bigherb, that's true and thanks for pointing it out, but I wanted to model the one prior to the horrible rebuilt, when they changed the road bridge after the war and the platform. I am not sure if the platform shelter was the same one though, or did they redo that as well. All the best Adrian. Gould's book is not too helpful on when or why Chevening was rebuilt and whether they were both done at the same time, though he does mention that a bomb fell on the line 150 yards on the Dunton Green side of the halt so maybe that did some structural damage to the bridge. The other thought is that there were problems with the drainage in the cutting - the old gault clay again. In your first picture you can see signs of problems with drainage channels in the far cutting side and in the second the substantial drains that were put in, presumably as part of the reconstruction. It may be that the old platform had to be removed to allow new drains to be put into the southern cutting side. Incidentally, in the second picture there's a leaning post in the cutting side which may indicate slipping problems.* Gould reckons the 1950s for the reconstruction but by 1952 at the latest. I would put that back a tad. In 1951, when the line was being considered as a possible candidate for closure, the chief civil engineer was asked to defer track renewals and other items of heavy expenditure on the line. I wonder whether the cost of the Chevening work was the reason for the issue of this edict so I would guess 1950-51. Given the post-war shortages of materials I can't see it being done unless it was really vital work.I need to look that up in the early BR records at the National Archives. So, that means you're plumping for a 1940s era for your model, Adrian. You're going to need to fettle up your skills at building locomotives and rolling stock then. That'll be an R1 and the ex-SECR railmotor set, neither of which are, TTBOMK, available as kits, let alone RTR. A wartime scene would require you to paint white stripes on the platform canopy supports to stop people walking into them in the blackout and, of course, all the model people would have to be carrying gas masks, there would have to be lots of service vehicles and service people around (especially RAF) and the advertising hoardings would have to carry government posters rather than exhorting the locals to buy things. *By 1956 there was another serious slip in the Chevening area Edited December 14, 2014 by ronstrutt 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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