StuartM Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 In the meantime I've started adding some detail around the yard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoupler942 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Take care not to damage couplings by accidental hard shunting against the buffers! (been there.................) Do the inner wing rails reach as far forward as wheel treads? In some prototype sidings the track inclined towards the ends so the driver could judge by watching for roofs rising that the end was nigh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Oddly enough they do incline ever so slightly, but I take your point about damaging auto couplers. I think I'm going to run with Ben's idea of a fence (at least for now) plus a small brick hut or something similar. Prototype panel offered up and photographed to see what the camera thinks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted February 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hi Stuart, That fencing panel looks excellent! Great watching this develop! cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 Fence it is then. Although I think I might replace the wooden shed with a brick building instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Playing around with buildings to see what works and what doesn't work, so far a covered structure to protect materials from the elements and a yard office. I'm also toying around with another structure further up the yard with a cardboard mock-up. All ideas and comments welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted March 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2014 Hi Stuart, By the 70s there seemed to be less emphasis on providing covered goods facilities. The two two smaller buildings look really nice, and quite plausible. The larger one is harder to judge as it's a mock up and we can only see a corner, but it seems to me that there is a possibility that it would overpower the other two in terms of composition. However, in the wider scene it may look just right! Is it based on a prototype? I don't recall seeing many covered sheds like that in the 70s, but happy to be proved wrong! cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Hi Stuart, By the 70s there seemed to be less emphasis on providing covered goods facilities. The two two smaller buildings look really nice, and quite plausible. The larger one is harder to judge as it's a mock up and we can only see a corner, but it seems to me that there is a possibility that it would overpower the other two in terms of composition. However, in the wider scene it may look just right! Is it based on a prototype? I don't recall seeing many covered sheds like that in the 70s, but happy to be proved wrong! cheers Ben A. The two two smaller buildings look really nice, and quite plausible- is good enough for me. The mock up was a slightly larger version of the covered goods shed and I was just playing around with photographic composition, but in reality I can't think of a plausible reason for such a structure to be in that location. I'm now thinking overhead gantry crane spanning the two inner tracks and the road. Rgds, Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 I've decided an overhead gantry crane would look quite good, so the obligatory mockup has been created and photos taken to see how it would blend into the scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2014 Hi Stuart, For me the gantry crane works far better than the covered shed. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2014 I agree, the Gantry looks good. But are/were they more commonly seen in pairs? (They would need to be to load/unload those long girders on that bogie flat.) Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2014 Also, does/would the Gantry crane need to straddle all three sidings? The longer the top beam of the crane then the less maximum weight the crane can lift. Also, you would not be able to lift any loads over any roads already occupied by wagons. Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2014 Hi Stuart, Is the crane at Wolverhampton a little too large? http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/wolverhamptonsteel/he8e5f86#he8e5f86 Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 Ben, Thanks for the link, yes I think it might be a tad on the large side, although I might go way and play with the idea. Kev, I hear what your saying Originally I placed the gantry so it was only covering the two tracks either side of the road as this made sense to me in that, items could be loaded onto flats or into wagons from two locations, but when I placed the gantry across the three roads it just looked better. With regard to two gantry's (see Ben's link) I think that is case if the gantry is required to move up and down a section of a yard or if extremely large weight is involved. The width of my gantry spanning three roads would be no more than 24' or 12m which a suitably sized length of RSJ could span and still support a decent weight, bearing in mind that as a S&T depot, the heaviest item likely to be lifted is a drum of cable. More ideas, comments and suggestions are welcome Rgds, Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2014 ...just looked better. Covers most things 9 times out 10. Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoupler942 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I'd say abort the whole idea of a gantry as you will only be challenged to make it all work (as per Wenford Bridge) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 I'd say abort the whole idea of a gantry as you will only be challenged to make it all work (as per Wenford Bridge) Ha ha, yes your probably right, although that ain't going to happen any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 A 'light weight' gantry crane has been erected in the yard One of the shunters huts has been replaced with a disused parcels van And for some reason I bought a steam locomotive?????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Day off today, so started on some of the finer detail Adding a board-walk, A point lever and some grass clumps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Almost finished now, just some additional detail and a back scene to go, but the sun was out for a while today so, some more photos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 A couple of close ups Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 Liking my new steam loco, I did try and introduce some smoke with a joss stick, but to no avail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Its very nice. Can I suggest another experiment in scenics; I think the grass clumps (such as last photo above) appear too long. Try a very sharp pair of nail scissors to cut the grass down a little in height. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAustin Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Its very nice. Can I suggest another experiment in scenics; I think the grass clumps (such as last photo above) appear too long. Try a very sharp pair of nail scissors to cut the grass down a little in height. I would agree Photos from the age of steam rarely show grass between lines.Fire risk. It was only after steam had gone that people relaxed. Similarly grass inside the railway fence was kept short and trees/bushes etc removed. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 Thanks for the comments, I did try cutting the grass clumps down but they didn't look right As for the steam loco, I take your point, but the Jinty is just posing for the camera, normal 1970's diesel operation will resume shortly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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