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I've been able to spend some time on completing the footbridge today, as well as some other stuff.

 

Firstly, when I was building the first staircase, I forgot to show you how I added the steps.

 

So here they are:

 

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attached to one side first, and lined up.

 

This shows the vertical member which provides the support for the Capitals to attach to:

 

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I won't bother showing you all the latticing and so on, as you've seen it before.

 

Whilst the second staircase was drying, I tackled another essential detail:

 

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These are the supports which hold the sides of the main span.

 

As you can see they are quite intricate.

 

For the basic shape, I cut some lengths of 10thou x 60thou to twice the height of the side frames.

 

I curved them by running them between finger and thumb, and then glued them to the existing uprights:

 

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When they had stuck, I then bent them over and glued the end to the top of the upright, allowing about 4mm to be attached, and held each one until it had set:

 

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Once done, this is the result:

 

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I tried to add some thinner strip curled up to represent the internal detailing, but the first attempt wasn't a success:

 

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I'm going to have to think how I can do that better.

 

...

 

 

The second staircase was now dry, so I assembled the bridge to test how everything looks together.

 

Ladies and Gents, I give you...

 

Bakewell Footbridge (Mark2)

 

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And a view from the Down landing, looking across to the Up side:

 

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It seems an awful long time since Mark1 was in this state, but I hope you'll agree it was worth it!

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Al.

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I mentioned I'd been doing some other stuff today besides the footbridge.

 

Mainly, I've been fiddling with the road bridge, but I've also ballasted and fixed down the track through the station, which has needed doing for ages.

 

So here's a quick photographic blast through my day:

 

The road bridge had no road- just bare plywood, and it had no back wall or parapet on the side furthest from the station, so I quickly built one and here it is painted up, but not yet blackened with smoke, and no arch stones added yet:

 

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I made a road surface by painting a thick mix of Artists Acrylics - Burnt Umber and Black:

 

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Here is the back parapet added

 

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I then added a pavement on one side, and what will be a grass bank on the other, which mirrors the prototype:

 

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The road bends after the bridge, and the hillside starts to rise:

 

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I painted the banking in Burnt Umber, again quite thickly, so ti would take some scatter:

 

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and here's a view down the hill:

 

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I forgot to photograph the scatter, but you'll see it in a minute.

 

Just a photo to show the ballasting and track gluing - the station yard looks a bit full!

 

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Finally, here's three shots of the footbridge in place on the layout. I haven't put the platform surface back, as I'm working on it, so the bridge will sit higher than this when things are done:

 

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A bird's eye view showing the scatter on the road bridge. It needs lifting with some lighter, browner colours.

 

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The Down platform staircase appears to have developed a twist, I'll have to deal with that tomorrow. :nono:

 

That's all for tonight, thanks for looking:

 

Al.

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Looking good :) The fact that it's white and so intricate it feels like it wouldn't look out of place next to the Royal Pavilion in Brighton.

 

On the supports, how happy are you that they are the same shape? You could cut the teardrop shape out of thick card to form a jig that is the same size and shape as the outside of a curled bracing you've already created. If you make the point end of the teardrop open ended, you could feed the plastic strip into the jig until it curls around and comes back out again. Pushing the plastic against the teardrop to make sure it's snug, glue the two ends together, then when dry cut off the strip ends to the right length.

 

Once you've done this, you could use form the internal curls in very thin plastic strip or soldered wire. You'll know it won't distort the teardrop as it's braced against the card. If it comes to it, you could recreate all of the braces like this. Might be worth a try?

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I've been working on the Up platform surface today, and also the station master's house.

 

Here's a couple of shots.

 

I'm sure you'll all be fed up of seeing this footbridge soon :)

 

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The platform need the edging slabs and various other details adding, but it looks a lot better than the bare plywood!

 

Cheers,

 

Al.

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Al,

The bridge is looking good.  I am sure you are glad it is done though and can move on to other things, (well nearly done.)

 

I would be wary of the colours in that photo though.  I've seen coulours like that on photos before, ones of me or where I was and I do not remember it looking like that. Even if it was true, it is on a sunny day in the sunshine and that alters the colours anyway.

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Gorgeous. 

Regards the swirls have you considered cutting the white circles as already mentioned, then making a cut to form a big C then straightening a little?

Otherwise wire as also mentioned seems good.

I'm sure you'll have a eureka movement. You always seem to manage to sort it out.

As for the tunnel....multi tasking is just showing off................ :sungum: ..........Great work.

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Hi Al, the whole thing has gone together wonderfully, the balance is right and once the platform is finished it will be spot on.

 

As for the pics of the bridge and foot bridge, sorry to disagree with you but THE MORE THE MERRIER. :locomotive: :locomotive: :locomotive: :locomotive:

 

Andy :sungum:

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Some great work, Al. Where did that stationmaster's house come from?

 

Hi Jonathan, thank you.

 

The Stationmaster's house is a Skaledale "Main Station Building" R8628 which I've repainted. I saw it going second-hand on a well known auction site and though it would do very well.

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Looking good.

 

As for the curls, could you not use thick paper curled with a pair of scissors? In fact thinking about it could you not curl microstrip like that?

 

As for the colour would it still be in grouping colours underneath a thick coat of smoke? So could well be a stoney colour (I can't think what LMS colour for footbridges is at the minute!).

 

Andy G

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You could try curling phosur bronze pick up strip aroind a brush handle. Its very easy to shape and stays where its put within reason. Essentially metal microstrip!

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Thanks for your suggestions regarding the detailing for the footbridge stanchions. I have decided to use thin brass or bronze strip, as suggested by a few of you. I just need to find some, and get it ordered.

 

 

So, whilst I wait for that, and find a suitable paint, I thought I'd crack on with the "big build"!

 

Having been able to build the footbridge to my own satisfaction, despite the complexity of the task, I now feel much happier about tackling the main Station building.

 

This may strike you as slightly strange, but this building, more than any other, will be the centerpiece of the whole layout, and it is important to me that I get it right.

 

Here's a fairly poor photo of the prototype. I thought I'd got some better ones, but apparently not. I will pop up to the site over the weekend and get some better ones, if the weather is half decent.

 

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In the meantime, here are the plans:

 

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And here's the main outline of the building in 20thou plasticard.

 

The two central arches are more deeply recessed than the outer four, so that's why I've cut it like I have.

 

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I cut out the windows in the printed plan,

 

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and marked them through onto the plasticard:

 

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and then cut them out:

 

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Would you believe I had to come back and re-read my own thread to remember how I'd done the relief on the other station building! :)

 

So, I used the plan to set a pair of dividers, and then scribed the two middle arches onto a separate piece of plasticard:

 

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and marked the position of the central doors and windows:

 

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I will use this central section to mark and cut the other four arches.

 

Finally for tonight here is an overview of what I've done:

 

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More soon, thanks for looking.

 

Al.

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Al,

Looking good so far, and yes, I do believe that you had to read your own thread to find out how you did something as it is the sort of thing I do all the time.  Mind you I'm older than you.  Wasn't it you who was writing down colours so that you could go back and redo them again later, or am I mistaken?

 

Looks like it will be a cracker.  How are you going to do the windows?

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How are you going to do the windows?

 

Umm... very carefully... :D

 

I think I'll do them the same as I did with the other station building, building them up out of microstrip.

 

After the latticework, lots of little bits of microstrip no longer hold such a fear for me :)

 

Al.

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Al,

Looking good so far, and yes, I do believe that you had to read your own thread to find out how you did something as it is the sort of thing I do all the time.  Mind you I'm older than you.  Wasn't it you who was writing down colours so that you could go back and redo them again later, or am I mistaken?

 

Looks like it will be a cracker.  How are you going to do the windows?

 

Yep, with you there, did it twice these last two days.

 

"After the latticework, lots of little bits of microstrip no longer hold such a fear for me :)"

 

That has to be the understatement of the year!

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Morning Al,  Another fine job, theres no stopping you now, what l do when building from plans is to copy them on my computer, print them out and stick the drawings onto the plywood / plasticard and cut them out that way saves on re-drawing and marking them all out again, good luck with the build, whatching with interest..

 

GT 

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As I mentioned in my previous post, I went up to Bakewell Station today to take some photos of the prototype.

 

And here they are:

 

These are views of the car park side:

 

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and these of the platform side:

 

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and some closer detail:

 

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I have a big project on at work, so modelling is not likely until later next week.

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Al

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