RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 14, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2015 Hi Al, great to see you back mate, and doing some excellent work yet again. Well done. Cheers Andy, I'll take a proper look through Bitton later, but the fiddle yard looks great!. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted March 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2015 Hello stranger, good to see you back. Nice job on the farm diorama so far. Looking forward to seeing it come together. Squatch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Evening Al. Great to have you back. As usual superb modelling and can't wait to see the finished scene Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted March 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2015 Al, Hope all is well with you. Glad to see you have time to model again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 14, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2015 Sean, Duncan, Chris, Thanks very much, it's great to hear from you all again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 14, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2015 This evening then, I continued with the barn, moving on to painting the bits before assembly. Here's all the gritstone stonework, lintels, quoins and so on, for which I've used the usual colouring methods - a coat of Humbrol Matt Acrylic No.63 Sand, followed by a dilute wash of Humbrol Matt Acrylic No.91 Black Green. To attempt to match the look of the limestone, over the base coat of Matt White I did a dilute wash of Matt Sand, to warm it up a bit. Then I did a dilute wash of Humbrol Rail Colours Acrylic No.RC413 Engineers Grey, followed by a wash of Humbrol Matt Acrylic No.32 Dark Grey which i removed from the top surface by dabbing it with tissue. This left the darker colour in the joints between the stone, which is more prototypical than light mortar. I then dry fitted the Quoins and lintels to see if they looked ok: I then went round the building, attaching all the gritstone bits. I `added cap stones to the two gable ends, painted the same as the other gritstone. I think, having looked at the photos, that I may darken them down a bit. Here's where I've got to tonight: Farmer John's a bit quick off the mark, he's snuck a load of piglets into the barn before I've finished! He could at least have waited until I'd put the roof on! I'm going to try for a gritstone tile roof, but as yet I'm not sure what to use to get the right effect. Some experimentation tonight. Cheers, Al. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted March 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2015 Hey mister, good to see you back in the saddle, and the baler and trailer look great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted March 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2015 Looking good there Al. Will be interested to see how you capture the colour and shading of limestone as it features heavily in my future plans and is a lot more varied in colour than weathered sand and gritstone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 14, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Finally tonight, Here's what I've been doing regarding the roof. After some thought, I dug out a piece of Slater's 4mm Dressed Stone - normally used for walls, obviously, but I thought it had potential to make the rougher looking granite / gritstone slates which are a feature of older buildings round here. I cut it into strips, each 2 courses of stone high: and then began to stick them together, overlapping by one course each time. I used the scalpel to cut between each stone joint on the lower course: Eventually, I'd done one side of the roof: And here it is temporarily balanced in place: It needs sticking down properly, and painting and weathering, obviously, but I think it achieves the look I was going for. Thanks for looking, Al. Edited March 14, 2015 by acg_mr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Finally tonight, Here's what I've been doing regarding the roof. After some thought, I dug out a piece of Slater's 4mm Dressed Stone - normally used for walls, obviously, but I thought it had potential to make the rougher looking granite / gritstone slates which are a feature of older buildings round here. old-barn029.jpg I cut it into strips, each 2 courses of stone high: old-barn030.jpg and then began to stick them together, overlapping by one course each time. I used the scalpel to cut between each stone joint on the lower course: old-barn031.jpg Eventually, I'd done one side of the roof: old-barn032.jpg And here it is temporarily blanced in place: old-barn033.jpg old-barn034.jpg old-barn035.jpg It needs sticking down properly, and painting and weathering, obviously, but I think it achieves the look I was going for. Thanks for looking, Al. Here's one I photographed near the Hope Valley. Edited March 14, 2015 by Andrew P 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 14, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2015 That's great, thanks Andy, just the sort of thing I'm aiming at. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Al, Great to have you back and to have such an informative tutorial up and running again. You do have some marvellous ideas and I confess that I shall immediately be adding to the fairly copious number of notes I've made of your work over the months. Many thanks once again for the inspiration, Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 15, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2015 Looking good there Al. Will be interested to see how you capture the colour and shading of limestone as it features heavily in my future plans and is a lot more varied in colour than weathered sand and gritstone Cheers Jason. Yes, limestone is a challenge to capture convincingly. From my own observation round here, a limestone building can look completely different depending on the ambient light conditions, so in sunshine, overall it can look quite a warm sandy colour, and in cloudy conditions the same building will look almost slate blue. Particularly round here, the limestone in older buildings is very chirt heavy, and therefore is quite a dark grey in places, but with very white quartz veins running through some pieces. Al, Great to have you back and to have such an informative tutorial up and running again. You do have some marvellous ideas and I confess that I shall immediately be adding to the fairly copious number of notes I've made of your work over the months. Many thanks once again for the inspiration, Kind regards, Jock. Cheers Jock, I'm glad to be able to help. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Hi Al, Lovely to see you back modelling again, long may it continue! For me, you have captured the very essence of a Derbyshire stone building - it's just spot on and I love it. Cheers, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Hi Arnie......" I'll be back", you ain't lost your touch, then........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Afternoon Al Although we've spoken a couple of times it's great to see you back on RMweb and back to you're modelling. I have to say the baler is absolutely spot on. Looks just like my friends old MF 20 baler which was, until last year when he finally scrapped it, sat in a large bush of stinging nettles. It got to the point that you could hardly see it. I think I finished it off baling some Barley straw when the pick up reel collapsed due to metal fatigue. There was just a very loud bang and the tines all fell to the bottom apart from the one that went into the chamber and we later found embedded in one of the bales. I don't know if you used any pictures for reference, but the rust and colours are spot on. Also really like the barn. It certainly looks like the ones I've seen on my travels up to you're neck of the woods. Will look brilliant when you've got it planted with the old machinery outside it. Fantastic work and glad to have you back mate. All the best Marcus. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 15, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2015 Hi Marcus. Thanks, it's really nice to hear from everyone again. Great story about the old baler, and I've worked with quite a few in similar condition, which is where I got the idea from. I did work partly from photos, but also my own remembrances of the colours and where the things went rusty! I really hope that what I can see in my mind's eye can be translated into a model, it should look great if it comes off. Al. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 15, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2015 This evening, I've done a little more to the barn. I've made a start on the other side of the roof. sorry for the apalling photo, I think I sneezed whilst taking it I've also been adding a layer of stonework on the inside, and giving it a first coat of paint. This Matt White seems to be objecting to the Slater's styrene, or there's some residue on there, as it dried all patchy. The last shot shows the back wall of the barn, and this piece hasn't been stuck in yet, as I'm going to use this to experiment on to get the right limestone look, before venturing to paint the outside. As a start, I've added a wash of Grey as I did with the outside: Once this is dry, I will make a start on trying different things. I think probably the thing to do is to pick out individual stones in darker grey, and also white, to get a contrast across the wall, but I'm not exactly sure what it'll look like. I spent some time this morning taking some photos of different limestone structures around me, to give some clues to work from. Unfortunately, as I said before to Jason, there's a massive difference in how they look. Here's my house, which has a light grey mortar: and most of the stone is quite a light colour, so the whole thing is quite a uniform grey. My dad's garage is much darker looking mortar and stone: and this retaining wall is also very dark: The family farm, however, has an almost buff coloured mortar, and therefore looks much warmer, although the actual stone is still grey and white: Oh, and here's an old gritstone roof to get some colours from: Plenty of inspiration, there. Thanks for looking, Al. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Hi Al, great inspirational photos mate, love that colouring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Got to say Al, firstly, welcome back, but secondly, what a comeback! Superb modelling and absolutely cracking idea for the stone roof! Obviously you need a sheet or two of the slaters, but so much quicker than hand cutting individual tiles like what I would have done. Great looking result, and so quick too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Great to see you back Al. Top class modelling again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Delighted to see you back Al - you know you'll always be among friends on here And I'm bowled over by how you managed to make a convincing model of that barn before you got the prototype photo (ref Andy's Hope Valley pic). That's absolutely uncanny. Perhaps they saw your thread and quickly knocked it up overnight? Keep posting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2015 I continued with the barn this afternoon, by taking the interior wall I started last night, and trying different painting techniques. Here's a reminder of where I'd got too. I had given it a base coat of Matt White, and then a wash of Dark Grey: I really should learn, as I made exactly the same mistake with the station building, but I tried picking out odd stones with a dark grey - a colour that is evident in the photos I took. I continued, picking out more stones in light grey: However, at the scale we are talking about, it's all just too dark, it looks more like flint than limestone. I tried to overpaint the dark grey, but it wasn't a success. So, I took the plunge, and started on the outside walls. I completely avoided picking out stones in a dark colour, instead I used light grey, with a further wash of the Black Green over the top. I reckon this looks about right now. More in a minute. Al. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted March 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2015 Continuing the work on the roof, here's where we left it, with a base coat of Matt Sand: Despite what I've just written in the previous post, I could afford to use dark colours to pick out individual slates, this time, as the overall look I'm after is a lot darker. I then added two washes of the Black Green, allowing the first to dry before applying the second: For the ridge tiles I took a piece of 20thou plasticard, and folded it down the centre. Then, I took some microstrip, and began to add it across the strip of plasticard: Once all set, I painted it up in Dark Grey: This evening, I'll be putting it all together. Thanks for looking, Al. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrySVR Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Cracking modelling well done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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