Caley Jim Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 42 minutes ago, CF MRC said: It’s all down to accepted practice and tradition. I work at Guy’s & St Thomas’ Hospitals - I can easily understand the former but not the latter. It all gets a bit beyond my pay grade. I was always taught that where a name ended in an 's' the possessive was indicated by adding an apostrophe after it, with no following 's'. One of the few pieces of grammar I do remember! However, that article would seem to indicate that this was a short lived practice. Jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crosland Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 17 hours ago, Caley Jim said: I was always taught that where a name ended in an 's' the possessive was indicated by adding an apostrophe after it, with no following 's'. The way I was taught is that that rule applies if the s is a plural. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2mm Andy Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 03/11/2020 at 11:16, Caley Jim said: Because its a company and therefore not one individual. On the other hand, and to help Kevin's domestic situation, it could be 'Knight & Collier, Coal Factors'. Jim Judging by this thread I can foresee another private owner wagon making an appearance on Kevin's workbench; "Higgs, Simms & Watt, Grammatical Pedantry Specialists" Andy 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Exile Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 hours ago, 2mm Andy said: Judging by this thread I can foresee another private owner wagon making an appearance on Kevin's workbench; "Higgs, Simms & Watt, Grammatical Pedantry Specialists" Andy On a forum were we pride ourselves in accurate modelling ("9mm?? Certainly not! It's actually 9.42mm") I think we can all happily embrace the concept of pedantry 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Laurie2mil Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Quite right!! L Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, 2mm Andy said: Judging by this thread I can foresee another private owner wagon making an appearance on Kevin's workbench; "Higgs, Simms & Watt, Grammatical Pedantry Specialists" Andy Edited November 4, 2020 by Sithlord75 colour picture 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted November 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 03/11/2020 at 17:58, CF MRC said: It’s all down to accepted practice and tradition. I work at Guy’s & St Thomas’ Hospitals - I can easily understand the former but not the latter. It all gets a bit beyond my pay grade. This little article may help others to get to sleep at night. http://www.lurs.org.uk/documents/pdf 08/nov/The Underground and the Apostrophe.pdf Tim I happen to know where online one-to-one video tuition in English grammar can be obtained... ;-) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 14 hours ago, Sithlord75 said: Schoolteachers really do have too much time on their hands... Everyone knows pedantry has to be carried in a van, in an open truck it just blows away. Chris 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nick Mitchell Posted November 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) You need this to pull it (as long as you get the number of rivets correct): Edited November 5, 2020 by Nick Mitchell 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Square Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, Chris Higgs said: Schoolteachers really do have too much time on their hands... Everyone knows pedantry has to be carried in a van, in an open truck it just blows away. Chris Oh sheet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbrummitt Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Chris Higgs said: Schoolteachers really do have too much time on their hands... Everyone knows pedantry has to be carried in a van, in an open truck it just blows away. Chris Does it need to be one of those that are lined to prevent ignition and have special boots to avoid sparks? It should run with some barrier wagons too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Sithlord75 said: I'd much have preferred it in dark blue, or red oxide! (or is that being pedantic?) Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted November 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) There were just a few private owner wagons on the Isle of Wight. The cement works on the Medina had a fleet of open wagons to bring chalk from the quarry, but these would not be seen in Freshwater. The were also three tank wagons used to deliver paraffin. One of these is on my to-do list. I had a nice LBSCR wagon with rounded ends that would be well out of my period, that I found on Shapeways. I thought about what traffic might warrant a colourful private owner wagon. The line closed before the rocket test site opened nearby. What else is found in the area? A bit of fun and whimsy, and a bit of colour for the layout. Edited June 23, 2023 by Ian Morgan re-loaded image 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 For the pedants... As it happens, since I teach CAD this is all done in class and as examples of work for the students. It's a hard life.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, Sithlord75 said: As it happens, since I teach CAD this is all done in class and as examples of work for the students. It's a hard life.... Wasn't sure whether to click 'like' or 'friendly/supportive'! Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Ian Morgan said: A bit of fun and whimsy, and a bit of colour for the layout. Should it not have glass sides and the sand arranged to make a pretty seaside scene? Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted November 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) I feel I must make an apology for letting two hares run on this 2mm forum; grammar and toilet humour. I hope the mods are OK with this. Tim Edited November 6, 2020 by CF MRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted November 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Caley Jim said: Should it not have glass sides and the sand arranged to make a pretty seaside scene? I did look for the smallest glass tube of coloured sand that I could find, to make a tank wagon from, but they are all too big, or too expensive. Nowadays, they only harvest sand that has fallen from the cliff naturally for the souvenirs they sell from the shop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted November 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 hours ago, CF MRC said: I feel I must make an apology for letting two hares run on this 2mm forum; grammar and toilet humour. I hope the mods are OK with this. Tim I'm looking forward to the MRJ article... Simon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold snitchthebudgie Posted November 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, 65179 said: I'm looking forward to the MRJ article... And even more to the letters page in the following MRJ 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Spent some time today applying the Clifford Principle to my modelling. As a result, 23 LNWR Wagon bodies are now painted and waiting for me to build the chassis and put the decals on. I think I have sufficient decals for them all, but I know I don't have sufficient chassis. I'll do a stock take on chassis - what I have and what I need - then hit Shop 2. Thursday Knitting Club looks like having to go back to chassis building and there is always the ZAG next Saturday night (my time). top row - a pair of D21s which I drew and printed, a D33 and a D43a from the David Eveleigh etches. The opens are a mixture of Chris Higgs' (apostrophe alert!)D1, D2, D4/9 and D53 prints from Shapeways (the listing says D63 as well but since the D63 had curved ends and none of these do...) along with my version of the D2/D6. My reading of the LNWR Wagons books on the D4 and D9 is it seems to depend on the axle boxes ones fits (pedant alert 2! @DavidLong will tell me it matters, The Clifford Principle would say not!). All of them are in Humbrol 79 which the LNWR Society recommends as a good enough colour. Easier than mixing equal parts white and black which is what the LNWR would have done. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Sithlord75 said: Spent some time today applying the Clifford Principle to my modelling. As a result, 23 LNWR Wagon bodies are now painted and waiting for me to build the chassis and put the decals on. I think I have sufficient decals for them all, but I know I don't have sufficient chassis. I'll do a stock take on chassis - what I have and what I need - then hit Shop 2. Thursday Knitting Club looks like having to go back to chassis building and there is always the ZAG next Saturday night (my time). top row - a pair of D21s which I drew and printed, a D33 and a D43a from the David Eveleigh etches. The opens are a mixture of Chris Higgs' (apostrophe alert!)D1, D2, D4/9 and D53 prints from Shapeways (the listing says D63 as well but since the D63 had curved ends and none of these do...) along with my version of the D2/D6. My reading of the LNWR Wagons books on the D4 and D9 is it seems to depend on the axle boxes ones fits (pedant alert 2! @DavidLong will tell me it matters, The Clifford Principle would say not!). All of them are in Humbrol 79 which the LNWR Society recommends as a good enough colour. Easier than mixing equal parts white and black which is what the LNWR would have done. I wrote D63 on Shapeways but I think it is actually D64. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coal Tank Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I do like the cattle wagons John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Chris Higgs said: I wrote D63 on Shapeways but I think it is actually D64. Chris The D64 has curved ends too so it isn't that although minus the curve it is pretty close. I've been through the books from the LNWR society and to be honest I can't pick what they are. 4 plank, 16' long and 36" sides, no side doors and no diagonal strapping. Next guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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