richbrummitt Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 just need to tidy up in a few places find some way of replicating the finial There're a couple of small lathes here if you need to use one. Or I'll turn a finial for you if you provide the dimensions. It will be more awkward if it's one of those that is hollow with slits but I have one idea how they might be achieved. My real workbench will trump anyone elses for clutter. I think I might come close. At the moment I'm trying to get back to building many bogies for Masterclass toplight kits. They're really not worth a picture yet. I have spent all my spare time of late painting fitting skirting board and completely redecorating the hallway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) There're a couple of small lathes here if you need to use one. Or I'll turn a finial for you if you provide the dimensions. It will be more awkward if it's one of those that is hollow with slits but I have one idea how they might be achieved. Hi Rich, thanks for the offer, much appreciated! Unfortunately (or should that be typically?!) the finials at Ropley are all of the fancy hollow type like this: I've a couple of thoughts on how to make these, but I'm not sure how practical they are given the small size so very interested to hear your thoughts (or indeed anyone elses!) on the subject! Thanks again, Tom. Edited December 20, 2012 by TomE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbrummitt Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Hi Rich, thanks for the offer, much appreciated! Unfortunately (or should that be typically?!) the finials at Ropley are all of the fancy hollow type like this: Urgh yuck. I couldn't have anticipated such an awkward form. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yep, not pretty from a 2mm scale perspective are they! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) I have one in my garage if you need to take any measurements Tom, it's from Bracknell but they're more or less standard LSWR design I believe. Let me know and I'll dig it out. Pix Edited December 20, 2012 by Pixie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will J Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I reckon the finials would be printable,albeit in a slightly caricatured fashion.... If you can do lamp handles (admittedly before sneezing and breaking them off....) PS... the latest installment in the '813' saga is on the way! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2012 I have one in my garage if you need to take any measurements Tom, it's from Bracknell but they're more or less standard LSWR design I believe. Let me know and I'll dig it out. Pix The height from base to tip would be very handy if possible? Cheers Pix, 3D printing is a possibilty Will, but I have a plan A which i'll test out tomorrow. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Thin 2 thou." etch, two parts folded in L form, placed corner to corner? (I don't think there is enough material to make any kind of slotted fit). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbrummitt Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Thin 2 thou." etch, two parts folded in L form, placed corner to corner? (I don't think there is enough material to make any kind of slotted fit). That was the only thing that has come to my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nig H Posted December 21, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2012 Almost there with my Jinty chassis. Pics below show the chassis complete apart from balance weights (now done) and front DG, and painting (should be fun). I expected to find a short after I cut the wires connecting the brake hangers on each side of the chassis, but I was lucky - no shorts at all. Running and pickup seem good, might need a tweak but I am pleased with the result so far. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-missy- Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Fantastic Nigel! That looks like a very well built chassis. I noticed that the photos are titled Bill Bedford Chassis, I didnt realise he was selling 2mm stuff still or am I mistaken? The motor is an interesting choice too, how does it perform so far? Missy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nig H Posted December 21, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2012 Fantastic Nigel! That looks like a very well built chassis. I noticed that the photos are titled Bill Bedford Chassis, I didnt realise he was selling 2mm stuff still or am I mistaken? The motor is an interesting choice too, how does it perform so far? Missy Thanks Julia. I bought the etch many years ago - it hasn't been listed for ages. The frames started as a single fold-up unit but the spacing was only 5.5mm so I separated them and used my normal spacer method of pcb pads and my own etched spacers. You can see from the number of holes in them that I was unsure where the holes for the body fixing screws needed to go. The etch doesn't appear to have been designed specifically for 2mm and this created one or two problems as mentioned in my first post. Also the guard irons are soldered inside the frames, on top of or very close to the pcb pads, so I had to be careful I didn't get a short between the spacers and the frames. The Nigel Lawton motor is working out OK so far. The top speed, what with the 30:1 gearing is high, but you can use the contoller to deal with that. Slow running is good, and I think fine for actual operating conditions. It will be interesting to see how the loco performs with a decoder fitted. Nigel H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted December 21, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2012 Fantastic Nigel! That looks like a very well built chassis. I noticed that the photos are titled Bill Bedford Chassis, I didnt realise he was selling 2mm stuff still or am I mistaken? The motor is an interesting choice too, how does it perform so far? Missy Mr Bedford supplied me with a couple of very fine 2 Bil etches a couple of weeks ago afaik all his 2mm etches are still available to order Excellent modelling by everyone I had a feeling this thread had legs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hi Nigel. That 3F is looking fantastic, top job! I've had a go at making the finial for the top of the signal this evening. By putting a V shaped kink into 4 pieces of .31mm wire, then sanding them flat a little before soldering them together, we have a rough approximation of the real thing. The shape isn't 100%, and its perhaps a little on the large side, but its about as close as I think I'm going to get and doesn't look bad from a distance! Excuse the Blu-Tack blob, that's temporary!! Tom. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted December 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hi Nigel. That 3F is looking fantastic, top job! I've had a go at making the finial for the top of the signal this evening. By putting a V shaped kink into 4 pieces of .31mm wire, then sanding them flat a little before soldering them together, we have a rough approximation of the real thing. The shape isn't 100%, and its perhaps a little on the large side, but its about as close as I think I'm going to get and doesn't look bad from a distance! Tom. Brilliant Tom. I shall unashamedly steal that idea> Jerry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 We like that! Pix 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2012 Cheers! Next up is this one: Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etched Pixels Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Never install signals in quicksand 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 The Nigel Lawton motor is working out OK so far. The top speed, what with the 30:1 gearing is high, but you can use the contoller to deal with that. Slow running is good, and I think fine for actual operating conditions. It will be interesting to see how the loco performs with a decoder fitted. The small motor does have the lovely quality of fitting between the frames. But I remember from the thread on my etched chassis that someone observed the cheap and cheerful Lawton motors do not stand up very well to the end thrust imparted by a worm drive. So I will be interested to see if it lasts. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 22, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2012 An hour spent this morning with some brass strip and the soldering iron..... Now to do the same again for the other side! Tom. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-missy- Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Hello. I havent been upto much recently really. To be honest I have been through a bit of a modelling crisis of confidence where I have been struggling to get anything built and just scrapping lots instead. It has dented my confidence in my modelling abilities which is very frustrating. Things havent stopped though, spurred on by another test etch through the post.. ...where I got another load of goodies I spent some time today and got a little more done on the Peckett... I finally managed to get a crosshead thingy together and ended up with what you see above. I have only managed to get one side done so far plus I need to tweak the coupling rod cranks as the tolerances between them and the crosshead are somewhat fine! Missy EDIT: Thats not the final colour, its just a bit of blackening to help with the final painting when it gets done. I know it looks a bit tatty right now but its very much work in progress... Edited December 22, 2012 by -missy- 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 22, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) EDIT: Thats not the final colour, its just a bit of blackening to help with the final painting when it gets done. I know it looks a bit tatty right now but its very much work in progress... You know that's actually a really nice weathered effect as it is, if you're looking to do a work weary little engine! I also think you are the last person that should be doubting their modelling abilities! Edit: I had a second go at the base for the Down Inner Home this afternoon. The first one shown above was a little too tall, so I started from scratch and have now done both sides: I've also found that since the photo of the prototype above was taken, the inner post has been raised in height to match the outer. Glad I discovered that before doing the offset heights!! Tom. Edited December 22, 2012 by TomE 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atso Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Missy, I agree with Tom's comments. Your work is inspirational, please don't doubt yourself. Tom, loving what you're doing with those signals. Do you fancy trying your hand at some GNR somersaults next? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2012 Thanks Steve. Think i'll pass on the somersaults This evening I have soldered in place the walkway supports, and soldered up the first lattice. Not shown here but also made up are the balance weight and crank for the base of the post. I need to give a bit more thought to how this one is going to operate as there isn't alot of room on these short posts! Tom. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted December 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) Now I'm able to post again will just say what great stuff this thread is throwing up. Julia, the Peckett looks fantastic, any chance of a shot with the body sat on top so we can get the full effect. Tom, equally that signal looks a cracker. Alan beat me to the comment about the quick sand - it does seem rather vertically challenged! I'm still pursuing my 'get some things finished before starting anything else' campaign, successfully so far - pictures over the next few days. I predict it will last until I pick up my etches from Missy!! Jerry Edited December 23, 2012 by queensquare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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