class37418stag Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi everyone Any diesel loco haul single passenger coach during 1990s while no available DMU ? I am aware to think about buy mk1 gangway with single passenger coach Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Mmmm. I can only think of two coaches and a 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Fun sized HSTs, two locos and two coaches, thats one coach per loco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2012 Fun sized HSTs, two locos and two coaches, thats one coach per loco But Hornby & previously Lima, did that all the time in their sets, so such a model running on a layout, looks like someone has just gone out and purchased such a set & plonked it on the track. Elsewhere there is this photo. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/12283-very-short-hst/ Or this. http://www.therailwaycentre.com/NewSite%20POD%202007/POD09_02_07.jpg Which is of course the Farish version. But for the ultimate but genuine passenger carrying HST. http://www.luxsoft.demon.co.uk/village/hst.html You need a smoke generator though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi Andrew, I remember seeing a pic of a 33/1 on a single NSE MK2. I think it was on the Southampton to Salisbury line, but I am not sure of the service. Cheers Peter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave47549 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) . Edited October 1, 2021 by Dave47549 Removed pointless guff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted December 16, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2012 By the 1990s? Nothing that I am aware of. Go back to the 1960s and the answer is a resounding yes. More than one branch line and rural route saw a single loco and coach at times ranging from Aberystwyth - Carmarthen to The Mound - Dornoch. Most of those were legacies from steam days; some would have added other traffic along the way such as a van or milk tankers. The single coach in question would have been a BCK in all cases where first class was offered, otherwise a BSK, BSO of Mk1 stock or Company equivalent vehicle. In cases where loco-hauled stock replaced a DMU either at short notice or (and especially during the run-down of the first generation DMU fleet) at times of acute stock shortage the formations varied but were generally between 2 and 4 coaches and sometimes with a loco on either end if no run-round facilities remained. The only other occasion I can recall anything similar to a loco-plus-one being used was when an HST had derailed (or failed?) on the Newquay branch and the rear power car was uncoupled and used to transport passengers back to Par on its own. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I think 31's topped and tailed on the Bletchley-Bedford Service and may have done similar on the Gospel Oak-Barking service although can't find video proof. Both these though I suspect two coaches. Also of interest is a 33 on the Barking line as shown in video link below. Slightly off topic I accept. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted December 16, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2012 Fun sized HSTs, two locos and two coaches, thats one coach per loco That will be quick then. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 In the 1980's when I was at school I used to quite frequently get a call from a friend and we would then catch the Sheffield - Leeds stopper. This would happen when the classic DMU had a failure and they would drag it behind a Tinsley freight loco to Leeds in service. Had 20, 25, and other none heat locos on this type of train. Not 1 coach but usually a 2 car DMU + loco. The only sngle coach workings I have seen tended to be loco plus inspection saloon/route learning coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 16, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2012 I know Facebook isn't everyone's cup of tea, but there's a 1980's pic of 37014 at Fort William on this group: https://www.facebook...haulagebashers/ No good if you don't have a Farcebook account Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plarailfan Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 You might find an isolated incident of a loco, hauling just one coach. The best I can come up with is hauling a two car DMU which had failed. DMU sets were a dying breed by the 1990's, with most of the remaining sets centred around Glasgow and Manchester, so "modellers licence" might be rquired for this one ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 The first train I worked as a secondman at Rugby was a class 83 and one SR utility 4 wheel van! Not strictly a passenger train, but parcels to Crewe, with a crew of 3 and 3300hp it must have been quite an economical journey! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave47549 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) . Edited October 1, 2021 by Dave47549 Removed pointless guff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 I know Facebook isn't everyone's cup of tea, but there's a 1980's pic of 37014 at Fort William on this group: https://www.facebook...haulagebashers/ I has tried to access facebook but no link or no name of haulagebasher of facebook group that why I do have facebook and want look the picture of class 37014 thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted December 18, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) there used to be some on the ScR, usually as timetabled 'parcels' trains. e.g. an edinburgh-carstairs used to be loco+BSK or BG and i think there was one dundee-perth or similar Edited December 18, 2012 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan76 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Slightly off-topic, but there was an incident in 1972 where a Sheffield-Huddersfield DMU suffered a partial failure at Sheffield, losing one of the two power cars on a three car set. Staff realised that it would not make the climb to Penistone (at this time the Huddersfield trains still used the Woodhead line to Penistone, rather than today's route via Barnsley). The unit was run to Woodburn Junction and a Class 76 buffered up and banked it to Penistone. It was then able to struggle through the Huddersfield. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Another that springs to mind from the 1970s was the 00 something Northampton to Leicester "parliamentary" train which was usually a BSK and a 45. It only ever ran one way, a bit like the much-discussed Wandsworth Road-Ealing Broadway service of late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South of 1E Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Died in the mid 80's but the 1710 Perth-Arbroath and return Arbroath-Dundee was often load 1 BSK, sometimes load 2. Called at the long lost Errol from memory. Power rather tasty 24/25/26/27's NR www.leightonlogs.org Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2012 Fun sized HSTs, two locos and two coaches, thats one coach per loco Not in passenger use, but single HST power cars used to travel around with a single BSK as barrier vehicle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted December 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2012 Hi Andrew, I remember seeing a pic of a 33/1 on a single NSE MK2. I think it was on the Southampton to Salisbury line, but I am not sure of the service. Cheers Peter. If it was going the other way there would be a fair chance that it would be taking the Eastleigh line at Romsey and then on to the works??? Otherwise it might have travelled up from Eastleigh on its way to Laira (I suspect via Westbury), that was the other coaching stock maintenance base. Either way an attractive train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Hello please excuse my English i has seen photo of class 47461 scotrail hauled single brake coach how many people on seat inside brake coach http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0925010284000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, class37418stag said: Hello please excuse my English i has seen photo of class 47461 scotrail hauled single brake coach how many people on seat inside brake coach http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0925010284000 ive not seen many 1 coach trains in the 1980’s, more than likely this is a stock move such as recovering a failed or repaired vehicle. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) In the 80s the 05.45 Huddersfield - Penistone was once an 08 and a BG, put on by the SM to cover a failed DMU after control refused a bus. It was monumentally late at Penistone but it got the day shift at Naylors to work at Denby Dale. Locos hauling dead DMUs or a scratch set of Mk1s were very common between Sheffield, Leeds and Huddersfield around 1988-90. One of the Castleford reversals was retimed to go direct via Altofts each afternoon to allow those collected at Sheffield during the day to be dragged back to Neville Hill. Edited July 5, 2020 by Wheatley 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted July 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just once A BG got used via the Severn Tunnel with Station seats used - The fan was well and truely hit by Swindon over crash resistance but at least the folk got home. Several times the story goes a BG used Stoke Crewe but that was back in the days of real service! One LMR jaunt that did get a kicking was a Stafford - Crewe IIRC back cab lift for a family that missed a train - nobody would have wiser but an loco inspector met the driver and was aghast to see family disembark, I expect a postcard did not cover his comments... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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