coachmann Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 The concession Gresleys represent the early BR period and would maybe require a little "alteration"before running with the P2. PM Locomotion Models to enquire. Thats true. To be strictly accurate for behind the P2 they would need lining out and LNER insignia added, but then again the Railroad P2's have limited lining. I have been buying my teak coaches from Sandra at Locomotion-NRM Shildon, a great lass. My latest order was placed around noon 22nd December and it arrived this morning 24th Dec at 9am......That's what I call service. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) Just compared the two ex "Rare bird" teaks with the few original R417X series I have. Although the grain is nicely done, better IMHO than the latest early BR releases, the actual colour is several shades darker than the earlier ones. My P2 is getting smoother by the day and the noise level is reducing also. Maybe it will end up a really good runner after all. Keith EDIT clarified shade comparison Edited December 29, 2014 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow_Hawk Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Purchased my "Regular Range" P2 from a main box shifter, and it arrived last week with a few points of damage. The loco's right hand buffer was broken off in the box, and the right hand plastic valve gear was snapped in three places. The engine's brake rods from the detail pack were also snapped in various places. I plan to replace the buffers with sprung types anyway, and I'll contact Hornby about obtaining a new detail pack, but I am fairly disappointed, as I haven't had problems with a Hornby product in a few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Tell Hornby about it and they may well replace the whole engine for you - it must be said that they a re red hot on stuff like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Maroon ones are much cheaper. The last three show I've been two had no teaks, apart from Warley where one stand had some for £60 each They were not there a few hours later! (I didn't buy them!) Keith You weren't looking hard enough. The Locomotion stand at Warley was selling rakes of 5 for £125! They extended this offer to their website a few days ago selling coaches for £25 each Edited January 1, 2015 by sub39h Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgregson1 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I have just received a tts fitted p2 direct from Hornby. The service was fantastic. Unfortunately when the logo is put into reverse, the sound of the brakes releasing happens but then there is just the sound of the loco idling as it moves off. Also when you play some of the sounds it automatically plays a whistle afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2015 The concession Gresleys represent the early BR period and would maybe require a little "alteration"before running with the P2. PM Locomotion Models to enquire. Please note the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2015 You weren't looking hard enough. The Locomotion stand at Warley was selling rakes of 5 for £125! They extended this offer to their website a few days ago selling coaches for £25 each Not LNER period they weren't (unless they were very well hidden!) Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) I have just received a tts fitted p2 direct from Hornby. The service was fantastic. Unfortunately when the logo is put into reverse, the sound of the brakes releasing happens but then there is just the sound of the loco idling as it moves off. Also when you play some of the sounds it automatically plays a whistle afterwards. I was speaking to TIM at Arcadiarail only the other day and he mentioned this TTS fault and advised me that Hornby have given him details 0f a CV which needs changing to a different value to sort out the problem mentioned, unfortunatley i did not note the details as the problem does not affect me personally, but obviously Hornby must be aware so perhaps a call to them may help. If a get a chance I will phone TIM and ask him for the details! Edited January 1, 2015 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) I was speaking to TIM at Arcadiarail only the other day and he mentioned this TTS fault and advised me that Hornby have given him details 0f a CV which needs changing to a different value to sort out the problem mentioned, unfortunatley i did not note the details as the problem does not affect me personally, but obviously Hornby must be aware so perhaps a call to them may help. If a get a chance I will phone TIM and ask him for the details! I have received the following info from Tim At Arcadia this was given to him by Hornby when he reported a problem: Change CV 151 to value 255 and change CV 152 to 1. EDIT WHOOOOOOPS Cvs are 151 & 152 not as originally stated both 152, interpretation error!!!!!!!!! Edited January 2, 2015 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I have received the following info from Tim At Arcadia this was given to him by Hornby when he reported a problem: Change CV 152 to value 255 and change CV 152 to 1. How does this help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2015 How does this help? See robgregson1's post 5 previous to your post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 See robgregson1's post 5 previous to your post. That doesn't explain how changing the same CV to 2 different values fixes the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 That doesn't explain how changing the same CV to 2 different values fixes the problem. Steve edited his post. See below. I have received the following info from Tim At Arcadia this was given to him by Hornby when he reported a problem: Change CV 151 to value 255 and change CV 152 to 1. EDIT WHOOOOOOPS Cvs are 151 & 152 not as originally stated both 152, interpretation error!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgregson1 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 This is all very well. Thank you for your advice. I am new to dcc sound. I have been modelling dcc in n gauge for a number of years. I currently use a Bachmann EZ digital controller. I have no ability to change cv's. Buying a brand new loco for £150, you don't expect to have to start modifying things before you use them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 This is all very well. Thank you for your advice. I am new to dcc sound. I have been modelling dcc in n gauge for a number of years. I currently use a Bachmann EZ digital controller. I have no ability to change cv's. Buying a brand new loco for £150, you don't expect to have to start modifying things before you use them. A bit off topic but relevant re the TTS , the Bachmann E-z is an excellent started system for new users to get a feel for digital control, but as you say very limited by the inability to alter CV values ( except of course loco address and forward reverse direction) I have one here which I keep as a spare or in case I need to test something quickly (in the Kitchen!! !) without going to my main layouts. Hoever re your comment regarding not having to modify anything from new, I personally find that many locos I have purchased both for myself & others do need CV values changing Notably CVs 3 & 4 acceleration & deceleration rates, as often these have been set at values which provide a very rapid accel. and very abrupt deceleration. In fact I have had 2 identical locos which had very different charicteristics when tested straight from the box, only recently I fitted 2 Arnold Hornby Brighton Belles with 6 pin decoders, both decoders new previously unused, the running charicteristics of the 2 Belles were different initially, but this was changed by altering CV values Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgregson1 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I understand it is needed to alter volume, acceleration and deceleration speeds etc to suit the individual users but you would expectations default sounds to work properly straight out of the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgregson1 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I contacted Hornby today about the fault on my loco. I was told by a young lady that the issue was due to the fact I am using a Bachmann EZ command controller. She told me I would have to send my loco (a Hornby product) to Bachman forthcoming to alter the cv's. This totally gobsmacked me. She told me that my controller was not compatible with the tts sound system but she didn't understand when I told her I have a tts sound A4 that works perfectly on the controller. I told her I was not happy and I am now sending the loco back to Hornby for a full refund. I think I will be buying a Bachmann sound class 40 instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 As I think someone mentioned earlier, investment in a more advanced digital system will pay dividends, remember the EZ system is only rated at 1 -Amp most other systems are at least 3-0 Amps or more, ( I have one which is rated at 12 Amps but thats another story!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bywell Burner Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I gave up with my P2 and sent it back to Hornby for repair, the motor was so noisy and the speed kept going up and down and despite running it is as per instructions and changing some CVs as recommended by Hornby it just wasn`t getting any better, Good news they have been on the phone today to say that the Motor was one of a faulty batch they received and they have changed the motor so hopefully when it returns it will run the way you would expect from a Hornby. So fingers crossed ,,,, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w4rrn Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Has anyone seen or heard of a second batch from Hornby yet? I see hattons had some a few weeks ago, but they were all sold on pre orders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I'm really struggling to adjust the volume level on mine. Using JMRI and the SPROG2, I've tried adjusting cv178 to 2 (or anything), this it by default 4. But when I do, the loco becomes unresponsive, requiring a reboot of the sprog2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bywell Burner Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Quick update regarding my P2 TTS, got it back from Hornby last week and to my horror it was just same despite Hornby fitting a new motor, it still Buzzes like a crazy Bee when running so its gone straight back to them but this time I have told them unless they get it running the way you would expect a Hornby to run I don't want it back because this problem has been ongoing since last October. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2015 Quick update regarding my P2 TTS, got it back from Hornby last week and to my horror it was just same despite Hornby fitting a new motor, it still Buzzes like a crazy Bee when running so its gone straight back to them but this time I have told them unless they get it running the way you would expect a Hornby to run I don't want it back because this problem has been ongoing since last October. Can I suggest that you request a brand new replacement from them ? I think that is what should have happened in the first place and the sensible way out of this,surely . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Just gave mine an outing for the first time on my new railway - is it my track laying or is this a dedicated falling off the track machine ? IT seems fine on straight track, and even flexi curves, but it seems to think points were made for falling off from - I have both code 70 and code 100 and it seems not to care which as soon as you ask it to go round a corner, or reverse through the point - regardless of how close the tender is coupled - off she falls. I also haven't put it through anything tighter than a 5' radius. It's even more sensitive than the Bachman Peppercorns! Thanks Edited January 30, 2015 by bigwordsmith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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