'CHARD Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) I was asked a question over the festive period that stumped me a bit, I'll come clean with you, dear reader. Nothing surprising there, but this is a subject reasonably close to my modelling interests and I felt I should've been better prepared. What were the first Class 27s into standard blue, and when? I flicked through my 1968 Combine expecting to see the usual caption suffixed "(in blue livery)" for one, but no. I've a vested interest in that a handful worked over the Waverley in its final season, but for the wider readership of this forum, can we pinpoint the earliest, and was there then a long gap before widespread application by Eastfield, main works; or is it indeed true that none left the LMR in blue? http://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/6262972159/in/set-72157627936919488 Edited January 1, 2013 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted January 1, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2013 'Chard A previous thread on LR based BRCWs http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/42561-leicester-class-27s/ Some blueys in there from Brushveteran, Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Good spot Neil, it's clear from BV's pics that 5373 and 5374 received BFYE whilst still on the Midland. As they're without D-prefix, they'll be Q4/68 repaints earliest. Edited January 1, 2013 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 There were another couple, D5389 in BSYP which was outshopped at the same time as D7660/1 and 5397. D5389 later lost its D prefix before leaving for Scotland. Images attached, although both photographed in Scotland soon after arrival. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 Good to see Railway supporter Andrew Adonis enjoying his time in the chair of 5397 there! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 40-something Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) 5389 Dundee July 70 Slide 1323.jpg5397 Glasgow Queen Street July 70 Slide 1324.jpg There were another couple, D5389 in BSYP which was outshopped at the same time as D7660/1 and 5397. D5389 later lost its D prefix before leaving for Scotland. Images attached, although both photographed in Scotland soon after arrival. Here's my version of 5389.... http://www.rockvillagoods.co.uk/uploads/1/2/3/0/12308250/4035_orig.jpg?0 I started this before Heljan announced it! Not the best photo, makes the loco look too brown for some reason (lighting I guess!) Also shows the areas that need topped up... Edited January 4, 2013 by 40-something 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 There's something about BSYP I really like! Ooh! Stop it! Tempting me, that is! Pröst! John E. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted January 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2013 notice in brushveteran's pic of 5397 that it has yellow window rubbers - would these have been painted or were they actually yellow? don't suppose they'd go to the effort of changing them specially? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2013 One in blue on the Midland and three in green Not all the numbers were noted at the time. David 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Not yet blue but full yellow ends and BR arrows. http://www.flickr.com/photos/96859208@N07/9643833877/ Paul Edited March 5, 2014 by Strathyre 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Not yet blue but full yellow ends and BR arrows. http://www.flickr.com/photos/96859208@N07/9643833877/ Paul Like x 1000. Awesome find!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Thanks 'Chard, have a look through his Flickr site (if you have a spare day or so!), lots of photos of class 50s north of Glasgow (well, 3 or 4 anyway...) plus loads of other cracking shots. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Thanks 'Chard, have a look through his Flickr site (if you have a spare day or so!), lots of photos of class 50s north of Glasgow (well, 3 or 4 anyway...) plus loads of other cracking shots. Paul Will do mate. I suggest you check what's happening on THIS thread over here.... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/55177-carlise-allocated-derby-lightweight-liveries/&do=findComment&comment=1370754 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTTLEY Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 D5406 went the way most 27s did and caught fire in late 1973. Here she is at GWKS....returning to traffic in 1974, in blue and with TOPS numbers. Cheers, Ron. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Grahame are you sure re 5397 getting blue at the same time as 5389? I have it down as June 1969 at Derby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Sorry Russell. I should have inserted a comma after D7660/1. What I was trying to imply was that 5397 was a Derby repaint, the yellow window rubbers giving this away. 5373 and 5374 were treated in much the same way. I've no idea when 5397 was outshopped from Derby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I have 15th June 1969. I have 5373/4/91/7 as wearing this style of blue, with bodyside numbers. All were as far as i know done by Derby around spring 69. Glasgow did them with cabside numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 5389 Dundee 1970 by Grahame Wareham 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: 5389 Dundee 1970 by Grahame Wareham Ummm, as posted in the fourth post in this thread, Jan 1st, 2013...?? It's a shocking indictment of the state locos were allowed to get into back then, though, isn't it? That blue paint job can't have been more than a year or two old when the photo was taken? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2021 20 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: Ummm, as posted in the fourth post in this thread, Jan 1st, 2013...?? It's a shocking indictment of the state locos were allowed to get into back then, though, isn't it? That blue paint job can't have been more than a year or two old when the photo was taken? Paint was at least 3.5 years old at this point, received in Jan ‘67. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 22 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: Ummm, as posted in the fourth post in this thread, Jan 1st, 2013...?? It's a shocking indictment of the state locos were allowed to get into back then, though, isn't it? That blue paint job can't have been more than a year or two old when the photo was taken? Yeah, I know, but this one is better quality, but I was going to comment about how diesel locos actually looked dirtier in the transition period than they did in the blue era when BR seemingly neglected its locos. I guess that was due to the steam locos that were still around messing up BR's new shiny toys. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2021 Was there a particular traffic/use for the LMR 27s which meant they got so filthy? Seems to be more than just normal 'weathering' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 29/06/2021 at 18:39, montyburns56 said: Yeah, I know, but this one is better quality, but I was going to comment about how diesel locos actually looked dirtier in the transition period than they did in the blue era when BR seemingly neglected its locos. I guess that was due to the steam locos that were still around messing up BR's new shiny toys. Glad you noticed the better quality as I have spent a considerable amount of time rescanning some of my earlier images with a new scanner..................obviously worthwhile! The Midland allocated 27's were mainly used as freight engines in pairs and I expect they saw little of carriage washers which helped to keep some of the Cricklewood allocated examples quite smart. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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