RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ramblin Rich said: Nice Siphon G newspaper van. As this is supposed to be a modelling thread, can anyone say if there is a source of the sliding vents on the lower body sides? I have a Lima body and could do the plated uppers but not sure how to do the lower vents. I know Cooper Craft used to have a conversion but not touching them with the proverbial barge pole! Hi Rich Plastic card for the lower vents. Build them closed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Rich Plastic card for the lower vents. Build them closed. Oh Clive !!! Do please remember, this is a modelling forum. Gibbo. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted June 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2020 There's some X shaped bracing on the panels which I'm not sure I could get consistent, plus the guide channels. I'll have to see what could do.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: You know it amazes me that no one has commissioned a model of this type of Syphon as it was one of the last types to stay in use. If I won the lottery this is what I'd get someone to produce. Not quite the same but similar: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Ramblin Rich said: Nice Siphon G newspaper van. As this is supposed to be a modelling thread, can anyone say if there is a source of the sliding vents on the lower body sides? I have a Lima body and could do the plated uppers but not sure how to do the lower vents. I know Cooper Craft used to have a conversion but not touching them with the proverbial barge pole! When building ferry-vans, which have similar vents, I've had some success with two methods. The first is to use very thin Plastic sheet , and 'emboss' from the rear with a biro or similar. The second is to use slightly thicker plastic, and use round Plastruct to make the diagonal bracings. The original etchings were by Blacksmith Models, IIRC; you could always keep an eye on E-bay. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium macgeordie Posted June 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2020 As 26Power mentions above, I have done a kit for the Diagram O.62 Siphon G which is the van in the post above but which has had the upper louvers blanked off. Blanking them off is simple enough as long as the material used is thin, about 5 thou would be fine. Here is a link to that thread. I have a couple of the detailing frets left which have the lower louvers on them but I'm out of stock of the full kit although I can still get them. Ian 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted June 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2020 38 minutes ago, macgeordie said: As 26Power mentions above, I have done a kit for the Diagram O.62 Siphon G which is the van in the post above but which has had the upper louvers blanked off. Blanking them off is simple enough as long as the material used is thin, about 5 thou would be fine. I have a couple of the detailing frets left which have the lower louvers on them but I'm out of stock of the full kit although I can still get them. Ian Any thoughts of selling those detailing frets alone? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium macgeordie Posted June 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2020 Yes, I can supply the detail fret at £6 each plus £1 postage. If you want one please pm me as it's unfair to hijack somebody else's thread. This is a photo of the fret. Ian 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 8 hours ago, macgeordie said: As 26Power mentions above, I have done a kit for the Diagram O.62 Siphon G which is the van in the post above but which has had the upper louvers blanked off. Blanking them off is simple enough as long as the material used is thin, about 5 thou would be fine. Here is a link to that thread. Ian Ah, sorry remember that one now. I just linked to the one that is in your message “footer”. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted June 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2020 This one's actually a test train, but composed of LMS vans and hauled by a newly shopped 50 is worth a view? TESTING TIMES by Bill Watson, on Flickr Bensham Cutting PARCELS DIVERTED VIA LEAMSIDE by Bill Watson, on Flickr SUMMER ON THE G&SWR by Bill Watson, on Flickr Kirkconnel Normanton by Dee Dye, on Flickr 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted June 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Metr0Land said: This one's actually a test train, but composed of LMS vans and hauled by a newly shopped 50 is worth a view? From the info on this thread*, it appears that 50012 is straight out of its refurbishment at Doncaster, so an interesting view even if not a parcels train. The other pictures are a good illustration of how monotonous parcels stock had become by the 80s as pre-nationalisation types disappeared. Also Normanton before it was largely abolished. *I'm continually amused by how frequently Google finds the answer to a railway question on RMweb. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Metr0Land said: Normanton by Dee Dye, on Flickr Wow, I didn't even recognize the location as I'm used to seeing it like this..... 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted June 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Wow, I didn't even recognize the location as I'm used to seeing it like this..... Luxury! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2020 Incredible!! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Reading 1980 With some passenger coaches as well?? 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On models again for a second; can anyone throw light on what these 2 may be and when they were in use? They have end doors CCT style so I'm working on the assumption they could be parcels stock. Ta muchly 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Taz Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2020 They are ex LMS CCT. If they are plastic then they will be Parkside kits. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Taz said: They are ex LMS CCT. If they are plastic then they will be Parkside kits. That would make sense given what else was in that box of old wagons, thank you. Yes they are plastic. Now to see if any made it into rail blue livery... Edit: oops, think we posted at the same time, thanks for the livery info jwealleans. Edited June 23, 2020 by Satan's Goldfish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 What he said. I think both types lasted from the 1930s to BR blue and one of the windowed ones survived in York yard until within the last 2-3 years. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, jwealleans said: What he said. I think both types lasted from the 1930s to BR blue and one of the windowed ones survived in York yard until within the last 2-3 years. The type with the 'top-lights' were built pre-WW2, and seven survived into the late 1960s, so would have finished their careers in dirty crimson livery. The more numerous non-window type were built in batches from 1938 to 1956. The last couple of Lots were built at Swindon. Most made it into Rail Blue, and examples survived in revenue service into the late 1970s. David Larkin's first volume of the three-part 'BR Parcels and Passenger-rated Stock' has a lot of photos. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Fat Controller said: The type with the 'top-lights' were built pre-WW2, and seven survived into the late 1960s, so would have finished their careers in dirty crimson livery. The more numerous non-window type were built in batches from 1938 to 1956. The last couple of Lots were built at Swindon. Most made it into Rail Blue, and examples survived in revenue service into the late 1970s. David Larkin's first volume of the three-part 'BR Parcels and Passenger-rated Stock' has a lot of photos. Funny you should mention that, just doing a quick Google image search the only picture I spotted of a 'top-light' version in blue is a model. Might be a job for rule 1. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) The 1974 RCTS Coaching Stock book has two of the top light version still in service, 35582 and 35587. As the blue livery was applied from 1967 then they may have received it before withdrawal but there were Southern CCTs still in green in 1976. So without a photo (only really to see if the numbers were rail alphabet style) it would be very difficult to say one way or the other. Edit: Just found this after searching LMS CCT in Flickr John Turner on Flickr Edited June 23, 2020 by Flood 10 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Flood said: The 1974 RCTS Coaching Stock book has two of the top light version still in service, 35582 and 35587. As the blue livery was applied from 1967 then they may have received it before withdrawal but there were Southern CCTs still in green in 1976. So without a photo (only really to see if the numbers were rail alphabet style) it would be very difficult to say one way or the other. Edit: Just found this after searching LMS CCT in Flickr John Turner on Flickr That is a find. It looks as though the underframe may be painted in that purple-brown colour that was briefly used for coaching stock and locos in the late 1970s. It seems to have escaped having the panel with vehicle details on the right hand end. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Roger Sunderland Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 I think we are well catered for in 4mm scale for parcels vehicles . The 11 vehicle set I’m currently running is a fairly eclectic mix comprising of. LMS bogie CCT - Lima, rebogied Mk1 CCT - Bachmann/ Invicta LNER BZ 6 w van - Marc models (I think) Thompson matchboard full brake - Coopercraft LMS stove 6w - Comet Hawksworth full brake - Hornby LMS Stanier BG - Bachmann SR BY van - Hornby LNER pidgeon van - Isinglass models Mk1 GUV - Bachmann Gresley full brake - Hornby pics available on request! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 To follow Roger's lead my 4M05 Penzance - Crewe has the following in order: Mk1 BG - Bachmann Mk1 CCT - Lima LNER CCT - Parkside Mk1 CCT - Lima LMS Stanier full brake - Mainline (gangways removed) SR CCT Plywood - Parkside LMS Stanier full brake - Mainline (gangways removed) GW Collett full brake - Phoenix kit (gangways removed) SR PMV - Parkside LMS Stanier full brake - Mainline (gangways removed) Mk1 GUV - Lima (new bogies) LNER CCT - Parkside Mk1 GUV - Lima (new bogies) Plus there are the following awaiting rakes: LMS CCT - Parkside SR CCT alternating planks- Parkside 2 x SR PMV - Parkside (scribed with alternating planks) SR PMV Plywood - Converted Parkside CCT SR BY van - Hornby Hawksworth full brake - Hornby (gangways removed) SR passenger brake - Ratio Gresley full brake - Hornby and these need finishing/making 4 more Mk1 CCT - Lima Another LMS Stanier full brake - Mainline (gangways removed) LNER BZ 6 w van - Macgeordie 4 more Mk1 GUV - Lima (need new bogies) 2 x Siphon G - Lima (plus a few others if needed) GW inside framed Monster - Ian Kirk Numerous Bachmann Mk1 BGs All, apart from the Mk1 BGs, in some form of overall dirty blue! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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