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Odiham, September 1st 1939. The stationmaster and his porter are probably discussing the order to implement air raid and blackout precautions, or perhaps the bright white line the porter has just painted to comply with this. The  Morning goods (the sun is in the East) has arrived and has been shunted by the regular ex-LSWR 700 which awaits departure back to Guildford via Farnham and Tongham with its solitary brake van. The Ruston 48DS, resplendent in its blue livery, belongs to the RAF and will take the wagons into RAF Odiham. Building tensions in Europe resulted in the locomotive's purchase to augment the existing Andrew Barclay 0-4-0ST that had been there since 1937. 

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September 4th, and our intrepid local photographer (or perhaps local spy) is out again. Since electrification of the branch in 1937, before the Southern's vision for a civilian Aerodrome at Odiham was scrapped, the passenger service has been generally formed from one 2-BIL unit, usually the rear portion of an Alton train, divided at Farnham. Sunday, 3rd, saw the introduction of an additional shuttle service from Farnham formed with an ex-LSWR O2 and Guildford's Gate Stock set No.374 to help cope with additional traffic to the RAF base and to the village which, despite its proximity to the RAF establishment, was receiving evacuees from London.

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This shot was also presumably taken during that first week of the Second World War, most likely also on Monday 4th. Contrary to first appearances No.207 has not been shot at (if it were at this stage it would most likely have been 'friendly' fire), the marks simply being scratches on the negative. The film quality, and the light quality, must have been quite good that week given the lack of obvious grain.

 

I may have some colourised photos if anyone would be interested in seeing them.

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13 hours ago, sem34090 said:

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Odiham, September 1st 1939. The stationmaster and his porter are probably discussing the order to implement air raid and blackout precautions, or perhaps the bright white line the porter has just painted to comply with this. The  Morning goods (the sun is in the East) has arrived and has been shunted by the regular ex-LSWR 700 which awaits departure back to Guildford via Farnham and Tongham with its solitary brake van. The Ruston 48DS, resplendent in its blue livery, belongs to the RAF and will take the wagons into RAF Odiham. Building tensions in Europe resulted in the locomotive's purchase to augment the existing Andrew Barclay 0-4-0ST that had been there since 1937. 

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September 4th, and our intrepid local photographer (or perhaps local spy) is out again. Since electrification of the branch in 1937, before the Southern's vision for a civilian Aerodrome at Odiham was scrapped, the passenger service has been generally formed from one 2-BIL unit, usually the rear portion of an Alton train, divided at Farnham. Sunday, 3rd, saw the introduction of an additional shuttle service from Farnham formed with an ex-LSWR O2 and Guildford's Gate Stock set No.374 to help cope with additional traffic to the RAF base and to the village which, despite its proximity to the RAF establishment, was receiving evacuees from London.

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This shot was also presumably taken during that first week of the Second World War, most likely also on Monday 4th. Contrary to first appearances No.207 has not been shot at (if it were at this stage it would most likely have been 'friendly' fire), the marks simply being scratches on the negative. The film quality, and the light quality, must have been quite good that week given the lack of obvious grain.

 

I may have some colourised photos if anyone would be interested in seeing them.

Lovely.  But the RAF’s driver has let the tension get to him on the 1st, as he’s well past the trap point and fouling the Southern’s loop; of course, the signalman should never have allowed him to trespass in this way. 

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Such are the woes of a small layout -

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The RAF sidings will form a separate extension. 

 

Also, my get-out clause is that the signalbox has been temporarily decommissioned prior to major works to expand the length of the station and a complete resignalling to allow greater flexibility. The old LSWR starter has been decommissioned already (there is a white cross on the arm and a handsignalman below) and I am working on the principle that for the duration of the work the section from Crondall to the junction for RAF Odiham sidings is to be worked by a the usual EKT arrangement with pilotman working between there and the station, the points being manually held by plugs and clips.

 

The idea there is that upon arriving at the 'sidings' 'box, the end of the EKT section, the goods was sent forward to the station by the pilotman, completed its shunting before ringing through to confirm that the line was clear for the shunter. The pilotman travels with the shunter the very short distance to the station, before sending it back once it's collected the wagons. The pilotman will then return to the sidings 'box with the 700 once the 'box has rung through to say that the Ruston is clear of the branch.

 

Of course, this goes little way towards explaining the gaff besides the alleged temporary lack of interlocking and signalman

 

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And the confusion and uncertainty of the period may go some way to explaining, but of course not excusing, the rostering of an inexperienced conscript RAF driver, and his encroach on the civilian world...

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14 hours ago, Porkscratching said:

^^..Now that's what i call a a nice trolley/barrow..!

If only t'were mine! It does, in fact, belong to the Mid Hants Railway.

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Beautiful! Despite what my own layout represents, I find a well-modelled post-war cityscape much more appealing than a generic rural terminus (like Odiham...).

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15 hours ago, 43110andyb said:

Another visit to the yard to photograph some TTA tanks,  5th February 1987, a cold morning captures -

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Hi 43110andyb

 

Very nicely Weathered indeed...

 

Jamie

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5 hours ago, vitalspark said:

Posted a few comparison pics on the Exhibitions page as Alloa due to be at the SEC in Glasgow in a couple of weeks .

Possibly already listed some of these but as they are to hand.

 

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Hi vitalspark

 

Very Nice and in 0-Gauge is it...!?!

If that's is 0-Gauge, when length is the layout, it as to be at least 3 foot to the bridge then... wow

 

Regards

Jamie

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2 hours ago, 7APT7 said:

 

Hi vitalspark

 

Very Nice and in 0-Gauge is it...!?!

If that's is 0-Gauge, when length is the layout, it as to be at least 3 foot to the bridge then... wow

 

Regards

Jamie

 

Well, we have been asked once whether it was P4 and several times if it is EM but that is a first for O gauge, pleased to say it is good old OO!

 

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7 minutes ago, ScRSG said:

 

Well, we have been asked once whether it was P4 and several times if it is EM but that is a first for O gauge, pleased to say it is good old OO!

 

 

Hi ScRSG

 

oh because I was going to say, the length of a layout just from what I could see in the Photos, would have to be like the size of Peter Waterman's layout in 0-Gauge, lol even so, still a great few photos.  Am I write in saying the track work as been made to... just the cross over angle and the approach to and from it ain't your normal by standard purchase I thought. but very nice indeed, even better if it is...Quality

 

Regards

Jamie

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8 hours ago, vitalspark said:

Posted a few comparison pics on the Exhibitions page as Alloa due to be at the SEC in Glasgow in a couple of weeks .

Possibly already listed some of these but as they are to hand.

 

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Sigh... modelling 101... don't you know that the bus/van is never just "on the bridge" when the train goes by ;)

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1 hour ago, Nova Scotian said:

Sigh... modelling 101... don't you know that the bus/van is never just "on the bridge" when the train goes by ;)

In this case yes it is as the BR  Morris van is parked in the station yard just as the original pic.

We do have a bus on the bridge though at the other end and very nice it is too with slight weathering and a slightly sloping platform!

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2 hours ago, 7APT7 said:

 

 

 

oh because I was going to say, the length of a layout just from what I could see in the Photos, would have to be like the size of Peter Waterman's layout in 0-Gauge, lol even so, still a great few photos.  Am I write in saying the track work as been made to... just the cross over angle and the approach to and from it ain't your normal by standard purchase I thought. but very nice indeed, even better if it is...Quality

 

Regards

Jamie

 

Thank you for your kind comments Jamie.

The layout is 34ft long and operates on a continuous run with end on fiddles feeding trains to the front on both the mainline and branch.

There is pretty well always something moving which of course is totally unprototypical..but the public pay their money to see trains moving not static exhibits.

Everything on the layout is accurate for the location and period and run at scale speeds with many of the locos by necessity being kit built like the WD 2-10-0s and many NB and Caley 0-6-0s.

Diesels are represented mainly by the DMUs and railbuses that operated on this line from early 60s although the odd Clayton makes an appearance plus a Metrovick Co-Bo on a filling in turn on minerals.

The track is SMP with all pointwork hand built as again it needs to be to accurately follow the actual trackplan.

All signals are accurate and built from photographs and all operate and are used throughout the running.

When we were at Warley we received the Signalling Society award for best and most accurately signalled layout..a great surprise to all of us.

As said we have often been asked if its EM which is indeed a compliment although unlike ScRSG I have never heard of someone confusing it with P4..the track is nowhere near that standard although for a large fairly complex layout that has to be reliable on the exhibition circuit that would be a step too far I'm sure.

I attach a pic of the layout at NEC at Warley on the evening before the show opened.

It was a great weekend and topped off with Alloa awarded best visiting layout with Pete W doing the honours.

Thanks again.

Dave.

   

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