Arthur Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Whilst looking for something else I came across these images today, too late to help Neil unfortunately but they may be of interest to anybody else embarking on a water tower. They''re from a South Durham Iron & Steel Company book circa 1938. South Durham had an integrated works at Hartlepool and were major producers of steel plate and steel plate products. They had a tank manufacturing plant on site and offered an erection service if required. The tanks were made up from hot pressed steel plate, bolted together, and were advertised as not needing skilled labour to assemble. Panels were available either 4' x 4' or 1 metre x 1 metre, in various gauges. This one is of 28,000 gallon capacity and must be assembled from the 4' panels to hold that volume. 28,000 gallons weighs about 125 tons, the panels adding around 8 tons, depending on gauge. Heavy sections support the floor of the tank but the supporting structure looks surprisingly light. An interior view showing the strengthening stays. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKG Steve Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Interesting Arthur - there's a 4 page article in the April edition of 'Australian Model Railway Magazine' in which the author is modelling a New South Wales Government Railways 30,000 gallon tank, complete with internal bracing even more complex than that shown in your photo Obviously constructing highly detailed water tanks is in vogue at the moment! Steve 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted April 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 5, 2013 Great find Arthur, particularly the interior shot showing all the bracing and brackets - not something you'd get when full of water! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 (edited) Worth noting that this one is on steel supports, some, particularly older ones, could be on cast iron columns which would be much heavier in section. Edited April 5, 2013 by Arthur 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 A thing of beauty indeed. I've enjoyed watching this build. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Cook Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 ps- when you say 2 droppers per each section of rail - do you mean two sets? Its two droppers per each section of rail, a length of track with two rails would have four droppers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Cook Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 If you do drill through a cavity then poke a straw down the hole into the void. Wiggle it around until you find the hidden hole and push the straw into that hole too. Next thread the wire through the straw. Lastly, just pull the straw out. Voila - easily threaded wire through a void. Kev. Having done many, many years as an electrical engineer, thats one method I can say I have never used. It does have its limits though, lenght of void, outer diameter of conductor and diameter of drilled hole, and the availability of straws when theres no young persons in the household Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted April 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2013 Having done many, many years as an electrical engineer, that's one method I can say I have never used. It does have its limits though, length of void, outer diameter of conductor and diameter of drilled hole, and the availability of straws when there's no young persons in the household Method used many times here. The outer casing from an old (or even a new) Bic ball-point pen is more rigid than a straw and often more readily available. They are a snug fit in a 5/16" (8mm) hole. Two or more can be glued together with poly cement if necessary for long holes. Martin. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Method used many times here. The outer casing from an old (or even a new) Bic ball-point pen is more rigid than a straw and often more readily available. They are a snug fit in a 5/16" (8mm) hole. Two or more can be glued together with poly cement if necessary for long holes. Martin. Useful tips, all. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted April 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2013 Having done many, many years as an electrical engineer, thats one method I can say I have never used. It does have its limits though, lenght of void, outer diameter of conductor and diameter of drilled hole, and the availability of straws when theres no young persons in the household Ah, I see your problem. Where as I have a 5 yr old, who is drawn to straws stronger than a moth to a flame. Availability of straws in our household is not a problem, but as Martin indicates any tube will do. Kev. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2013 Its two droppers per each section of rail, a length of track with two rails would have four droppers Belt, braces and skyhook mentality - exactly what is needed for an exhibition layout that will be forever assembled and disassembled, and not a bad idea for home use, either! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2013 Andy, Will these be of any use : Ref : F194, on http://www.langleymodels.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_OO_Scale_Accessories_F172_to_F219___NEW_Items__18.html Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Good find Stu; I think I might just go for that. I'm sure the Chainmakers' Arms may have a telly in the bar too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2013 Oh, and apologies for the blatent copy of your cottages !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted April 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2013 (edited) Belt, braces and skyhook mentality - exactly what is needed for an exhibition layout that will be forever assembled and disassembled, and not a bad idea for home use, either! And if using plastic chaired construction, don't forget the droppers on the check rails. If a model wheel rubs a check rail, it can be lifted fractionally off the running rail, losing pick-up if the check rail is dead. (And just to pre-empt the replies every time I mention this -- I did say model. I know it doesn't happen on the prototype with much heavier wheel loadings.) Martin. Edited April 5, 2013 by martin_wynne 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dseagull Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Having done many, many years as an electrical engineer, thats one method I can say I have never used. It does have its limits though, lenght of void, outer diameter of conductor and diameter of drilled hole, and the availability of straws when theres no young persons in the household About 25p for a packet of 50 in Tesco.... (other supermarkets are available). I've used straws as runs for wire (bent paperclip..!) in tube points on my latest, and also wiring runs beneath the baseboard. I think Iain Rice recommended it in his Realistic Layout Design book a couple of years back too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Very nice on the houses Andy! ATB Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted April 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2013 My rolling stock efforts between Doncaster and Ally Pally shows were limited to fitting AJ couplings to locos and the ends on rakes. I didn't get as many done as I would have liked, but was able to get a few more done during the weekend of Ally Pally show. Since then, spare time has main been used up on a project to convert my shed to a workshop, but I've recently manged to have a look at some Tube wagons for our 7G05 Corby - Wolverhampton or Oldbury tubes as we work towards filling the gaps in our fleet to better reflect the Working Timetable (which can be found here), perfect job for my recently converted Peak. I had constructed three Parkside bodies some time ago, I've now made a start on adding running gear. In common with my other recent kit builds, I've used Bill Bedford spring units. Correct wheelbase and alignment of the axles was acheived using the Brassmasters axle spacing gauge. I'll now thin down the backs of the axleguards and fit the solebar/axleguard mouldings from the kit, before moving on to brake gear and buffers. I've not forgotten that I'd promised to add some details on forming and fitting AJ couplings - will try to add this here soon. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 7, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 7, 2013 BTW Mark, test etch for Bobol E underpinnings arriving soon, will keep you informed. Mike. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted April 7, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2013 BTW Mark, test etch for Bobol E underpinnings arriving soon, will keep you informed. Mike. Nice. Look forward to seeing that! Meanwhile, I've made little more progress on the tubes 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Just caught up with this thread. I'd just like to add my congratulations to you Jason, on such a brilliant job. As a newcomer to scratchbulding, I take great inspiration from your work. Fantastic. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Following last night's discussion on railings for the industrial viaduct here's a couple of photos of the viaduct that used to lead to Castle Meads Power Station in Gloucester. This was an industrial branch off a GWR branch and, as suggested, it's angle iron and tube construction. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 11, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2013 Are those posts 'angle' or 'square' ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Angle Stubby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 11, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2013 Ta, I might need to make some fencing like that myself... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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