RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 9, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2013 Rust? I think it's called Indian Red They haven't said what's first but I suspect the a Southern and L&B liveries will all be covered. I prefer the Southern but may have to have one of each for the transition period as the L&B coach livery is beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Price point, to use a modern idiom, is flexible. In the US Bachmann DCC equiped On30 locos are priced on the Bachmann web site at $300+ , but available from an ebay official dealer for less than half, and auctioned for even less. All brand new in original boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Given the little Minitrains 0-4-0s are just over £100 each r.r.p., £185 for a bigger loco with more than twice as many wheels, outside frames and valve gear doesn't look so bad! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Bathurst Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Hi I have a had a look through and aint seen when this is due or any shops advertising this loco yet. Can anyone point me in the right direction (I am new to the gauge) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It is hoped it will be available by Christmas 2014, if not slightly earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Footplate of Kidderminster have them on their website: http://www.footplate.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=100_101&products_id=1375 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I see they've got a date for it being in stock - 28th February 2014. Perhaps a little ambitious/optimistic/foolhardy/naive (delete as you think applicable)! Anyone care to place a bet on that date? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
invercloy Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Heljan kindly provided the details to the 009 Society for display at the Convention, which I pulled together into the display along with the CAD images. They mentioned that the the price is APPROXIMATE, but all other mentions of price have been in the same ballpark. £185 seems perfectly reasonable to me when you consider that a Backwoods Miniatures kit (which is the most comparable in terms of quality based on the details Heljan have provided to date) costs £92 and that requires lots of soldering of bodywork and chassis and lots of time invested in it before you get it to run, let along paint, details etc. It's a bold venture by Heljan, and from the details provided so far they seem to be heading in a very good direction in my opinion. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Re the Price £185 is very acceptable no doubt there will be discounting, As mentioned above by PaulRhb, there are lots of NG locos out there, some around 3 times the proposed Heljan RRP, Theres a BEMO Saxon Meyer in a retailer in Lancashire ( saxon Meyer 0-4-4-0T articulated loco) its around £500.00 beuatiful model but the line has had to be drawn somewhere!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 They are up on Antics for pre-order at £189.95 each http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/2451_1.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Hattons announce their price £146.00 quite reasonable when you compare that a ROCO H0e 0-8-0 will set you back £250.00 ish 3 variants listed as well so that will set me back £438 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Anyone got any more news on this project? Not to putt too fine a point on it but i want one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cnw6847 Posted June 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2014 If I remember correctly they are due out some time next year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 If I remember correctly they are due out some time next year I beleive some retialers quoting QTR 4 2014 Some good prices offered also lowest so far £146. See also my other post re PECO 00-9/H0e setrack.!! re info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Latest edition of Hornby magazine confirms that the engines are not expected until 2015, will had 6pin DCC sockets and that Yeo Exe and Taw are to be produced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 . Any detail on which livery each will be in ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Not that I could see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 In the News section of the December Railway Modeller there is a bit about the livery sheets for the waddles. They show No 1361 Yeo in L&B livery (9950), and No 760 Exe (9951) and No 761 Taw (9952) in Southern Railway olive green livery. Delivery is still expected in 2015 but no date is suggested. I suspect a little more information well be available at Warley in a fortnight. There are a couple of images accompanying the article, but I suspect there would be copywrite issues if I were to post them on here! Cheers J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Not my scale or scene, but it is sure good to see someone else are making a move into RTR narrow gauge, the other being Bachmann with their Baldwin in 009. However to give you guys some idea as to the minimum numbers that have to be manufactured in order to get a decent turn around for their investment. I was told by Precision Scale about the number of MMI models they needed was 5000 units and they needed to achieve a certain number of pre-orders before they started cutting metal. They failed to achieve enough pre-orders to go into production with the C-21 and the other D&RGW models announced to be viable concerns and the MMI division was shut down. The same could happen here if Heljan or Bachmann fail to see a sizeable number of pre-orders. So if you want one or two, stop speculating and put your money where your mouth is or it won't happen. Loconuts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcampbell Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 That seems a little negative. The fact that we are still getting updates from Heljan 18 months after the project was first announced suggests they have invested a lot already, and are unlikely to back out at this stage. In addition PECO have announced more products in 009, so their initial venture with the L&B stock must be paying off nicely - and that's before there's an RTR loco to go with them! And Bachmann are planning to enter the 009 market. As for minimum production runs, Minitrains are clearly thriving with new HOe (and 009-ish) models but I doubt their production runs are near 5000. Several SG models have been released in recent years with (initial at least) production runs much smaller than that. Modern CAD/CAM manufacture of the moulds seem to make viable quantities way below what they where even 10 years ago. I'm not sure that Heljan are even taking pre-orders, though retailers are advertising them. Anyway I'm sure Heljan have done their homework and will know it's a viable venture without having to threaten customers with having to pre-order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted November 10, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2014 Ixion have made it pay with their On30 'Coffee-Pot' based on an obscure Australian prototype where I understand the production run was 1000 followed by 1500 Hudswell Clarkes which have almost all gone and a re run in a different delivery is on its way. Perhaps Heljan (and Peco) are hoping to cash in on visitors to Woody Bay in the way that 'Coffee-Pot' sales were boosted by the fact that one is preserved and some sales were to tourists - but then again the same could be said for the K Class MMI locos - perhaps they were just too big and too expensive. I remember Paul Martin (EDM) saying that the recession hit the USA harder than the UK and many proposed developments from a number of manufacturers never happened. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 mjcampbell comments that he does not know if Heljan are taking pre-orders. I can confirm that Heljan are already accepting advance orders from retailers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I suppose 009 is a bit more affordable than 0-16.5 but I'm a little surprised that Bachmann has not introduced a more internationally used or adaptable steam loco into the On30 range, like the Baldwin - I'm sure it would sell quite well. Yes, there are scale and gauge compromises but so are there in many popular scale/gauge combinations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Ixion have made it pay with their On30 'Coffee-Pot' based on an obscure Australian prototype where I understand the production run was 1000 followed by 1500 Hudswell Clarkes which have almost all gone and a re run in a different delivery is on its way. Perhaps Heljan (and Peco) are hoping to cash in on visitors to Woody Bay in the way that 'Coffee-Pot' sales were boosted by the fact that one is preserved and some sales were to tourists - but then again the same could be said for the K Class MMI locos - perhaps they were just too big and too expensive. I remember Paul Martin (EDM) saying that the recession hit the USA harder than the UK and many proposed developments from a number of manufacturers never happened. . Hi Mike I agree with your comments to a degree, however I did not consider the MMI K class locos too expensive. The quality was superb and having worked in 7mm SG the price was no different than a Martin Finney kit, yet these came built and painted. Also the MMI models came from South Korea and used lost wax castings which Precision Scale had the patterns for. I don't consider them too big, they are no longer than a SG 4-4-0 in 7mm scale. The recession hit the model market really hard in the States after 2008 and still affecting them. I have two PSC vestibule coaches on order, they have been on order for 7 years and I don't expect to see them in my lifetime. It is about time we had some British RTR so good luck to the ventures, but manufacturers please don't forget there are a lot of 7mm Narrow Gauge modelers out there. Loconuts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Does anyone have any idea of the ratio of 009 modellers versus 7mm ng modellers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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